CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

Need a Username · 27-03-2020 11:53PM

irishgeo wrote: »

The guards might disagree with you.

I’ve asked about that but other than snark I’ve not recurved an answer - unless it got lost the last few pages.

If that guy goes out for a run what are the the guards supposed to do about it? He is is on his own - unless he is hassling people then what harm.

I need to collect a couple of parcels tomorrow. Am I not allowed to walk to my sister’s house?

Purple Mountain · 27-03-2020 11:53PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

They have to put a date on these things, we all know its going to go on longer

I thought they put Easter Sunday on it so we would all be resurrected on that day

growleaves · 27-03-2020 11:53PM

A 2km run is about what a convicted murderer on 23-hour lockdown would get in the worst US prison.

Yet people here don't want anyone to go for a quick run even where they won't come into contact with anyone.

Most accidents happen in the home so spare us the BS about how you're more likely to need the emergency services when outdoors.

Need a Username · 27-03-2020 11:54PM

irishgeo wrote: »

The guards might disagree with you.

I’ve asked about that but other than snark I’ve not recurved an answer - unless it got lost the last few pages.

If that guy goes out for a run what are the the guards supposed to do about it? He is is on his own - unless he is hassling people then what harm.

I need to collect a couple of parcels tomorrow. Am I not allowed to walk to my sister’s house?

con747 · 27-03-2020 11:54PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

And now Paul, come on - you don't expect Con to get up and doing something worthwhile and positive during this outbreak do you?

Twat is all i can say.

theballz · 27-03-2020 11:54PM

Honestly I f**kin hate bats after all this.

Spanish Eyes · 27-03-2020 11:54PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Nice if you have a garden.

Yes, I and many others are fortunate that way. Sorry if I offended anyone. But even if in an apartment/flat you can walk 2k around the area.

It is just easier to be lazy with a garden. You can pretend you are doing your 10k steps but just cabbaging with the kindle.

Needs must and we have to adapt to the new normal.

thelad95 · 27-03-2020 11:54PM

They probably don't want to say it to prevent mass panic and fear mongering but I think checkpoints/blockades will become the norm for the next while.

JP Liz V1 · 27-03-2020 11:55PM

Whehey! wrote: »

Was there anything about hotels or guesthouses having more restrictions ?

Are they not all closed already?

BoatMad · 27-03-2020 11:55PM

con747 wrote: »

In my case my OH works in a sector that is vital so is doing 14-17 hour days since the beginning of the month 7 days a week. We are a 1 car household and her hours do not coincide with supermarket opening. So, I have to try get people i don't know to get my shopping is what has changed for me and numerous others in that boat. Also we live in the middle of nowhere with no nearby neighbours.

So how did you shop before , and what’s wrong with others shopping for a few weeks

kingshankly · 27-03-2020 11:55PM

Need a Username wrote: »

I’ve asked about that but other than snark I’ve not recurved an answer - unless it got lost the last few pages.

If that guy goes out for a run what are the the guards supposed to do about it? He is is on his own - unless he is hassling people then what harm.

I need to collect a couple of parcels tomorrow. Am I not allowed to walk to my sister’s house?

No pretty sure Leo mentioning your man off boards is allowed to walk to his sisters house

growleaves · 27-03-2020 11:55PM

Yes Leo's next big announcement we re going to weld up the doors to your house s like China and some people would say it's for the best

No they'd say it didn't go far enough and that he's too soft.

Need a Username · 27-03-2020 11:56PM

growleaves wrote: »

A 2km run is about what a convicted murderer on 23-hour lockdown would get in the worst US prison.

Yet people here don't want anyone to go for a quick run even where they won't come into contact with anyone.

Most accidents happen in the home so spare us the BS about how you're more likely to need the emergency services when outdoors.

I actually don’t understand the running and jogging.

I see people do it all the time and wonder do they know how stupid they look.

Whehey! · 27-03-2020 11:56PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Are they not all closed already?

Nope still open

MrMusician18 · 27-03-2020 11:56PM

Need a Username wrote: »

I’ve asked about that but other than snark I’ve not recurved an answer - unless it got lost the last few pages.

If that guy goes out for a run what are the the guards supposed to do about it? He is is on his own - unless he is hassling people then what harm.

I need to collect a couple of parcels tomorrow. Am I not allowed to walk to my sister’s house?

Do you really need the guards to tell you what to do? The instructions are to stay at home except for the reasons outlined, dozens of times on thread at this stage.

You are instructed to not make social calls to family.

Ace2007 · 27-03-2020 11:57PM

timhenn wrote: »

The lack of self-awareness is amazing! Up to a few short hours ago, there were people saying that the government were doing a great job. They were doing all they can and asking what more can they do?

Now, these same people are still saying what a great job the government are doing even though they have changed course. Do these people not have a brain of their own? Do they just follow blindly? No matter what the government say, they will agree it's the best move.

There are a number of stages in this fight against the virus - if we went into a full lockdown 2 weeks ago - then the virus wouldn't be spreading as fast and the hospitals wouldn't be busy - but the virus wouldn't go away, people would get restless and start to wander about 3 weeks and then you would get to week 6 and numbers would rocket - and then what - enforce another lockdown?

