CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

AVFC.Stephen · 28-03-2020 06:56AM

Question.

Company I work for supplies pallets. We supply to every place.

We have machines and tool equipment plus a good few staff. Let's say we could be considered essential for shops like lidl aldi etc to continue business.

If we need a spare part for our machines but the engineers are closed. What is considered essential?

While I think safe distancing and extra precautions is great. I cant get my head around what's considered essential and nonessential

regedit · 28-03-2020 06:58AM

We live in Kildare and my elderly mum in Dublin. She has multiple health issues and would be considered high risk. I have tried 3-4 online delivery stores but Tesco's earliest delivery slot is 15 April, Supervalue the same etc so will have to drive 50 km unfortunately to get her groceries. Hope I am not stopped having to explain my actions but it's either this or she starves!

Gael23 · 28-03-2020 06:59AM

What happens to people living in rural areas further than 2km from shops and essential services?

Away With The Fairies · 28-03-2020 07:00AM

Is there a list of these essential businesses yet?

windy shepard henderson · 28-03-2020 07:00AM

Gael23 wrote: »

What happens to people living in rural areas further than 2km from shops and essential services?

what do you think???

the 2km rule is for walkers and joggers only ....

Wanderer78 · 28-03-2020 07:02AM

regedit wrote:

We live in Kildare and my elderly mum in Dublin. She has multiple health issues and would be considered high risk. I have tried 3-4 online delivery stores but Tesco's earliest delivery slot is 15 April, Supervalue the same etc so will have to drive 50 km unfortunately to get her groceries. Hope I am not stopped having to explain my actions but it's either this or she starves!

You should be fine, I'd imagine Gardai will understand, and this is permitted under new rules. Best of luck

ewc78 · 28-03-2020 07:03AM

Self employed Electrician here. I'm guessing my services are still considered essential in the event of a break down?

pc7 · 28-03-2020 07:05AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

You should be fine, I'd imagine Gardai will understand, and this is permitted under new rules. Best of luck

I’ll be driving food to my folks today, same as you couldn’t get a delivery. I’ll just explain it to the guards. They will know you are genuine.

NetChat101 · 28-03-2020 07:05AM

regedit wrote: »

We live in Kildare and my elderly mum in Dublin. She has multiple health issues and would be considered high risk. I have tried 3-4 online delivery stores but Tesco's earliest delivery slot is 15 April, Supervalue the same etc so will have to drive 50 km unfortunately to get her groceries. Hope I am not stopped having to explain my actions but it's either this or she starves!

One of the exceptions to the 2km rule is if you have to care for a family member.

munster87 · 28-03-2020 07:06AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Is there a list of these essential businesses yet?

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/625292-updated-list-of-essential-retail-outlets-27th-march-2020/

Gael23 · 28-03-2020 07:06AM

regedit wrote: »

We live in Kildare and my elderly mum in Dublin. She has multiple health issues and would be considered high risk. I have tried 3-4 online delivery stores but Tesco's earliest delivery slot is 15 April, Supervalue the same etc so will have to drive 50 km unfortunately to get her groceries. Hope I am not stopped having to explain my actions but it's either this or she starves!

Could you take her to stay with you for a while?

AVFC.Stephen · 28-03-2020 07:07AM

ewc78 wrote: »

Self employed Electrician here. I'm guessing my services are still considered essential in the event of a break down?

Where will you get your parts? This idea of essential and nonessential really doesnt make sense

autumnbelle · 28-03-2020 07:08AM

ewc78 wrote: »

Self employed Electrician here. I'm guessing my services are still considered essential in the event of a break down?

Yeah call outs are on the list

Hooked · 28-03-2020 07:08AM

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/

Updated list here BUT I still can’t be sure if they are going to amend it... as it only lists retailers???

It also says those stores must observe physical distancing but also says we should only go out for food and medicine? So do I go to B&Q to get repair materials - or am I not allowed out with the exception of food/medical.

I’m all for these measures but the info is contradictory

NetChat101 · 28-03-2020 07:09AM

Gael23 wrote: »

What happens to people living in rural areas further than 2km from shops and essential services?

Obviously if your supermarket/chemist is more than 2km away you can go for your essentials.

regedit · 28-03-2020 07:09AM

Gael23 wrote: »

Could you take her to stay with you for a while?

