CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

ThePopehimself · 28-03-2020 03:39AM

fritzelly wrote: »

It's here and lots of nice comments (the odd vile one)

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3046484045403718&redirect=false

Thank you so much for that, I really got stuck in to watching that! He's doing a terrific job :-)

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 03:40AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Quote:
Originally Posted by sasta le View Post
https://mobile.twitter.com/SindyLJoy...43740394328064
Travellers given priority testing

Because of their living arrangements; halting sites, mobile homes, tight crowded communities - the Virus could spread quickly.

That's ICU beds gone very quickly.

The only people that should be getting priority testing is frontline health care workers followed by the elderly or high risk groups (e.g. cancer, lung issues etc), after that everybody else

NegativeCreep · 28-03-2020 03:41AM

I work for a pharmaceutical company and got a text to say we are essential and should show up for work. The thing is, we aren’t, and have not yet, made a commercial batch so we do not make any medications for patients. Does this sound correct? Surely we’re doing more harm than good by going to work?

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 03:44AM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I work for a pharmaceutical company and got a text to say we are essential and should show up for work. The thing is, we aren’t, and have not yet, made a commercial batch so we do not make any medications for patients. Does this sound correct? Surely we’re doing more harm than good by going to work?

What kind of pharmaceutical? Chat with the local TD
Some businesses see profit above employee health - and by law employers have to provide a safe working environment not withstanding taking in to account a government advisory about non essential work having to close

28-03-2020 03:46AM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I work for a pharmaceutical company and got a text to say we are essential and should show up for work. The thing is, we aren’t, and have not yet, made a commercial batch so we do not make any medications for patients. Does this sound correct? Surely we’re doing more harm than good by going to work?

Without knowing what you make, the actual organisations workplace and your role, it's hard to say.

Maintenance is an essential position even if not directly involved depending on what's being maintained (esb, bord gais are prime examples)

Course that could be covered the the one man with a van that's running around expressing his freedoms apparently.

NegativeCreep · 28-03-2020 03:46AM

fritzelly wrote: »

What kind of pharmaceutical? Chat with the local TD
Some businesses see profit above employee health - and by law employers have to provide a safe working environment not withstanding taking in to account a government advisory about non essential work having to close

Anti-cancer. But as I said we aren’t actually manufacturing it at the minute and won’t be until early next year. I would contact a local TD if I could be sure to remain anonymous. In fact, the Taoiseach himself is local!

growleaves · 28-03-2020 03:48AM

Stop being so flippant and self entitled.

Me being entitled? Why do you think I've spent the last two weeks arguing with on this web site? I haven't gone anywhere (non-essential)

Everything is being subordinated to controlling this virus. Not just 'the economy', every semblance of normality.

Yet it still isn't enough. People still call it 'soft' that people can roam outside their apartment for five minutes, without seeing a single person, in spite that you woud wither away if you spent last winter, this summer and next winter indoors (1.5 years without sunshine).

You need to wise up. All the massive stress putting everyone under will be tanking immune systems all over the shop.

28-03-2020 03:49AM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Anti-cancer. But as I said we aren’t actually manufacturing it at the minute and won’t be until early next year. I would contact a local TD if I could be sure to remain anonymous. In fact, the Taoiseach himself is local!

Presumable the factory can't just stop completely? There's prep work, maintenance of systems, supplies and lab work required. I guess only you know how important a wheel in that system you are.

Is everyone still going or skeleton crew?

hot buttered scones · 28-03-2020 03:50AM

I work in the Pharma industry as a lab tech so I can't work from home. We were handed letters on Thursday morning to say we are essential workers - to be shown to the Gardaí in case we are stopped on the way to work. I also got a text tonight to say I am an essential worker and I am to com into work. We are practicing very effective social distancing and hand hygiene at work. I get the feeling they were on the know about what was coming. Both my parents are over 70. My sister has an autoimmune condition. I expect all of them will have to be cocooned, so I'll be doing the shopping etc. for them if they can't get online deliveries. There is no way my parents could managr online shopping unless I did it for them. My wife and kids are asthmatic - I'm not sure if they are in an at risk category. So I don't know if I should go out at all even though I need to for work and to help my family out. I think the current government have handled this pretty well so far, but I hope I can get some more clarity by tomorrow. Sorry if this is a bit rambling. I suppose I'm just venting really.

skimpydoo · 28-03-2020 03:50AM

Need a Username wrote: »

To be fair, she/he never said they were a good journalist.

Well, I ain't that bad but I won't win awards for what I do.

paul71 · 28-03-2020 03:50AM

growleaves wrote: »

Me being entitled? Why do you think I've spent the last two weeks arguing with on this web site? I haven't gone anywhere (non-essential)

Everything is being subordinated to controlling this virus. Not just 'the economy', every semblance of normality.

Yet it still isn't enough. People still call it 'soft' that people can roam outside their apartment for five minutes, without seeing a single person, in spite that you woud wither away if you spent last winter, this summer and next winter indoors (1.5 years without sunshine).

You need to wise up. All the massive stress putting everyone under will be tanking immune systems all over the shop.

