CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

ZX7R · 28-03-2020 03:25PM

For the person asking about check pints out side the city,
I brought my eight year old special needs for his daily buggy ride, there was a check point Wich for anyone else is in the middle of nowhere in regards to civilisation ,a know rat run of a road for drink driving also would have been use during the foot and mouth outbreak for transportation of horses.
They were stopping all traffic that came along.
Asked me where I lived and we're happy to let me on my way.

BattleCorp · 28-03-2020 03:25PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Forest Avenue open for business again today for their up your own arse posh farmers market. Queue around the corner, absolutely disgraceful.

You'd think people could forgo their purple carrots for the sake of others.

Places that sell food are allowed to open. They should have social distancing measures though.

joe40 · 28-03-2020 03:25PM

boardise wrote: »

'When did we turn into such a pack of pussies?'

My answer to that plaintive question is -when the PC ideology came to town
and became entrenched in the education system It is embedded in University faculties -especially Sociology and Education. They indoctrinate the teachers who pass it on to primary and secondary pupils ...(like a virus ,if you will). Pupils are told that they can't fail at anything ,everything is dumbed down, if you cut your finger you probably need counselling etc.
Believe me ,I've seen it up close as I spent my career as a lecturer and I've seen how iniquitous it is in its cumulative effects .
We're stuck with it for the foreseeable future although there are signs that there is some kickback against its worst excesses.

P.S.A nice recent example was the decision to award a blanket 100% to LC students in their oral exams -there doesn't seem to be a limit to the lunacies of PC.

That was a government decision, (all adults)nothing to do with the students. How was it PC lunacy?

Al this ****e about PC gone mad is nonsense. Ivan Yates is constantly banging the same drum, and a few weeks ago all he was worried about was if Cheltenham would be cancelled. But yeah the young people are snowflakes..

stephenjmcd · 28-03-2020 03:25PM

Curious_Case wrote: »

Is that for roadside breakdowns though?

NCT failures aren't often emergencies

Nope local garage near me has a number you ring and they'll come out and look at your issue. Still means you dont leave the house.

Now they cant do major work, but anything that's a quick fix can be done

otnomart · 28-03-2020 03:26PM

otnomart wrote: »

A few days ago, the Irish Gov co-signed a letter to European Council calling for "coronabonds", together with other 8 Countries including France, Belgium and Luxembourg.
However, the Netherlands together with Germany are the most fiercely opposed to this.
Germany will likely change position, but the Dutch Gov is digging its heels.

https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/nine-member-states-ask-for-eurobonds-to-face-coronavirus-crisis/

https://www.ft.com/content/258308f6-...f-41bea055720b
https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2020/...e-coronabonds/

Five more Countries join Ireland, France... in calling for coronabonds: the three Baltics, Slovakia and Cyprus.
It is a total of 14 Countries now pushing for this.
On the other side: Netherlands, Austria and Germany.
Surely Germany can change their position in the face of this crisis.

is_that_so · 28-03-2020 03:26PM

loughside wrote: »

not wanting to be the purveyor of bad news but this didnt go to well for the Czech or the Spanish.
https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/china-delivered-faulty-coronavirus-test-kits-to-spain-czech-republic-120032800056_1.html

hopefully they work but these stories are typical of the cheap chinese tat we see.

I don't think we are getting any quick tests. From what they have been saying they'll stick with what they are using for now.

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 03:27PM

Looks like some old fella arrested on O'Connell St, taken away in a van (street cam)

cnocbui · 28-03-2020 03:27PM

statesaver wrote: »

Well, they can feck right off

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1243617774922076167

Are they recommending marijuana instead?

walshb · 28-03-2020 03:27PM

walshb wrote: »

Are the over 70s included with the rest of us as regards the 2 k radius, unless they need to shop?

Or are over 70s advised you be cocooned completely?

Can anyone answer this, please?

28-03-2020 03:28PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Since 5 or so months ago:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/health/vaping-illnesses.html

That's like taking methanol poisoning in bootleg alcohol and using it to describe the effects of alcohol.

khalessi · 28-03-2020 03:30PM

walshb wrote: »

Can anyone answer this, please?

