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    #242
    rusty the athlete
    Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭rusty the athlete


    Are we who are "cocooned" allowed to shop for groceries or are we expected to go without food for 2 weeks?


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    #243
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Do all over 70’s have to “cocoon”?

    Well if I was related to them I would hope they would cocoon. My parents are lucky though as they have a garden to sit out in or work in. Before thsi my dad got up at 5am for a short walk outside but now they have decided to cocoon so to speak, but be an early riser if you need a walk as less people to come across


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    #244
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    appledrop wrote: »
    Leo clearly stated that people in a family unit can go out for a walk together once within 2km of home . Dont know who decided here about 1 parent thing its nonsense.

    I live in Fingal + seems like parks are open in likes of Malahide Castle etc but car parks closed. This makes sense as if you want to use facility you should be in walking distance if your abiding by 2km rules.

    The guidelines say individual exercise within 2 km. That would suggest adults in the same household should not exercise together.
    I presume it is to stop people meeting up. There would be no way to tell if from the same house or not


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    #245
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,782 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Next stage:Soylent Green, for those who fail to cocoon.


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    #246
    Cianos
    Registered Users Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    eggy81 wrote: »
    Can I pick up my son from his mum. Short distance away. But is it considered essential

    You are allowed travel for vital family reasons such as providing care to children. - From the RTE News website


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    #247
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    eggy81 wrote: »
    Can I pick up my son from his mum. Short distance away. But is it considered essential

    Not advisable. Two different groups.


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    #248
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    khalessi wrote: »
    Well if I was related to them I would hope they would cocoon. My parents are lucky though as they have a garden to sit out in or work in. Before thsi my dad got up at 5am for a short walk outside but now they have decided to cocoon so to speak, but be an early riser if you need a walk as less people to come across

    Mine are both 70 and they will without a doubt go walking. My mother especially is addicted to walking.


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    #249
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,782 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Cianos wrote: »
    You are allowed travel for vital family reasons such as providing care to children. - From the RTE News website



    Correct. Allowances made specifically for family emergencies in Leo's speech last night.


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    #250
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Mine are both 70 and they will without a doubt go walking. My mother especially is addicted to walking.

    Same with my folks and dad hates being housebound but they will manage


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    #251
    Skerries
    Registered Users Posts: 12,347 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    can't even spellcheck their own document

    ensure spaces are not crowed
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    #252
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    rusty the athlete wrote: »
    Are we who are "cocooned" allowed to shop for groceries or are we expected to go without food for 2 weeks?

    You're allowed to do the same as everyone else. This is advice, there is no enforced "cocooning"
    There are plenty of agencies offering to get food including guards for over 70s. No need for anyone to starve, but you already know that.


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    #253
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,925 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    It really isn't, though. I rang my local centre before making the trip there with a bag of stinking rubbish in the car. They said that they were staying open - but that was almost a week ago, so would be worth checking.

    That's fine but the crowd here aren't picking up phones.


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    #254
    Phoebas
    Registered Users Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Skerries wrote: »
    can't even spellcheck their own document

    ensure spaces are not crowed

    Nitpicking a bit there.


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    #255
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    In the national interest please obey the rules. The government would never would never use this crisis to socially engineer society and remove pesky civil liberties, such as the right to protest. If your friends, family or neighbours are not obeying then report them comrades..


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    #256
    rusty the athlete
    Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭rusty the athlete


    joe40 wrote: »
    You're allowed to do the same as everyone else. This is advice, there is no enforced "cocooning"
    There are plenty of agencies offering to get food including guards for over 70s. No need for anyone to starve, but you already know that.
    If I had known that I would have not posted the question.


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    #257
    Danger781
    Registered Users Posts: 5,686 ✭✭✭Danger781


    I've read the thread, the announcement and some articles but I'm still unclear.. are take aways open? Or is it now forced delivery only?

    If I wanted to drive 7km to my usual take away will I be allowed to do that?


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    #258
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Danger781 wrote: »
    I've read the thread, the announcement and some articles but I'm still unclear.. are take aways open? Or is it now forced delivery only?

    If I wanted to drive 7km to my usual take away will I be allowed to do that?

    Nein, das ist vorboten.


