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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #6152
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    CptMackey wrote: »
    They should have had the list sorted before the lockdown. But sure the civil service doesn't work weekends. So to hell those that do

    Ill tell you this, the CS are working weekends and some of them are working while self isolating due to symptoms. As I am watching one of them fielding calls all day and into the night.


  • #6153
    Kerry25x
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Kerry25x


    shocksy wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1243853921308872705?s=19

    Italy never reported daily cases this high despite the higher population. This is truly awful for them.


  • #6154
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    CptMackey wrote: »
    They should have had the list sorted before the lockdown. But sure the civil service doesn't work weekends. So to hell those that do

    Some departments working 24/7 now. Show a bit of appreciation.


  • #6155
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    This is for those out there who still don't get the message:

    .


  • #6156
    TheDenialTwist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭TheDenialTwist


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Yes I feel this is a new disease and even people with no symptoms can have long term affects that we don’t know about.

    You 'feel' this is new? This Virus being novel is more than a feeling (pardon the pun) . It actually is a novel variant of Coronavirus. It is SARS-CoV-2 (Covid-19). Named so after the SARS outbreak witnessed in 2003, and this is the second variant but proving to be so much more easily transmitted and sustained than 2003.

    All we know is that thus far (as this is novel virus, novel research and so forth) is that 80% (majority of people) seem to show mild symptoms (HSE)

    As for long term 'effects' (not affects) in asymptomatic individuals, we won't know this until much further into the future. As it is impossible to tell long term effects of anything when we are presently only in the short term. I am not worried about long term effects right now as there is nothing we can do About the long term without knowing more.

    Over half of transmission is now Community Transmission and I hope the new measures will aid the spread within the Community. Initially most transmission was Travel related. We're all on a learning curve here. So hopefully these new measures put in place last night will drive home the message to people to stay the fcuk at home etc and adhere to HSE guidelines.

    On a personal level, I know I would want to be in the 80 percentile group if I should end up testing positive and not another statistic on the number of deaths.

    I'm not an expert and I just hope that more and more testing gets completed. The more we test, the more cases, more herd immunity (possibly) the more we start learning about this novel virus, and sadly also more deaths.

    Stay safe to you and everyone.


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  • #6157
    CptMackey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭CptMackey


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    Some departments working 24/7 now. Show a bit of appreciation.

    So they could have had a list done


  • #6158
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/ireland/leinster/dublin/dublin-o-connell-street.html
    Still a fair few people around town, was expecting a complete ghost town like those drone views of cities on the continent


  • #6159
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    Good lord. Spain has joined the Italians

    +832 deaths being reported.

    Once ICUs and hospitals get overwhelmed and reach capacity the death rate soars.


  • #6160
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    They are screwed financially because of this - they are asking for support to stay afloat. Don't know where they are supposed to get the money from for free news. NYT is incomparable. Plenty of free media still here. The indo isn't the whole media.
    If they are looking for support do it like the guardian and actually ask for support. We are advised to get our information from the government and main stream media. That leaves rte, local and national radio stations and the print media. The latter all charge to read the information so it means that we are left with people clicking on shoddy stories on Facebook as their source of information.


  • #6161
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    CptMackey wrote: »
    So they could have had a list done

    There's probably a few higher priorities.


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  • #6162
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/ireland/leinster/dublin/dublin-o-connell-street.html
    Still a fair few people around town, was expecting a complete ghost town like those drone views of cities on the continent

    Watched 20 seconds of that and observed people walking by each other literally touching shoulders.

    Sigh.


  • #6163
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    CptMackey wrote: »
    So they could have had a list done

    Christ almighty. They received advice yesterday to shut the country down. Would you have preferred they waited while they drew up the list and still have hordes of eejits roaming the countryside today? Just to satisfy a few gob****es with no common sense on the internet?


  • #6164
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    Good lord. Spain has joined the Italians

    +832 deaths being reported.
    New data has been added to Worldometer. Including the date of each country's first case confirmation.

    When Italy and Spain were at the point in time that we are at now (about four weeks since the first confirmed case) they had a fraction of the deaths in this country.

    I'm actually sick with worry now.


  • #6165
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    statesaver wrote: »
    Has anyone in the media asked Dr. Tony Holohan why so many health care professionals are getting infected ?