They are advised to cocoon for their health they can choose not to. if they choose to they are subject to same 2km bar shopping as everyone else, just more susceptible to covid19 if they come in contact with it.

Deeper Blue · 28-03-2020 03:30PM

https://twitter.com/wlrfm/status/1243862334453547011?s=20

Didn't even take one ****ing day

BattleCorp · 28-03-2020 03:31PM

walshb wrote: »

Can anyone answer this, please?

If you are over 70 you are advised to coccoon. That doesn't mean that you stay in your house and starve if you have no food. If you need to go out and get food or medicine or fuel, then you go out and get food, medicine and fuel. If you can get someone to bring it to you instead without having to leave your house, then all the better.

The 2km thing applies to people exercising, it doesn't apply to people going for essential supplies.

shesty · 28-03-2020 03:31PM

jams100 wrote: »

Sky news done a great report on what you were saying about economics taking over at some point. They were also quite glim saying something along the lines of 66% of people infected with covid-19 would've died in the short term anyway, (what short term actually means I dont know). Those figures were for Britain and from the NHS from what I gathered

Yeah, I mean to a certain degree they may have been backing up the Tory policy in that.But listening to Varadkar last night, it obvious that decisions were being made by the medical people and that they appear to operating off a very definite model and a set of numbers.
But we don't know the timeline of their model-and I imagine it is adjusted with new numbers each day anyway-I suppose the point I am making is that if the timeline starts to look to be based on many months, the government will start weighing their decisions in the balance more and more.

For what it's worth,I don't think this will go on for months and months, but if advisors start pointing more and more to a model with a very elongated timeline, I think other factors will start to weigh heavier and influence Gov decisions.That's all.

Murple · 28-03-2020 03:31PM

walshb wrote: »

Can anyone answer this, please?

Over 70s are advised not to leave their houses for any reason and to restrict those they come in contact with. They are advised to have food and medications left at the door and only essential people should have contact with them to provide basic care needs

Ger Roe · 28-03-2020 03:31PM

Xertz wrote: »

Well I would assume the argument is that it keeps dangerous vehicles off the road and as a result of so doing that reduces the number of car crashes, which reduces the pressure on the HSE, emergency services and the Gardai.

I'm not saying that I'd necessarily agree entirely with keeping it open, but there is a certain logic.

Things like tyre changes and so on are also still possible.

I would imagine the NCT is rather low risk anyway, given that it is carried out in a very socially distanced way normally anyway, as long as people don't congregate in waiting rooms.

There needs to be some joined up thinking on car maintenance ASAP though as we're hugely dependent on cars in this crisis. They're effectively a bubble of biosecurity to get people around.

In my non expert opinion, the risk is having a non family unit person sitting in your car and having a go at the controls. Also for the tester - having to sit in a conveyor belt of cars driven by people outside of his family unit - who knows the health of whomever drove it to the centre - what if they coughed all over the dash on the way in?

If I was a tester, I would jack the job in now, in the interests of maintaining the health and safety of my family. If I was due a test, I would refuse to attend, for the same reason.

MrMusician18 · 28-03-2020 03:32PM

maxpowers wrote: »

Ridiculous that these centres are open for business. Just cancel them for a few months ffs.

They can use the time to fix all the lifts if they haven't done so.

WhiteMemento9 · 28-03-2020 03:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SindyLJoyce/status/1243643740394328064?s=19

This makes perfect sense. They live in enviroments that probably make social isolation much more difficult. Large amounts are probably not adhering to the any of the rules. It is going to be hugely difficult to enforce. They are as a result a very high risk group for an outbreak cluster. This will cause huge pressure on the health system. Why not cut it out at source and make sure they are tested before the problem starts.

I know this raises all sorts of other questions but in this situation it is the practical and prudent thing to do. Well done to the government for this foresight and for making what will be seen as an unpopualar decision.

Raconteuse · 28-03-2020 03:32PM

joe40 wrote: »

That was a government decision, (all adults)nothing to do with the students. How was it PC lunacy?