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    #259
    NotTotallySure
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭NotTotallySure


    joe40 wrote: »
    The guidelines say individual exercise within 2 km. That would suggest adults in the same household should not exercise together.
    I presume it is to stop people meeting up. There would be no way to tell if from the same house or not

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=507311&d=1585384965

    Posted on today's Irish Times.
    Adults and children of the same household can go for a walk together, within 2km of their home.


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    #260
    Penfailed
    Registered Users Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    joe40 wrote: »
    The guidelines say individual exercise within 2 km. That would suggest adults in the same household should not exercise together.
    I presume it is to stop people meeting up. There would be no way to tell if from the same house or not

    You can exercise with your family.

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    #261
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    In the national interest please obey the rules. The government would never would never use this crisis to socially engineer society and remove pesky civil liberties, such as the right to protest. If your friends, family or neighbours are not obeying then report them comrades..

    People are naturally concerned and worried. Maybe this isn't the time to be poking fun? There are serious concerns about power plays by those in power, but this isn't the time nor place.


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    #262
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    eggy81 wrote: »
    Can I pick up my son from his mum. Short distance away. But is it considered essential

    At the moment its advised to not mix households. It's something I've had to discuss with someone about recently. A judge has given a fair assessment of things here:

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/top-judge-says-children-of-separated-parents-should-use-skype-if-covid-19-halts-access-39083329.html


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    #263
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Breakerz wrote: »
    You're assuming people, who have never been in this position before or had experience in a situation like this, now know what they're doing. Although judging by your post you probably have little to be worrying about anyway. Many Gardai stations across the county are receiving phonecalls as to whether people should go to work or not thanks to the lack of clarity. Absolute madness.

    People are always free to use their own common sense in the small window of half a day to a day before the full list will be published. Anyone phoning a Garda station wondering whether they should go to work should have a look at themselves and cop on.

    I'm assuming that senior health officials and qualified epidemiologists are in a far better position to judge what's needed than your average joe. Hardly unreasonable.


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    #264
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    NotTotallySure wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=507311&d=1585384965

    Posted on today's Irish Times.
    Adults and children of the same household can go for a walk together, within 2km of their home.

    Thanks for that, it is different from what was published earlier, they clearly said individual exercise only.


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    #265
    firemansam4
    Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    Need a Username wrote: »
    How did you find the numbers for past years?

    It is very difficult to figure out which view is correct.

    If your numbers are right then that is a massive increase and dies not tally with the “all hysteria” view.

    Average of 155 doesn’t mean it was throughout the year - maybe this time of year is when the majority actually died.

    How can there still be people questioning this?

    The Stories coming back from Italy and Spain are scary and horrific, they are having to set up temporary morgues to deal with the numbers of dead, reports of doctors having to decide who lives or dies because they can not cope with the numbers in ICU. This is anything but any normal year for them.

    Íde like to know who is making these "all hysteria" claims? some one asked you earlier for a source, I would like to see this as well...


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    #266
    km79
    Registered Users Posts: 48,153 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Are solicitors closed ? Would have assumed they were an essential service but do not see them on the list?


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    #267
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    km79 wrote: »
    Are solicitors closed ? Would have assumed they were an essential service but do not see them on the list?

    probably contactable via email


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    #268
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Skerries wrote: »
    can't even spellcheck their own document

    ensure spaces are not crowed

    Your shift button broken?


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    #269
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why 2KM restriction I wonder? Why did they pick that number of kilometres...........its very short.
    My daughter and sister live in the UK and while they are apparently on a lockdown, they can exercise anywhere, no restrictions in terms of distance at all.
    She has discovered some lovely country bridlepaths and walkways and some forests, all socially distancing. I was walking in woods and quiet country lanes this week completely alone, meeting nobody, but I had to drive to get to them. They are all within 8km of where I live.

    There is nothing within 2km of me except a very fast main road.


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    #270
    conor05
    Registered Users Posts: 948 ✭✭✭conor05


    Was there a time given today of when the full list of each individual service deemed essential would be published?


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    #271
    crossman47
    Registered Users Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭crossman47


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Going to the shops is one thing, not going for a walk another.

    I doubt many people of that age will stop going for a walk.

    Well they should. Its for their own sake. Start talking about their will if they don't cop on.


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