    Seen a stat last week half of them was due to travel


  • #6166
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,204 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    jam83 wrote: »
    I don't understand how outlets that sell DIY goods and motor factors, tyre fitters are closed. Surely a car issue or burst pipe at home needs fixing straight away.

    OH works in a Builder's Providers.
    They had all the safety measures in place.
    2 in the shop at a time, sanitizer and gloves available, 2m marked out for queuing outside/tils, people with accounts told to phone in order and collect - drive into the yard jobby.

    And what happens? People notice the gates to the yard are open to allow collection so they start to go into the shop via the warehouse. For a browse...or to order new bathroom suites.. :rolleyes:
    Staff working were being put at risk because half the bloody country decided this was the ideal time to tackle those DIY projects, and some of those people decided they didn't want to queue or stick to the restrictions.

    Hardware shops are now emergency/delivery above is the reason why.


  • #6167
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    CptMackey wrote: »
    So they could have had a list done

    It has to with suppliers who supply the suppliers who supply the manufacturers and so on. Also they want to do it properly lest anyone bitch about it, perish the thought, and that they only have necessary people making journeys


  • #6168
    Achasanai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The reaction is not surprising as people adjust. Like the first panic run it'll settle down after a few days once we get used to it.


    Exactly. Although we're due a 'big' shop, we're waiting until the end part of the week with the hope that any panic buying will have died down by then.


  • #6169
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Nermal wrote: »
    Could the mouth-breathers get a separate thread to shout ‘stay at home’ repeatedly to one another in?

    You've been banging on about this non-stop for weeks.
    Nermal wrote:
    No point in seriously damaging our economy for what will only be very marginal gains in safety. Life is risk.

    I've been a little bit shocked by how many self-centered people there are in this country. People who don't feel we are in this together. People who are only interested in their personal comforts and don't give a damn how many people have to die to service them.

    Italy is finally starting to curb its death rate.

    h2i8h2v3z8p41.jpg

    'A waste of time', I can imagine you saying, 'Sure they should have kept on the way they were going, but just euthanize those who are brought into hospital. The economy would be saved, and decent people would not be inconvenienced'

    This was the attitude that led to Covid-19 becoming a pandemic in the first place. Can't cut off travel with China, that would damage the economy.

    Call people who say that the curve should be flattened 'panic-mongers' say that people who listen to the government and health professionals are 'mouth-breathers', say that the possibility of long-term damage to health due to the coronavirus is just bull****.
    Nermal wrote: »
    BoatMad wrote: »
    The evidence is those that recover from any sort of serious bout they can loose 10-30% lung function permanently

    This is not some form of mild flu

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    That's wankerdom of the highest order. What, is your summer trip jeopardized?


  • #6170
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    JustAThought wrote: »
    there wont be a fish left in the sea or bees or wildlife anywhere if the poison the water and air with chemicals and bleach.Where so they think the run off for these chemicals go?

    Bleach breaks down to salt water fairly quickly, it's not a danger to the oceans and probably would be mostly broken down in passing through storm water drainage systems.


  • #6171
    NATLOR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭NATLOR


    Curious_Case wrote: »
    Me too

    The UK were a little slow

    US citizens are very unfortunate in that their president seems unable to comprehend statistics, facts, mathematics, etc.

    Trump is a one trick pony, great man for sorting out the economy

    Your worst nightmare for dealing with this


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  • #6172
    Busi_Girl08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    OH works in a Builder's Providers.
    They had all the safety measures in place.
    2 in the shop at a time, sanitizer and gloves available, 2m marked out for queuing outside/tils, people with accounts told to phone in order and collect - drive into the yard jobby.

    And what happens? People notice the gates to the yard are open to allow collection so they start to go into the shop via the warehouse. For a browse...or to order new bathroom suites.. :rolleyes:
    Staff working were being put at risk because half the bloody country decided this was the ideal time to tackle those DIY projects, and some of those people decided they didn't want to queue or stick to the restrictions.

    Hardware shops are now emergency/delivery above is the reason why.

    A lot of older people in local towns seem happy to just wonder in for a browse and a chat. A good few retailers have had a closed door policy over the last week or so for that reason.


  • #6173
    CptMackey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭CptMackey


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    Christ almighty. They received advice yesterday to shut the country down. Would you have preferred they waited while they drew up the list and still have hordes of eejits roaming the countryside today? Just to satisfy a few gob****es with no common sense on the internet?

