CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

Westernyelp · 28-03-2020 01:55PM

completedit wrote:

How do you know Iâ€™m heartless. Humanity does act as if death wonâ€™t come to us all. And thatâ€™s what Has stood out to me from all of this. Doesnâ€™t mean it isnâ€™t sad or tragic or that ai want people to die

If this virus just affected people like you. I could get on board with your theory.

ChikiChiki · 28-03-2020 01:55PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Genuine question.
Family of 4, we want to go on a walk within 2km of the house for some brief exercise together. Are we allowed?

It's fine in principal if you adhere to social distancing measures and go somewhere quiet.

But the patriot in me says no don't do it because it will only encourage others to be outdoors in groups.

The more disciplined we are as a whole, the sooner we will be out of this. So it's a no from me.

Actually, if you can split the group out on separate walks that would be better.

Steer55 · 28-03-2020 01:56PM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/28/south-africa-police-rubber-bullets-shoppers-covid-19-lockdown

You would want to be starving there before risking going out :ðŸ˜±ðŸ˜±ðŸ˜±

WhiteMemento9 · 28-03-2020 01:56PM

walshb wrote: »

Are Sweden operating normally? Schools open n all?

Light restrictions which means schools, gyms etc remain open, this is a good article covering what is going on with them.

Humberto Salazar · 28-03-2020 01:56PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

We could always take the South African approach:

"South African police enforcing a coronavirus lockdown have fired rubber bullets towards hundreds of shoppers queueing outside a supermarket in Johannesburg, an AFP photographer has said."

Guardian blog

I always smile when I hear about rubber bullets. Sounds quite innocent, like they're using Nerf guns on the crowd, but in actual fact they are dangerous.

Away With The Fairies · 28-03-2020 01:57PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Jim calling CONSPIRACY!

https://twitter.com/Jimcorrsays/status/1243622117289136128

It's the calm before the storm.

jams100 · 28-03-2020 01:58PM

How long do people think this is going to last?
I can't see these restrictions being lifted after 2 weeks, my guess is 3-4 weeks.
Also what happens in lets say a month where it's under control to an extent and then reoccurs when restrictions are lifted?
Realistically how long can we go on like this?
Please no smart answers such as, 'as long as it takes'

28-03-2020 01:59PM

Where I am there is a father and 3 kids out on the road playing soccer for the last 2 hours, now not sure if that's allowed or not, but the ball has already went into my garden twice and been going into other gardens where there is elderly people. Surely isolation and stay at home means only leave your property for necessity.

Just trying to figure out the boundaries here, dont know is it the soccer ball or the bloody father that's shouting like hes a UEFA badged coach that starting to wreck my head

cj maxx · 28-03-2020 01:59PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Just going on what Leo said maybe adults stay separate and walk with 1 kid each. Presuming it is two adults and two children in your family.

I was of the opinion it's stay 2m away from people NOT in your family. No point staying 2m from your wife/kids outside then putting them to bed etc and jumping into bed with your wife at home. Maybe even getting REAL close to the Mrs

Inquitus · 28-03-2020 02:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

How did they approach you, as a matter of interest? Did they say not to open your window or were they 2m back from you?

They waved me down at a narrow point, and stood 2m back and askd me "What is the purpose of your drive this morning, please Sir?"

Inquitus · 28-03-2020 02:02PM

jams100 wrote: »

How long do people think this is going to last?
I can't see these restrictions being lifted after 2 weeks, my guess is 3-4 weeks.
Also what happens in lets say a month where it's under control to an extent and then reoccurs when restrictions are lifted?
Realistically how long can we go on like this?
Please no smart answers such as, 'as long as it takes'

At least 4 weeks imho, but best to say 2 and continue renewing rather than say 4 now, gives people some hope I guess.

facehugger99 · 28-03-2020 02:02PM

I was up at our local food market this morning and even though there were still a good few over-70's, flouting the cocooning advice while pottering around buying their organic fruit and veg, I could tell they were grateful that we had agreed to flush our economy down the toilet for them.