Yes self entitled, being asked to sit on a coach and go for walks within 2 kilometers of your home is SO stressful.

Larbre34 · 28-03-2020 03:51AM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I work for a pharmaceutical company and got a text to say we are essential and should show up for work. The thing is, we aren’t, and have not yet, made a commercial batch so we do not make any medications for patients. Does this sound correct? Surely we’re doing more harm than good by going to work?

Not really for you to decide. If pharma activity is allowed by the regulations, go to work and use precautions.

If you have vulnerable people in your household, declare yourself unable and claim social welfare for the duration.

growleaves · 28-03-2020 03:51AM

Yes self entitled, being asked to sit on a coach and go for walks within 2 kilometers of your home is SO stressful.

No people are objecting to anyone leaving their house at all. That's what I'm responding to.

hot buttered scones · 28-03-2020 03:52AM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I work for a pharmaceutical company and got a text to say we are essential and should show up for work. The thing is, we aren’t, and have not yet, made a commercial batch so we do not make any medications for patients. Does this sound correct? Surely we’re doing more harm than good by going to work?

I work for a pharma company too, although we are making product atm and I got a similiar text. If you practice correct social distancing at work then maybe it will be ok

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 03:52AM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Anti-cancer. But as I said we aren’t actually manufacturing it at the minute and won’t be until early next year. I would contact a local TD if I could be sure to remain anonymous. In fact, the Taoiseach himself is local!

Wouldn't know enough about the prep work required whereas it may be needed now for the future to advise

khalessi · 28-03-2020 03:53AM

growleaves wrote: »

Me being entitled? Why do you think I've spent the last two weeks arguing with on this web site? I haven't gone anywhere (non-essential)

Everything is being subordinated to controlling this virus. Not just 'the economy', every semblance of normality.

Yet it still isn't enough. People still call it 'soft' that people can roam outside their apartment for five minutes, without seeing a single person, in spite that you woud wither away if you spent last winter, this summer and next winter indoors (1.5 years without sunshine).

You need to wise up. All the massive stress putting everyone under will be tanking immune systems all over the shop.

Fine but they dont need to go on 150 mile drives, or marathon runs, just get out in sun for 20 minutes a day for vit D levels. They dont need to go for long drives becuase they were asked not to and perhaps put an overstretched emergency service under more strain

Psychedelic Hedgehog · 28-03-2020 03:53AM

growleaves wrote: »

No people are objecting to anyone leaving their house at all. That's what I'm responding to.

Try putting yourself in this guy's shoes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IQnWqpv0_w

28-03-2020 03:53AM

growleaves wrote: »

Me being entitled? Why do you think I've spent the last two weeks arguing with on this web site? I haven't gone anywhere (non-essential)

Everything is being subordinated to controlling this virus. Not just 'the economy', every semblance of normality.

Yet it still isn't enough. People still call it 'soft' that people can roam outside their apartment for five minutes, without seeing a single person, in spite that you woud wither away if you spent last winter, this summer and next winter indoors (1.5 years without sunshine).

You need to wise up. All the massive stress putting everyone under will be tanking immune systems all over the shop.

Ignoring reality went change anything. You can get sunshine without walking for miles. It's been said a few times now how.

I also haven't argued for total isolation. I know the mental stress it causes.

But you are still the guy that's shrugging the requests of the emergency services and medical experts off while arguing for your right to saunter about willy nilly.

NegativeCreep · 28-03-2020 03:55AM

hot buttered scones wrote: »

I work for a pharma company too, although we are making product atm and I got a similiar text. If you practice correct social distancing at work then maybe it will be ok

I know what you’re saying but working on the manufacturing floor makes it impossible so socially distance.

skimpydoo · 28-03-2020 03:55AM

Need a Username wrote: »

To be fair, she/he never said they were a good journalist.

But I have been published in Phoenix Magazine so I can't be that bad.

28-03-2020 03:58AM

hot buttered scones wrote: »

I work in the Pharma industry as a lab tech so I can't work from home. We were handed letters on Thursday morning to say we are essential workers - to be shown to the Gardaí in case we are stopped on the way to work. I also got a text tonight to say I am an essential worker and I am to com into work. We are practicing very effective social distancing and hand hygiene at work. I get the feeling they were on the know about what was coming. Both my parents are over 70. My sister has an autoimmune condition. I expect all of them will have to be cocooned, so I'll be doing the shopping etc. for them if they can't get online deliveries. There is no way my parents could managr online shopping unless I did it for them. My wife and kids are asthmatic - I'm not sure if they are in an at risk category. So I don't know if I should go out at all even though I need to for work and to help my family out. I think the current government have handled this pretty well so far, but I hope I can get some more clarity by tomorrow. Sorry if this is a bit rambling. I suppose I'm just venting really.

My understanding is that you should still work but naturally your families existing illnesses are a cause for concern.

I don't have any great answer I'm afraid. Your essential but by the same token, have a duty to your family.

Clean everything, wash hands and so on.

cnocbui · 28-03-2020 03:59AM

paul71 wrote: »

So you know that 14.56 km is the distance you can go on 1 radius, the circumference and back. Well done your problem is now solved.