    I imagine they knew this was a distinct possibility a few weeks ago. So a list of what to close and what to stay open should have been sorted . This gets people to stay at home and keeps their boss off their backs. And leave people know should they apply for the social.
    The 2 week term is nonsense as well. This is going to be months of this


  • #6174
    Red for Danger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Red for Danger


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Once ICUs and hospitals get overwhelmed and reach capacity the death rate soars.

    True
    We've to take this inevitability into or planning here
    The fairytale stuff has to stop
    Were not south South Korea
    Germany deaths just like the others is on the rise it was only the time keeping the low
    Belgium on 64 early in the morning and irish people on here still thinking we're gonna stay in control

    I


  • #6175
    RoryMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    CptMackey wrote: »
    So they could have had a list done

    I think you're underestimating the work involved in putting together a list of services/businesses that need to be kept open or partially open to support the essential services. Each hospital probably has 100's of companies that provide equipment or services to them, most of those won't be critical to the day to day running of the hospital but when for example their PCs stop working or the air conditioning stops these will need to be fixed


  • #6176
    Bob24
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    The way they do passport checks in China those days for inbound international flights ... directly on the plane with heavy protective equipment before being sent into quarantine.

    507320.jpeg


  • #6177
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    You've been banging on about this non-stop for weeks.



    I've been a little bit shocked by how many self-centered people there are in this country. People who don't feel we are in this together. People who are only interested in their personal comforts and don't give a damn how many people have to die to service them.

    Italy is finally starting to curb its death rate.

    h2i8h2v3z8p41.jpg

    'A waste of time', I can imagine you saying, 'Sure they should have kept on the way they were going, but just euthanize those who are brought into hospital. The economy would be saved, and decent people would not be inconvenienced'

    This was the attitude that led to Covid-19 becoming a pandemic in the first place. Can't cut off travel with China, that would damage the economy.

    Call people who say that the curve should be flattened 'panic-mongers' say that people who listen to the government and health professionals are 'mouth-breathers', say that the possibility of long-term damage to health due to the coronavirus is just bull****.



    That's wankerdom of the highest order. What, is your summer trip jeopardized?
    That poster is one of the worst for the selfishness all right - "well I'm fine, so what's the problem bruh?"

    We are a month behind Italy and Spain. It's only in the last month that things escalated for them.


  • #6178
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Achasanai wrote: »


    Exactly. Although we're due a 'big' shop, we're waiting until the end part of the week with the hope that any panic buying will have died down by then.

    Supermarkets haven’t done enough imo you should get a ticket entering the car park stay at your car then go in when your number is called or comes up on a screen this lining up craic ha to stop it also heightens panic when people see queues
    Also anyone sharing empty shelves or big queues on social media need to be fined it just adds to the panic


  • #6179
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    You've been banging on about this non-stop for weeks.



    I've been a little bit shocked by how many self-centered people there are in this country. People who don't feel we are in this together. People who are only interested in their personal comforts and don't give a damn how many people have to die to service them.

    Italy is finally starting to curb its death rate.

    h2i8h2v3z8p41.jpg

    'A waste of time', I can imagine you saying, 'Sure they should have kept on the way they were going, but just euthanize those who are brought into hospital. The economy would be saved, and decent people would not be inconvenienced'

    This was the attitude that led to Covid-19 becoming a pandemic in the first place. Can't cut off travel with China, that would damage the economy.

    Call people who say that the curve should be flattened 'panic-mongers' say that people who listen to the government and health professionals are 'mouth-breathers', say that the possibility of long-term damage to health due to the coronavirus is just bull****.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112928035&postcount=237

    That's wankerdom of the highest order. What, is your summer trip jeopardized?

    It is interesting how much of people's personalities have been laid bare on these threads. Let it go, you're mutually irritated/outraged by the topic and it'll just be yet another bout of scrapping for the moral high ground.


  • #6180
    Steer55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Steer55


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    New data has been added to Worldometer. Including the date of each country's first case confirmation.

    When Italy and Spain were at the point in time that we are at now (about four weeks since the first confirmed case) they had a fraction of the deaths in this country.

    I'm actually sick with worry now.


    It's no good worrying, just follow the protocols asked of you, no more can be said. There are political. Cultural and environmental factors at play too in the way particular countries are affected with this virus. We can't really compare countries with each other.


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  • #6181
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    BBC reporting that an official in Japan has said that an emergency is coming in Tokyo. Now that the Olympics has been cancelled will we start to get the real picture of what is happening there?


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