CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Fann Linn · 31-03-2020 05:34PM

Just Saying wrote: »

Interestingly the DEASP on their website now say the Covid-19 payment is for the "duration of the crisis"..I am nearly sure it said 12 weeks the last time I looked...

So is the crisis, this 2 week lock down, the 12 weeks as previously advertised, or as long as this problem occurs?

cnocbui · 31-03-2020 05:34PM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

The mortality rate for Hubei Province (Including Wuhan) is currently at 4.7%.

I don't believe the Chinese figures either way...

The UK governments science advisors, probably a cover for Intelligence sources, believe the Chinese have probably under reported their figures which may be as much as 40 times worse. Basing anything on China's figures is an absolute waste of time.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 31-03-2020 05:35PM

scamalert wrote: »

if theres no positive results in 2 weeks time, think curtain will drop and people will take their chances, i get some enjoy this kumba ya isolation forever no work no worries attitude, but realistically if 2 weeks dont give enough leverage whats the point in keeping going same route, social distancing and some ppe seems about as effective. Doubt any government in the world will say sure lock it down till there's cure found, stupid and pointless all together. even if there was no cases someone immune could spread it and in theory this could go on for years.

Well numbers of new cases seem to have fallen in Italy and they are around 3 weeks of lockdown now. Obviously they need to stay locked down for a while longer.

Why do you say 2 weeks?

mean gene · 31-03-2020 05:35PM

chasm wrote: »

Info and form here:

https://www.anpost.com/Coronavirus/Social-Welfare

Cheers for that

iwillyeah1234 · 31-03-2020 05:35PM

Messaging from U.K. news media is still confusing and muddled. ITV news just stated that 28 of the U.K. deaths “had no underlying conditions”

This doesn’t make any sense - how come some healthy people recover and others die?

Anyone got a more sensible explanation for this?

Fann Linn · 31-03-2020 05:35PM

threeball wrote: »

So Paddy Cosgrove was posting sh1te on twitter. No nurses have died from Covid19 here. Dipstick.

Didn't the IT report a nurse dying last week?

mouldybiscuits · 31-03-2020 05:35PM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

Mortality rate in Italy is now 11.7%.

I'm sure the vast majority of people who are mildly sick aren't getting diagnosed because of the massive strain on the health system. The mortality rate certainly isn't going to be accurate in this case.

Kermit.de.frog · 31-03-2020 05:35PM

threeball wrote: »

So Paddy Cosgrove was posting sh1te on twitter. No nurses have died from Covid19 here. Dipstick.

He has really made a tit of himself these last couple of weeks on Twitter.

Hard to believe he was kind of looked up to before this.

Just Saying · 31-03-2020 05:37PM

Ethereal Cereal wrote: »

ooh, interesting. It definitely did say 12 weeks before...

Says 12 weeks on Citizensinformation.ie which you would imagine is slower to update

threeball · 31-03-2020 05:37PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Didn't the IT report a nurse dying last week?

Hse said no nurses have died. Cosgrove said more than one had died.

Kermit.de.frog · 31-03-2020 05:37PM

cnocbui wrote: »

The UK governments scicience advisors, probably a cover for Intelligence sources, believe the Chinese have probably under reported their figures which may be as much as 40 times worse. Basing anything on China's figures is an absolute waste of time.

Apparently, from midnight tonight they are going to be releasing daily figures for asymptomatic cases (following growing anger from abroad).

This should be be very telling...

mouldybiscuits · 31-03-2020 05:38PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Messaging from U.K. news media is still confusing and muddled. ITV news just stated that 28 of the U.K. deaths “had no underlying conditions”

This doesn’t make any sense - how come some healthy people recover and others die?

Anyone got a more sensible explanation for this?

Everyone reacts differently to infection. Some healthy people die from all kinds of illnesses that other healthy people recover from.

irishlad. · 31-03-2020 05:38PM

Department briefing moved to 7.30

I repeat, 7.30!

cosanostra · 31-03-2020 05:38PM

threeball wrote: »

So Paddy Cosgrove was posting sh1te on twitter. No nurses have died from Covid19 here. Dipstick.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-healthcare-worker-in-republic-dies-after-contracting-virus-1.4213892

threeball · 31-03-2020 05:39PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

He has really made a tit of himself these last couple of weeks on Twitter.

Hard to believe he was kind of looked up to before this.

Hes used the crisis for self promotion and talking about his rich mates from what ive seen.

JP Liz V1 · 31-03-2020 05:39PM

mean gene wrote: »

Me old man is over 70 and wants to get his pension Friday is there some waiver form we can get to keep him indoors.

