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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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    #5222
    Ace2007
    Registered Users Posts: 19,701 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    timhenn wrote: »
    The lack of self-awareness is amazing! Up to a few short hours ago, there were people saying that the government were doing a great job. They were doing all they can and asking what more can they do?

    Now, these same people are still saying what a great job the government are doing even though they have changed course. Do these people not have a brain of their own? Do they just follow blindly? No matter what the government say, they will agree it's the best move.

    There are a number of stages in this fight against the virus - if we went into a full lockdown 2 weeks ago - then the virus wouldn't be spreading as fast and the hospitals wouldn't be busy - but the virus wouldn't go away, people would get restless and start to wander about 3 weeks and then you would get to week 6 and numbers would rocket - and then what - enforce another lockdown?

    The government have all the medical experts to hand - what have you got?


    Your one of these posters that has 20/20 vision and no matter what the government do you will find fault.


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    #5223
    BoatMad
    Registered Users Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    Need a Username wrote: »
    I’ve asked about that but other than snark I’ve not recurved an answer - unless it got lost the last few pages.

    If that guy goes out for a run what are the the guards supposed to do about it? He is is on his own - unless he is hassling people then what harm.

    I need to collect a couple of parcels tomorrow. Am I not allowed to walk to my sister’s house?

    I think you miss the whole point of this virus issue don’t yiu


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    #5224
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    con747 wrote: »
    In my case my OH works in a sector that is vital so is doing 14-17 hour days since the beginning of the month 7 days a week. We are a 1 car household and her hours do not coincide with supermarket opening. So, I have to try get people i don't know to get my shopping is what has changed for me and numerous others in that boat. Also we live in the middle of nowhere with no nearby neighbours.

    Local GAA, help groups - plenty of options out there if you look. They are not expecting people to starve


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    #5225
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Whehey! wrote: »
    Was there anything about hotels or guesthouses having more restrictions ?

    They were already restricted to non tourist operations


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    #5226
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    BoatMad wrote: »
    There will be massive long term economic damage from this , that’s one certainty , estimates are now aporaching -7% of GDP from a + 3-5 % pervious , that’s depression terrority

    Did you quote my post but ignore everything other than the first few words I wrote? GDP for the year will be no indication of long term economic damage. GDP per quarter afterwards versus the same quarters in previous years will be. We can take a few quarters being absolute ****shows.

    You can be no more certain about long term economic damage than I can be about next year's weather. You opinion is that there might be. It is no more than your opinion and I have no idea if you have any qualifications to make such a prediction. You don't know how markets will bounce back or not, what medium term packages from the EU and the ECB will be like, how quickly the show will get on the road again here and elsewhere and all the other variables than will have a huge impact on whether or not there will be long term economic damage.


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    #5227
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Updated List of Essential Retail Outlets (27th March 2020)
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/625292-updated-list-of-essential-retail-outlets-27th-march-2020/

    Essential retail outlets
    1. Retail and wholesale sale of food, beverages and newspapers in non-specialised and specialised stores

    2. Retail sale of household consumer products necessary to maintain the safety and sanitation of residences and businesses

    3. Pharmacies/Chemists and retailers providing pharmaceuticals, pharmaceutical or dispensing services

    4. Retail sale of selling medical and orthopaedic goods in specialised stores

    5. Fuel stations and heating fuel providers

    6. Retail sale of essential items for the health and welfare of animals, including animal feed and medicines, animal food, pet food and animal supplies including bedding

    7. Laundries and Drycleaners

    8. Banks, Post Offices and Credit Unions

    9. Retail sale of safety supply stores (work clothes, Personal Protective Equipment, for example)

    Businesses that can only offer emergency call-out or delivery services
    It is recognised that there may be emergency needs arising in a number of areas, the following retailers who can offer an emergency call-out or delivery service can continue to operate on that basis ONLY:

    opticians/optometrists
    retailers involved in the repair of motor vehicles, motorcycles and bicycle repair and related facilities (tyre sales and repairs for example)
    hardware stores, builder’s merchants and stores that provide hardware products necessary for home and business maintenance, sanitation and farm equipment, supplies and tools essential for gardening/farming/agriculture
    retail sale of office products and services for individuals working from home and for businesses
    retailers providing electrical, IT and phone sales, repair and maintenance services for home.
    Physical distancing measures that must be adhered to
    Essential Retail Outlets must implement physical distancing measures:-

    ensure adequate distancing between customers and shop assistants in line with public health guidelines
    only let people into the store in small groups and ensure spaces are not crowed.
    manage queue control inside and outside the door to maintain necessary physical distance.
    all Essential Retail Outlets are encouraged to provide online services where that is possible and appropriate to minimise footfall.