893bet · 28-03-2020 02:03PM

jams100 wrote: »

How long do people think this is going to last?
I can't see these restrictions being lifted after 2 weeks, my guess is 3-4 weeks.
Also what happens in lets say a month where it's under control to an extent and then reoccurs when restrictions are lifted?
Realistically how long can we go on like this?
Please no smart answers such as, 'as long as it takes'

No one knows. That’s the high and low of it. Deal with it week by week. Day by day. Enjoy the time at home with family as best you can and pray to what ever god or person or object you want that the rest of your family/friends stay safe.

El Weirdo · 28-03-2020 02:03PM

otnomart wrote: »

That's great, but it is one only plant, isn't it ?

Think about all the factories still in the UK.
Factories have been redeployed to produce goods that are useful in this epidemic.

In France, perfume factories are now producing disinfectants; in Italy, textile factories are now producing hospital gowns and face marks.

If you don't have many factories on your home soil, you can not redeploy them.

Several distilleries have started to produce hand sanitiser, iirc.

niallo27 · 28-03-2020 02:04PM

jams100 wrote: »

How long do people think this is going to last?
I can't see these restrictions being lifted after 2 weeks, my guess is 3-4 weeks.
Also what happens in lets say a month where it's under control to an extent and then reoccurs when restrictions are lifted?
Realistically how long can we go on like this?
Please no smart answers such as, 'as long as it takes'

Impossible to answer really. It really is. I'd like to see 4 weeks of this and then maybe open back up done retail.

celticWario · 28-03-2020 02:05PM

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

Light restrictions which means schools, gyms etc remain open, this is a good article covering what is going on with them.

I though the Herd Immunity strategy was flawed?

wadacrack · 28-03-2020 02:06PM

jams100 wrote: »

How long do people think this is going to last?
I can't see these restrictions being lifted after 2 weeks, my guess is 3-4 weeks.
Also what happens in lets say a month where it's under control to an extent and then reoccurs when restrictions are lifted?
Realistically how long can we go on like this?
Please no smart answers such as, 'as long as it takes'

6-8 weeks I would say

Crybabygeeks · 28-03-2020 02:06PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

I was up at our local food market this morning and even though there were still a good few over-70's, flouting the cocooning advice while pottering around buying their organic fruit and veg, I could tell they were grateful that we had agreed to flush our economy down the toilet for them.

This isn't fair. Yes, that cohort may statistically have the worst potential outcomes but we're also doing this to protect our front line workers, our vulnerable children and young adults and adults, pregnant women... Each other. This virus doesn't discriminate, we've heard and seen that in countless countries.

In general, no one is happy with this but it's here. Let's get on with it, and see how to fix the economic mess when we still have a functioning society with minimal traumatised families and healthcare workers.

c.p.w.g.w · 28-03-2020 02:09PM

otnomart wrote: »

That's great, but it is one only plant, isn't it ?

Think about all the factories still in the UK.
Factories have been redeployed to produce goods that are useful in this epidemic.

In France, perfume factories are now producing disinfectants; in Italy, textile factories are now producing hospital gowns and face marks.

If you don't have many factories on your home soil, you can not redeploy them.

O'Neill's in Tyrone are now making scrubs

Some Distilleries are making disinfectant in Ireland too

shesty · 28-03-2020 02:09PM

I think at some point economic and politics (mainly with a focus on people's sanity and ability to pay bills) will start to overtake the medical, in driving the decision making.The State cannot fund everyone to sit at home forever, and I know people say we will borrow....which we can to a point...but that cannot go on longterm.It will have to paid back, and people in this country have taken enough in the last 10 years in that sense.