Will you now make the effort the prevent the deaths of any more nurses in our ICUs?

You must live in a city. Nice theory, you should try walking 14.56 km in wellies.

I saw your earlier appeal to the example of those who fought in wars. My father did just that in WW2, and I know he wouldn't have stopped at 2km, which I won't be doing either, because your whataboutry in claiming such activity is a threat to the well being of nurses is sanctimonious pig swill. I will take any and all measures that are sensible and which might possibly make a difference.

See anyone to infect or be infected by?:

I'll continue my walks.

hot buttered scones · 28-03-2020 04:03AM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I know what you’re saying but working on the manufacturing floor makes it impossible so socially distance.

Then your company should take measures to ensure it is. We removed most of the seats from the canteens. The main canteen now has tape on the tables to ensure everyome sits 2m apart. Everyone who can work from home is. A lot of people have been moved out of my office to offices left empty by the WFH crowd. Meetings are being done by Webex. We keep our distance in the lab. Break times have been staggered and shift times altered so shifts don't meet each other. Hand sanitisers have been installed everywhere.

If you can't socially distance then wear PPE. We have "dust masks" which are actually FFP3 respirators and airhoods. Most of the cancer drugs are high potency are they not? If so then they should be made in a high containment unit surely and you should wearing an air hood.

Or you could just say you've developed a cough amd self isolate for 2 weeks.

hot buttered scones · 28-03-2020 04:06AM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

My understanding is that you should still work but naturally your families existing illnesses are a cause for concern.

I don't have any great answer I'm afraid. Your essential but by the same token, have a duty to your family.

Clean everything, wash hands and so on.

Thanks. My job is essential - sick people need drugs. I'm not in until Tuesday so I'll think on it. I might ask to do all nights for a bit - that way I'll meet far less people. And drink less cans ðŸ˜€

NegativeCreep · 28-03-2020 04:08AM

hot buttered scones wrote: »

Then your company should take measures to ensure it is. We removed most of the seats from the canteens. The main canteen now has tape on the tables to ensure everyome sits 2m apart. Everyone who can work from home is. A lot of people have been moved out of my office to offices left empty by the WFH crowd. Meetings are being done by Webex. We keep our distance in the lab. Break times have been staggered and shift times altered so shifts don't meet each other. Hand sanitisers have been installed everywhere.

If you can't socially distance then wear PPE. We have "dust masks" which are actually FFP3 respirators and airhoods. Most of the cancer drugs are high potency are they not? If so then they should be made in a high containment unit surely and you should wearing an air hood.

Or you could just say you've developed a cough amd self isolate for 2 weeks.

Not during upstream processing no.

I guess I’ll have the ask the relevant people in my company when I’m back it. Cheers everyone

snoopboggybog · 28-03-2020 04:10AM

the whole year inn wrote: »

Your a ****ing clown , what are you losing out in two weeks.Honest to god ,what's wrong with people just stay in doors unless for essentials. Walk around the house if you need exercise. You have 2k grace but you seem hell bent on breaking that , you deserve what you get.

He's not going to spread the virus by walking there in all honesty. Would be no difference walking there or staying at home. Don't see the problem. Who's he going to infect? Please I'd love to know?

Better off walking there than a public street.

U would be 100 times worse in a crowded area. Maybe some people on this thread don't have the IQ to realize this.

hot buttered scones · 28-03-2020 04:17AM

snoopboggybog wrote: »

He's not going to spread the virus by walking there in all honesty. Would be no difference walking there or staying at home. Don't see the problem. Who's he going to infect? Please I'd love to know?

Better off walking there than a public street.

U would be 100 times worse in a crowded area. Maybe some people on this thread don't have the IQ to realize this.

It's about excercising some personal responsibility and not taking unneccesary risks. So, yeah if you live in an isolated area then obviously going outside the 2k limit isn't a risk. You're more than likely not going to meet anyone. It's a different story in a built up area of course.

cnocbui · 28-03-2020 04:19AM

the whole year inn wrote: »

>snip epic high horsery<, you deserve what you get.

Yes, sunshine, fresh air, exercise and a strengthened immune system.

paul71 · 28-03-2020 04:21AM

cnocbui wrote: »

You must live in a city. Nice theory, you should try walking 14.56 km in wellies.

I saw your earlier appeal to the example of those who fought in wars. My father did just that in WW2, and I know he wouldn't have stopped at 2km, which I won't be doing either, because your whataboutry in claiming such activity is a threat to the well being of nurses is sanctimonious pig swill. I will take any and all measures that are sensible and which might possibly make a difference.

See anyone to infect or be infected by?:

I'll continue my walks.

No I live 10 miles from the nearest town and I will obey the laws introduced by our government to safeguard lives, I dispair of self entitled prats who refuse to do so.

ThePopehimself · 28-03-2020 04:22AM

Psychedelic Hedgehog wrote: »

Try putting yourself in this guy's shoes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IQnWqpv0_w

That's gut wrenching

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03