Al this ****e about PC gone mad is nonsense. Ivan Yates is constantly banging the same drum, and a few weeks ago all he was worried about was if Cheltenham would be cancelled. But yeah the young people are snowflakes..

Can't stand him. Awful broadcaster imo.

And what a gobshyte for saying restrictions due to this devastating virus are political correctness, lol.

delaad · 28-03-2020 03:32PM

castletownman wrote: »

There is was a traveller in a local supermarket earlier at the deli letting his chap run around the aisles, brushing off customers etc.

Funny enough that happens with settled people too.

loughside · 28-03-2020 03:32PM

loughside wrote: »

not wanting to be the purveyor of bad news but this didnt go to well for the Czech or the Spanish.
https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/china-delivered-faulty-coronavirus-test-kits-to-spain-czech-republic-120032800056_1.html

hopefully they work but these stories are typical of the cheap chinese tat we see.

couple of more links...and did the Irish gov. get test samples before they ordered??

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/china-supplied-faulty-coronavirus-test-kits-to-spain-czech-republic/

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/coronavirus-turkey-faulty-chinese-kits-not-use

shesty · 28-03-2020 03:32PM

otnomart wrote: »

Five more Countries join Ireland, France... in calling for coronabonds: the three Baltics, Slovakia and Cyprus.
It is a total of 14 Countries now pushing for this.
On the other side: Netherlands, Austria and Germany.
Surely Germany can change their position in the face of this crisis.

Very interesting.

ZX7R · 28-03-2020 03:32PM

walshb wrote: »

Can anyone answer this, please?

I believe they are to cocoon altogether if at all possible.

cloudatlas · 28-03-2020 03:34PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Forest Avenue open for business again today for their up your own arse posh farmers market. Queue around the corner, absolutely disgraceful.

You'd think people could forgo their purple carrots for the sake of others.

It all depends whether people were social distancing in the queue, the other part of it is just your own snobbishness against folks who like fresh produce.

1800_Ladladlad · 28-03-2020 03:34PM

Positivity

https://twitter.com/DarylDust/status/1243532551219826690

niallo27 · 28-03-2020 03:35PM

joe40 wrote: »

That was a government decision, (all adults)nothing to do with the students. How was it PC lunacy?

Al this ****e about PC gone mad is nonsense. Ivan Yates is constantly banging the same drum, and a few weeks ago all he was worried about was if Cheltenham would be cancelled. But yeah the young people are snowflakes..

What about the older vulnerable generation who wont stay in and have seen it all. What will we call them.

shesty · 28-03-2020 03:35PM

Doesn't make for a good headline, ya see!!!

Roger_007 · 28-03-2020 03:36PM

Curious_Case wrote: »

Woah there!

Might I suggest that whether the lockdown is justified or not depends on what it's intended to achieve.

Let's see how a "softly, softly" approach works for Sweden.

It will be very educational, when this pandemic abates, and when statistical data is analysed, to compare the different approaches taken by different countries and see what difference it made in the end.
It’s impossible to know at this stage which countries are handling the crisis better or worse than others. In the case of Sweden, they do not seem to be doing much different than countries which have adopted a different approach. It could be that the only way to stop this is the Chinese way - complete lockdown from the start.
Time will tell.

loughside · 28-03-2020 03:36PM

loughside wrote: »

couple of more links...and did the Irish gov. get test samples before they ordered??

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/china-supplied-faulty-coronavirus-test-kits-to-spain-czech-republic/

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/coronavirus-turkey-faulty-chinese-kits-not-use

In view of the incredibly high error rate of the kits, Spain-- one of the worst-hit by Covid-19, with deaths surpassing over 4,800-- has announced that it is sending back the first batch of Covid-19 testing kits that it received from China.

Jim_Hodge · 28-03-2020 03:37PM

walshb wrote: »

Can anyone answer this, please?

Over 70s should be cocooned completely.

The Government has said all those who are over 70 or who are extremely medically vulnerable should "cocoon" for the next two weeks. But what does that actually mean?
Essentially, people in these two categories should not leave their homes at all.
If you are in these categories you should not even go to the shops and you should not leave your home or garden to exercise.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03