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    #5228
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    How do you view the latest county by county breakdown for Ireland please?

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/3e14cb-an-analysis-of-the-1639-cases-of-covid-19-in-ireland-as-of-wednesday/

    https://coronavirus-ireland.com/map.php


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    #5229
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    con747 wrote: »
    In my case my OH works in a sector that is vital so is doing 14-17 hour days since the beginning of the month 7 days a week. We are a 1 car household and her hours do not coincide with supermarket opening. So, I have to try get people i don't know to get my shopping is what has changed for me and numerous others in that boat. Also we live in the middle of nowhere with no nearby neighbours.

    Why doesn't your other half do the shopping on the way home? Even Leitrim has a Tesco they is open 6am -midnight.I'm working similar hours to them and I can still manage to get a shop in.


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    #5230
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Alun wrote: »
    There is no "2km" limit, where are you getting this from? You're allowed to exercise within a 2km radius of your home. Two totally different things.

    The 2km thing presumably applies to visits to supermarkets and pharmacies as well. A person from Tallaght is not supposed to be driving to Ballymun or the city centre to do their grocery shopping......the general understanding I took from the Taoiseach's address is that people are expected largely to remain in their own area for the next fortnight.


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    #5231
    optimusgrime
    Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭optimusgrime


    Just wondering, I'm assuming An Post/Other couriers will still be delivering orders, ie if I order from Amazon I could still receive parcels etc?


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    #5232
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    So are the Guards going to be stopping people asking where they’re going or how exactly is this going to be policed? Is it just up to us all to comply and then Guards will intervene when measures are clearly not being adhered to? What’s to stop Dave saying he’s going to Tesco to do his mother’s shopping 5k away and then stopping on his way home for an hours run. Who is actually going to be monitoring this?


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    #5233
    Sean 18
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    Your right Leo will say next we re all vectors of this disease and we all should do a Jim Jones


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    #5234
    Ace2007
    Registered Users Posts: 19,701 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    BoatMad wrote: »
    There will be massive long term economic damage from this , that’s one certainty , estimates are now aporaching -7% of GDP from a + 3-5 % pervious , that’s depression terrority

    Is there any country that won't be affected? There is still a high % of the workforce still working despite all the gloom and doom


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    #5235
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users Posts: 3,685 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    theballz wrote: »
    Honestly I f**kin hate bats after all this.

    Batman franchise is going to take a nosedive.


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    #5236
    Monumental
    Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Monumental


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I think you miss my point. My run will now be on busy paths where distancing is impossible, whereas up until today it has been me in isolation. So in my specific case I am now more at risk of spreading the virus. I’m not going to not run (as I am allowed to do, despite your ‘stay at home’ protestations)

    Your grandparents or great grandparents were asked to go to war ,you are being asked to stay at home . It really isn't all about you and your run


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    #5237
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    It's a 2km radius from your house which means a 4km diameter which can easily max out as an 8km run/cycle/walk.
    Nobody in the countryside is going to be stopped going beyond that either.


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    #5238
    screamer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭screamer


    These restrictions might seem harsh but come on it’s nothing compared to that poor nurses plight. Poor woman RIP. There’s a family destroyed and a life gone forever. You’re being asked for 2 weeks holed up in your house, do it for her and the thousands like her who will be putting their lives on the line to save anyone who suffers this terrible virus. Reduce their risk, stay home so they get to go home alive.


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    #5239
    con747
    Registered Users Posts: 5,916 ✭✭✭con747


    BoatMad wrote: »
    So how did you shop before , and what’s wrong with others shopping for a few weeks

    Can you read? My wife has the car. When she eventually gets home she spends 30 minutes making sure she has not brought the virus home because i have 3 underlying conditions. Now i have to hope strangers have the same regime with my shopping. Is that a good reason?