We have kids and the fear is they could pass it on if they somehow acquire it. Children have very good immunity. Elderly people not so

ewc78 · 28-03-2020 07:10AM

AVFC.Stephen wrote: »

Where will you get your parts? This idea of essential and nonessential really doesnt make sense

Would have plenty of parts at home. Just wondering if I get a phone call to say someone has no power in sockets or heating is not working or something then would that be considered a essential service to go fix them?
Then again do I really want to be going into someone else's house now, but on the other hand I'd hate to see someone stuck with no power.

speckle · 28-03-2020 07:12AM

vunerable groups
https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/guidance/vulnerablegroupsguidance/
surprised people with cardiac issues not mentioned more or high blood pressure or vision impaired.

AVFC.Stephen · 28-03-2020 07:13AM

ewc78 wrote: »

Would have plenty of parts at home. Just wondering if I get a phone call to say someone has no power in sockets or heating is not working or something then would that be considered a essential service to go fix them?
Then again do I really want to be going into someone else's house now, but on the other hand I'd hate to see someone stuck with no power.

That's a fair point. But I'm sure there is a lot of sparks in the country that wont be as lucky as you to have everything needed to carry out there job... while I think you should be considered essential. What's to say your parts provider isnt?

c.p.w.g.w · 28-03-2020 07:14AM

Hooked wrote: »

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/

Updated list here BUT I still can’t be sure if they are going to amend it... as it only lists retailers???

It also says those stores must observe physical distancing but also says we should only go out for food and medicine? So do I go to B&Q to get repair materials - or am I not allowed out with the exception of food/medical.

I’m all for these measures but the info is contradictory

No mention of what types of manufacturing/construction which is essential?

Naggdefy · 28-03-2020 07:19AM

Regarding your 10k run/walk or 40k cycle. Many say they are living in isolated rural areas. Ok I'm very familiar with that, my home place is above as isolated as you can get.

However why not look on it as an exercise in self discipline to adhere by the guidelines? It is lent after all... It's all me, me, me my routine, I want to stay in shape etc.

It's also very easy to organise circuit training in your garage or garden with free weights, core exercises. You can run the perimeter of the circle within a 2k radius, over 12k.

pc7 · 28-03-2020 07:20AM

So are all construction sites closed now?

walshb · 28-03-2020 07:21AM

Owl McGregor has really bandwagoned this one. He’s getting more frequent than Tony bleedin’ Holohan.

DOCARCH · 28-03-2020 07:21AM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

No mention of what types of manufacturing/construction which is essential?

I think that's due later....

They will certainly have to clarify what's essential/non-essential.

Hooked · 28-03-2020 07:22AM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

No mention of what types of manufacturing/construction which is essential?

Exactly - I’m in a printers, luckily 2km from my gaff. We print a lot of material for HSE, med-tech and similar companies. Could be argued essential, especially as we had orders yesterday for Covid-19 specific medication records, but the list in gov.ie ONLY includes retail!

As I’ve said in earlier posts, I’m all for this LEO.CKDOWN - I own that phrase now - but the info is contradictory

DOCARCH · 28-03-2020 07:22AM

pc7 wrote: »

So are all construction sites closed now?

To be clarified. They can't be all closed!

Gynoid · 28-03-2020 07:24AM

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/two-metres-not-enough-when-social-distancing-39083182.html

An article about the 2 metres distancing, which thus far I have found to be a pragmatic recommendation rather than scientifically accurate. And so it is.
Quote -
"a new analysis by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in the US has found that viral droplets expelled in coughs and sneezes can travel in a moist, warm atmosphere at speeds of 10-30 metres (33ft-100ft) per second, creating a cloud that can span approximately 7-8 metres (23ft-27ft)"

"The researchers also warn that droplets can stay suspended in the air for hours, moving along airflow patterns imposed by ventilation or climate-control systems.

Virus particles have already been found in the ventilation systems of hospital rooms of patients with coronavirus, which the team believes could have been carried on "turbulent clouds" of air."

Humberto Salazar · 28-03-2020 07:26AM

Will the bins be collected? I assume in cities, yes. But the private companies that service rural areas?

Hoboo · 28-03-2020 07:27AM

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

Will the bins be collected? I assume in cities, yes. But the private companies that service rural areas?

We'll see when they release the list, but Id imagine bins are essential. Other than that, check your provider?

amadangomor · 28-03-2020 07:29AM

AVFC.Stephen wrote: »

Question.

Company I work for supplies pallets. We supply to every place.

We have machines and tool equipment plus a good few staff. Let's say we could be considered essential for shops like lidl aldi etc to continue business.

If we need a spare part for our machines but the engineers are closed. What is considered essential?

While I think safe distancing and extra precautions is great. I cant get my head around what's considered essential and nonessential

Talk to your manager

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03