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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #6992
    Cartel Mike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Cartel Mike


    Home test kits or kits that can prove that people had it and are now part of a herd immunity need to be gotton and distributed.
    How to organise this ? Idont know

    People who have recovered need to get back to work soon. Theres no point in the supermarkets being open if no-one has money to buy even the basics.


  • #6993
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Sky news now reporting on social unrest in southern Italy. Supermarkets raided for food...

    889 new deaths in Italy.

    Dear god it just gets worse


  • #6994
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,062 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    From their window sills.

    They are eating their cat's? :eek:


  • #6995
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Whatever about America, and lord knows they can be at best problematic at times, China is only friends with China and this has been the case throughout their history and culture. Their insularity is legendary. There is China and there is the rest of the world, the "foreign". The xenophobia and upfront racism within Chinese society would leave most Europeans aghast. Never mind that the government operates a totalitarian state, one near the top of the world charts in that category.

    I am reading a history of China right now. Not really getting that. Insular yes, feeling superior to the rest of the world, yes but in the sense of not really caring to find out. Japan had that until the mid 19th C.

    All cultures have some of that. It beats invading everywhere to impose capitalism christianity democracy.

    Their society was hierarchical but not more so, and often more meritocratic than, the West. They've had an imperial exam system for 1000 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_examination

    Confucianism is a system of government which, while accepting the hierarchy of the elites over the poor ( like everywhere), also depends sacrifice from the rich. Western oligarchies could learn from that.


  • #6996
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    Dear god it just gets worse

    Actually slightly better than yesterday.


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  • #6997
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Nesta99 wrote: »
    I am not saying that people shouldnt wear masks, what I am concerned about is that people who wouldnt be familiar with the additional care that is needed to truly mitigate against the spread could actually increase risk. I also feel that mixed messages, officially or via fora like this also is a potential issue tbh. So with that in mind I offer guided opinion and would not claim absolute fact on any of this.
    Interesting post.

    The impression I get from the WHO and others is that they are arguing against mask wearing for the public at the moment because of the severe worldwide shortage of PPE. A half-arsed attempt to wear a mask by a member of the public is one less mask that a trained healthcare professional could do with. They're in a difficult place.

    Once mask production ramps up worldwide, I wouldn't be surprised to see the advice change, and the public be told to wear masks - primarily to reduce the risk from those who have the disease and are unaware.


  • #6998
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    overkill602 wrote: »
    Just watch contagion OMG even the bat was the source
    Then flicked on to the governor of new york thought i was still watching the movie
    That guy is cool, calm and so connected president material,but democrats prefer deadbeat presidential candidates

    apparently it was a pangolin

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #6999
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Does anyone have a recording of, or link to, Simon Harris's briefing today?

    He was excellent in conveying the message to those who are still not fully complying/who are zoning out due to stress/whingeing about first-world problems, e.g. a number of my relatives:)


  • #7000
    dePeatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    Risteard81 wrote: »
    Unfortunately anyone who points out these immutable facts here is a pariah.
    So you just don't get the fact that the hospitals will be swamped unless we shutdown? Jesus wept...


  • #7001
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    cosanostra wrote: »
    "You stay at home unless you really cant work from home" Simon Harris seems to imply that the likes of factory workers will be exempt workers

    That quote applies to essential workers in the various categories mentioned - health, transport etc. Even if you are listed essential - try and work from home.

    It does not imply that factory workers in general will be exempt - factories are going to close, but there may be some that will be prescribed as essential.


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  • #7002
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    FVP3 wrote: »
    It wouldn't spread as much as they would get to herd immunity without serious effects.

    You are insisting on making my point for me, which is that Africa's younger ( and perhaps fitter) population will mean that Covid won't be as big a threat. Obviously there are other conditions over there ( ebola and TB) which would mean that getting this on top of those would be a problem, but in general Africa as a whole will do ok.

    Herd immunity is a theory. It's efficacy is disputed.

    Ebola killed about 11,000 people in western Africa, almost 50% of the total people who contracted it... How do you work out that Covid19 will not be a threat when it is far more infectious... and prays on people with poor health?? (Many Africans have very poor health)


  • #7003
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    Does anyone have a recording of, or link to, Simon Harris's briefing today?

    He was excellent in conveying the message to those who are still not fully complying/who are zoning out due to stress/whingeing about first-world problems, e.g. a number of my relatives:)

    think this is it
    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1243941104287993856?s=20


  • #7004
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    And in the US Trump looks like delivering again - a quarantine