Cheers for any info

He would have got 2 weeks last Friday

Be right back · 31-03-2020 05:39PM

threeball wrote: »

Hse said no nurses have died. Cosgrove said more than one had died.

He said 4 had died.

hotmail.com · 31-03-2020 05:39PM

irishlad. wrote: »

Department briefing moved to 7.30

I repeat, 7.30!

What time?

Kermit.de.frog · 31-03-2020 05:39PM

France

7,578 new cases

499 new deaths

Worst day yet for France by some distance.

iwillyeah1234 · 31-03-2020 05:39PM

cnocbui wrote: »

The UK governments scicience advisors, probably a cover for Intelligence sources, believe the Chinese have probably under reported their figures which may be as much as 40 times worse. Basing anything on China's figures is an absolute waste of time.

You can take it as a given that a “U.K. government scientist” has a certain degree of interaction with their intelligence services, if not actually being a part of it.

It’s the same Stateside - NSA/CIA/DARPA are crammed with “government scientists” doing intelligence led research.

kowloon · 31-03-2020 05:40PM

scamalert wrote: »

if theres no positive results in 2 weeks time, think curtain will drop and people will take their chances, i get some enjoy this kumba ya isolation forever no work no worries attitude, but realistically if 2 weeks dont give enough leverage whats the point in keeping going same route, social distancing and some ppe seems about as effective. Doubt any government in the world will say sure lock it down till there's cure found, stupid and pointless all together. even if there was no cases someone immune could spread it and in theory this could go on for years.

There's the problem. There will still be mounting fatalities in two weeks time, the restrictions are only going to reduce that rate, not stop it. People who don't understand that, or who just don't want to stay at home, are going to claim that any level of infection proves that the restrictions haven't worked.

New Home · 31-03-2020 05:40PM

cosanostra wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-healthcare-worker-in-republic-dies-after-contracting-virus-1.4213892

Just as I thought --> healthcare worker =/= nurse. Not much different, but different enough not to make a liar our of the HSE.

hotmail.com · 31-03-2020 05:40PM

cosanostra wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-healthcare-worker-in-republic-dies-after-contracting-virus-1.4213892

Didn't Leo say a nurse had died in one of his speeches?

statesaver · 31-03-2020 05:41PM

cosanostra wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-healthcare-worker-in-republic-dies-after-contracting-virus-1.4213892

The standard of journalism in this country is appalling.

cosanostra · 31-03-2020 05:41PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Didn't Leo say a nurse had died in one of his speeches?

Yep

BLIZZARD7 · 31-03-2020 05:42PM

mouldybiscuits wrote: »

I'm sure the vast majority of people who are mildly sick aren't getting diagnosed because of the massive strain on the health system. The mortality rate certainly isn't going to be accurate in this case.

Yeah I don't think the mortality rate will come in close to that in the end but it is still increasing.

I think the ~1% figures are conservative and possibly only achievable in a developed country with low rate of infection. The mortality appears to sky rocket when healthcare systems get overwhelmed.

But yes we have no idea how many people are truly infected until we see widespread community testing.

ceadaoin. · 31-03-2020 05:42PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Messaging from U.K. news media is still confusing and muddled. ITV news just stated that 28 of the U.K. deaths “had no underlying conditions”

This doesn’t make any sense - how come some healthy people recover and others die?

Anyone got a more sensible explanation for this?

theres always going to be statistical outliers who truly are healthy and who will die, and obviously the more infections increase the more of these will happen. Thats why I dont get why some young people are being so cavalier about becoming infected. You dont know that you wont be one of the unlucky ones. I certainly wouldnt want to take the chance.

Also at least one of the "no underlying conditions" people that I saw was obese. I think being overweight is definitely a risk factor for more severe outcomes.

31-03-2020 05:43PM

antodeco wrote: »

Its really scary if 133 ICU patients mean we are under severe pressure...

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

103 in ICU as of yesterday in ROI according to Virgin Media News and that some private hospitals have already been treating public patients

Accumulated since the start, media misreporting.

These are not the numbers currently in ICU, the hse only reports accumulated numbers.

cnocbui · 31-03-2020 05:43PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Apparently, from midnight tonight they are going to be releasing daily figures for asymptomatic cases (following growing anger from abroad).

This should be be very telling...

Not quite the same thing as stating that , well actually, to be perfectly frank, 132,000 people died in Wuhan.

FVP3 · 31-03-2020 05:43PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

France

7,578 new cases

499 new deaths

Worst day yet for France by some distance.

You have a fetish for the bad news. Did you post their 2,600 new cases a few days ago, a major drop?

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