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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    #5240
    Ace2007
    Registered Users Posts: 19,701 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Need a Username wrote: »

    I see people do it all the time and wonder do they know how stupid they look. :D

    Kinda like posters like you writing some amount of crap on the internet


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    #5241
    BoatMad
    Registered Users Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    Did you quote my post but ignore everything other than the first few words I wrote? GDP for the year will be no indication of long term economic damage. GDP per quarter afterwards versus the same quarters in previous years will be. We can take a few quarters being absolute ****shows.

    You can be no more certain about long term economic damage than I can be about next year's weather. You opinion is that there might be. It is no more than your opinion and I have no idea if you have any qualifications to make such a prediction. You don't know how markets will bounce back or not, what medium term packages from the EU and the ECB will be like, how quickly the show will get on the road again here and elsewhere and all the other variables than will have a huge impact on whether or not there will be long term economic damage.

    Sorry , experts have been coming out all week taking about economic damage , many of these businesses will never reopen , etc. I can argue with reason that there will be considerable damage , as to exactly how much, well that depends , but the eurozone is still arguing over Eurobonds FFS


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    #5242
    almostover
    Registered Users Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭almostover


    retro:electro wrote: »
    So are the Guards going to be stopping people asking where they’re going or how exactly is this going to be policed? Is it just up to us all to comply and then Guards will intervene when measures are clearly not being adhered to? What’s to stop Dave saying he’s going to Tesco to do his mother’s shopping 5k away and then stopping on his way home for an hours run. Who is actually going to be monitoring this?

    One word: Responsibility. This isn't about how to get away with flouting the restrictions, it's about doing what's necessary to prevent the unnecessary deaths of your fellow citizens. Grow up!


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    #5243
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    LOCKDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    #5244
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    There are a number of stages in this fight against the virus - if we went into a full lockdown 2 weeks ago - then the virus wouldn't be spreading as fast and the hospitals wouldn't be busy - but the virus wouldn't go away, people would get restless and start to wander about 3 weeks and then you would get to week 6 and numbers would rocket - and then what - enforce another lockdown?

    The government have all the medical experts to hand - what have you got?


    Your one of these posters that has 20/20 vision and no matter what the government do you will find fault.

    Hang on, what have you got? Did you just make all that sh1t up or you got an expert on hand? Or a crystal ball?

    I've been calling for more action to sort this, people who defend the government have said that's wrong, the government are going the right way about it. Now the government have announced more action and those same people are saying how right they are. It's hilarious!


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    #5245
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Why doesn't your other half do the shopping on the way home? Even Leitrim has a Tesco they is open 6am -midnight.I'm working similar hours to him and I can still manage to get a shop in.
    They live in the middle of nowhere they said.


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    #5246
    BoatMad
    Registered Users Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    con747 wrote: »
    Can you read? My wife has the car. When she eventually gets home she spends 30 minutes making sure she has not brought the virus home because i have 3 underlying conditions. Now i have to hope strangers have the same regime with my shopping. Is that a good reason?

    It seems you can get shopping , yes , it’s not ideal , but then , nothing is right now.

    So what


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    Sean 18
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »
    Batman franchise is going to take a nosedive.

    How could somebody eating a bat cause the world to shut down you think the person would have got posioned not spread it around


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    #5248
    Alun
    Registered Users Posts: 21,434 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Strazdas wrote: »
    The 2km thing presumably applies to visits to supermarkets and pharmacies as well.
    No it doesn't, it only applies the exercise part.


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    #5249
    Heckler
    Registered Users Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭Heckler


    In all my years in my company we have never ever dealt in medical supplies. Now that the govt, has shut down everything guess what ? Now we do and are deemed essential, Bull**** of the highest order. **** you Dell you greedy *****.


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    #5250
    BoatMad
    Registered Users Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    s1ippy wrote: »
    They live in the middle of nowhere they said.

    Seemingly half of boards, live up a mountain peak , in Narnia .


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    #5251
    Be right back
    Registered Users Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭Be right back


    screamer wrote: »
    These restrictions might seem harsh but come on it’s nothing compared to that poor nurses plight. Poor woman RIP. There’s a family destroyed and a life gone forever. You’re being asked for 2 weeks holed up in your house, do it for her and the thousands like her who will be putting their lives on the line to save anyone who suffers this terrible virus. Reduce their risk, stay home so they get to go home alive.

    May she rest in peace.


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