The one big thing I sincerely hope comes out of all of this, is a serious conversation and an acceptance by all of us, that we must change our health system, and that we must pay more in tax in order to fund it.It has to become a huge priority, almost the no.1 priority, intensively for the short term future.

otnomart · 28-03-2020 02:10PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Such an agreement would be reciprocal, not one way.

We are already creating more ICU beds and I don't think we should be left on the hook of potentially having to import NHS patients.

Well, what I was trying to say is that it would be good for Ireland to have a neighbouring Country (and one with undoubtely more resources such as the UK) that could help by taking some patients when the ICUs in Ireland are full.
I personally found uplifting that Germany did that with France, and I do not doubt that the UK would help Ireland.

I now see that most people here think that Ireland can do perfectly fine in this epidemic with its own resources and with no outside help whatsoever.

For the sake of Irish patients, I do hope that the Irish Gov does not think along these lines and is ready to ask for any outside help as needed.

jams100 · 28-03-2020 02:10PM

893bet wrote: »

No one knows. That’s the high and low of it. Deal with it week by week. Day by day. Enjoy the time at home with family as best you can and pray to what ever god or person or object you want that the rest of your family/friends stay safe.

Think our family will kill each other after 2 weeks

bush · 28-03-2020 02:10PM

jams100 wrote: »

How long do people think this is going to last?
I can't see these restrictions being lifted after 2 weeks, my guess is 3-4 weeks.
Also what happens in lets say a month where it's under control to an extent and then reoccurs when restrictions are lifted?
Realistically how long can we go on like this?
Please no smart answers such as, 'as long as it takes'

I'd presume the restrictions will go up and down for months

niallo27 · 28-03-2020 02:11PM

Crybabygeeks wrote: »

This isn't fair. Yes, that cohort may statistically have the worst potential outcomes but we're also doing this to protect our front line workers, our vulnerable children and young adults and adults, pregnant women... Each other. This virus doesn't discriminate, we've heard and seen that in countless countries.

In general, no one is happy with this but it's here. Let's get on with it, and see how to fix the economic mess when we still have a functioning society with minimal traumatised families and healthcare workers.

Why do people keep saying this, children and young adults even pregnant women are not vulnerable. Of course there are a few outliers but for the vast vast vast majority it does discriminate against the older generation.

Heckler · 28-03-2020 02:11PM

Is Jim Coor the biggest troll I've ever seen or is he really that bat**** loony ?

pjohnson · 28-03-2020 02:12PM

shesty wrote: »

I think at some point economic and politics (mainly with a focus on people's sanity and ability to pay bills) will start to overtake the medical, in driving the decision making.The State cannot fund everyone to sit at home forever, and I know people say we will borrow....which we can to a point...but that cannot go on longterm.It will have to paid back, and people in this country have taken enough in the last 10 years in that sense.

The one big thing I sincerely hope comes out of all of this, is a serious conversation and an acceptance by all of us, that we must change our health system, and that we must pay more in tax in order to fund it.It has to become a huge priority, almost the no.1 priority, intensively for the short term future.

You can take this and apply it to 100+ countries in the world. Money will have to just be printed. No one in any situation to give a "loan" every country is going to be i debt looking for money.

Phoebas · 28-03-2020 02:12PM

otnomart wrote: »

Well, what I was trying to say is that it would be good for Ireland to have a neighbouring Country (and one with undoubtely more resources such as the UK) that could help by taking some patients when the ICUs in Ireland are full.

I can't imagine that there are any countries anywhere that have spare ICU capacity.

Phoebas · 28-03-2020 02:13PM

Heckler wrote: »

Is Jim Coor the biggest troll I've ever seen or is he really that bat**** loony ?

bat**** loony

jackboy · 28-03-2020 02:13PM

Heckler wrote: »

Is Jim Coor the biggest troll I've ever seen or is he really that bat**** loony ?

He really believes this stuff. Check out his Twitter, highly entertaining.

YFlyer · 28-03-2020 02:13PM

There is close to two weeks lag minimum between getting infected and verified that you're positive.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03