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52079121


  • #7005
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Nesta99 wrote: »
    I am not saying that people shouldnt wear masks, what I am concerned about is that people who wouldnt be familiar with the additional care that is needed to truly mitigate against the spread could actually increase risk.
    +1 I've noticed a few people, not many, but a few people wearing masks and like the doc in the other thread so far I've only seen one person wearing one correctly.
    During the H1N1 episode all frontline NHS staff were fitted with respirator type masks and given a supply of filters. Occupational health had us wear the masks, put 'canopy' over our head and pumped really obnoxious smelling gas in to the free space - if you got a whiff of anything then the mask was refitted.
    If when fitted you didn't smell anything they were masks that also had an activated charcoal layer(very similar to military gas masks). They have a finite use as they saturate.
    Evidence based research has shown that they dont make a sinificant difference to most patients in the clinical enviornment in terms of reducing post-op infection.
    True, but evidence based research has also shown they do mitigate risks for spreading pathogens for both those who are already infected and those who don't want to be. Post op infection is a different setup. I can dig up any number of research that demonstrates this, but I don't want to drag us down the masks topic. Again.
    When you see people wearing masks that are for dust particulate like those used on construction sites its is apparent that people dont rally understand the appropriate use in terms of preventing microorganism spread.
    Actually it's the PP3 rated particulate HEPA filters, a type you can find in construction and industrial uses, that are precisely the type required against viruses etc. Specifically medical versions are pretty much identical(though some run a further UV sterilisation stage). Funny enough they're not much use at stopping the spread of infection from an already infected person wearing one as the exhaled air is unfiltered.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #7006
    zvone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭zvone


    FVP3 wrote: »
    All Europeans who suppose the Orange man are clearly deranged. Europe needs to leave NATO ( who also done nothing although MASH hospitals, medics, and sterilising equipment exist in the US barracks) and ally with our new friends in China.

    There is no friends in politics and economy. Just interest.


  • #7007
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Italian death toll passes 10,000. ( Euronews alert)


  • #7008
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Sky news now reporting on social unrest in southern Italy. Supermarkets raided for food...

    889 new deaths in Italy.

    Just my opinion, but can't help but notice both the English and American midia are using bad news from other countries in regards to the outbreak to deflect from there own problems


  • #7009
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    is_that_so wrote: »
    And in the US Trump looks like delivering again - a quarantine

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52079121

    It'll be a beautiful quarantine.


  • #7010
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    apparently it was a pangolin

    A pangolin who was bitten by a bat, I believe. The genome of the virus is very similar to one of the bat choronaviruses.

    The pangolin, it's flesh and scales, are used in traditional Chinese medicine.


  • #7011
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    spookwoman wrote: »
    think this is it
    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1243941104287993856?s=20

    Brilliant. Thank you spookwoman!

    I think we can assume that most of us on this thread are doing the right thing. But it's the others that we need to get through to.


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  • #7012
    loughside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭loughside


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    What device are you using to post here with?


    A PC, why do you ask?


  • #7013
    outsourced_ire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭outsourced_ire


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    It'll be a beautiful quarantine.

    A quarantine like no one has ever seen before.


  • #7014
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    outsourced_ire wrote: »
    A quarantine like no one has ever seen before.

    He's going to build a wall around it


  • #7015
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    Brilliant. Thank you spookwoman!

    I think we can assume that most of us on this thread are doing the right thing. But it's the others that we need to get through to.

    It’s also being streamed live on the RTE News channel on YouTube.

    https://youtu.be/elGZwuwMGsI


  • #7016
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    smurf492 wrote: »
    Still no sign of the essential business list?

    Well my employer just sent me a message, business as usual. We make medical devices that are only used in elective procedures which have been cancelled in Europe, and apparently are due to be cancelled in the USA...but apparently they have our safety in mind


  • #7017
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    ZX7R wrote: »
    He's going to build a wall around it

    Which New York is going to pay for.


  • #7018
    Nesta99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    Mullaghteelin wrote: »
    Germany havnt been counting deaths like other countries, they record patients as dying from underlying health difficulties rather than counting it as a Coronavirus death. Their official death count is too low.


    This is a 'tactic' that has been used by health services for years. Deaths were and are recorded as simply pneumonia or multi-organ failure rather than multi-organ failue as a complication of sepsis for example. And this usually happens when the initial and treatable systemic infection has been missed.

    In the past it played down cases involving resistant strains of bacteria and before that HIV/AIDS to minimise public concern. A tad off topic but If Germany are doing similar in a 'nothing to see here' effort its scandalous!

    As hard as it might be for people to believe, the balance between preparing the Irish nation for this pandemic, not cause outright panic but not show complacency has been very good. As I alluded to much earlier in the thread other national services are weeks behind the curve!!


  • #7019
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    God but people are just arseholes. Bunch of selfish pricks beside where I live fishing, 2 cars just gone down in the last few minutes, multiple people in the car and now having a chat in the car park. It's amazing how many people think rules don't apply to them


  • #7020
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Just my opinion, but can't help but notice both the English and American midia are using bad news from other countries in regards to the outbreak to deflect from there own problems

    You mean the media have their targets and punchbags?

    I was going to make a sarcastic joke but, I now realise, the majority of people don't even realise that. They'll breathe in anything that's printed


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  • #7021
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,794 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    delaad wrote: »
    This is all a bit like waiting for the French at Killala:)
    Hope it ends better than that

    It's at about 38000 ft over eastern Russia I think. Due to land in just over 2 hours


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