The government have all the medical experts to hand - what have you got?

Your one of these posters that has 20/20 vision and no matter what the government do you will find fault.

BoatMad · 27-03-2020 11:57PM

Need a Username wrote: »

I’ve asked about that but other than snark I’ve not recurved an answer - unless it got lost the last few pages.

If that guy goes out for a run what are the the guards supposed to do about it? He is is on his own - unless he is hassling people then what harm.

I need to collect a couple of parcels tomorrow. Am I not allowed to walk to my sister’s house?

I think you miss the whole point of this virus issue don’t yiu

fritzelly · 27-03-2020 11:57PM

con747 wrote: »

In my case my OH works in a sector that is vital so is doing 14-17 hour days since the beginning of the month 7 days a week. We are a 1 car household and her hours do not coincide with supermarket opening. So, I have to try get people i don't know to get my shopping is what has changed for me and numerous others in that boat. Also we live in the middle of nowhere with no nearby neighbours.

Local GAA, help groups - plenty of options out there if you look. They are not expecting people to starve

fritzelly · 27-03-2020 11:57PM

Whehey! wrote: »

Was there anything about hotels or guesthouses having more restrictions ?

They were already restricted to non tourist operations

Cilldara_2000 · 27-03-2020 11:57PM

BoatMad wrote: »

There will be massive long term economic damage from this , that’s one certainty , estimates are now aporaching -7% of GDP from a + 3-5 % pervious , that’s depression terrority

Did you quote my post but ignore everything other than the first few words I wrote? GDP for the year will be no indication of long term economic damage. GDP per quarter afterwards versus the same quarters in previous years will be. We can take a few quarters being absolute ****shows.

You can be no more certain about long term economic damage than I can be about next year's weather. You opinion is that there might be. It is no more than your opinion and I have no idea if you have any qualifications to make such a prediction. You don't know how markets will bounce back or not, what medium term packages from the EU and the ECB will be like, how quickly the show will get on the road again here and elsewhere and all the other variables than will have a huge impact on whether or not there will be long term economic damage.

spookwoman · 27-03-2020 11:58PM

Updated List of Essential Retail Outlets (27th March 2020)
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/625292-updated-list-of-essential-retail-outlets-27th-march-2020/

Essential retail outlets
1. Retail and wholesale sale of food, beverages and newspapers in non-specialised and specialised stores

2. Retail sale of household consumer products necessary to maintain the safety and sanitation of residences and businesses

3. Pharmacies/Chemists and retailers providing pharmaceuticals, pharmaceutical or dispensing services

4. Retail sale of selling medical and orthopaedic goods in specialised stores

5. Fuel stations and heating fuel providers

6. Retail sale of essential items for the health and welfare of animals, including animal feed and medicines, animal food, pet food and animal supplies including bedding

7. Laundries and Drycleaners

8. Banks, Post Offices and Credit Unions

9. Retail sale of safety supply stores (work clothes, Personal Protective Equipment, for example)

Businesses that can only offer emergency call-out or delivery services
It is recognised that there may be emergency needs arising in a number of areas, the following retailers who can offer an emergency call-out or delivery service can continue to operate on that basis ONLY:

opticians/optometrists
retailers involved in the repair of motor vehicles, motorcycles and bicycle repair and related facilities (tyre sales and repairs for example)
hardware stores, builder’s merchants and stores that provide hardware products necessary for home and business maintenance, sanitation and farm equipment, supplies and tools essential for gardening/farming/agriculture
retail sale of office products and services for individuals working from home and for businesses
retailers providing electrical, IT and phone sales, repair and maintenance services for home.
Physical distancing measures that must be adhered to
Essential Retail Outlets must implement physical distancing measures:-

ensure adequate distancing between customers and shop assistants in line with public health guidelines
only let people into the store in small groups and ensure spaces are not crowed.
manage queue control inside and outside the door to maintain necessary physical distance.
all Essential Retail Outlets are encouraged to provide online services where that is possible and appropriate to minimise footfall.

fritzelly · 27-03-2020 11:58PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

How do you view the latest county by county breakdown for Ireland please?

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/3e14cb-an-analysis-of-the-1639-cases-of-covid-19-in-ireland-as-of-wednesday/

https://coronavirus-ireland.com/map.php

27-03-2020 11:58PM

con747 wrote: »

In my case my OH works in a sector that is vital so is doing 14-17 hour days since the beginning of the month 7 days a week. We are a 1 car household and her hours do not coincide with supermarket opening. So, I have to try get people i don't know to get my shopping is what has changed for me and numerous others in that boat. Also we live in the middle of nowhere with no nearby neighbours.

Why doesn't your other half do the shopping on the way home? Even Leitrim has a Tesco they is open 6am -midnight.I'm working similar hours to them and I can still manage to get a shop in.

Strazdas · 27-03-2020 11:58PM

Alun wrote: »

There is no "2km" limit, where are you getting this from? You're allowed to exercise within a 2km radius of your home. Two totally different things.

The 2km thing presumably applies to visits to supermarkets and pharmacies as well. A person from Tallaght is not supposed to be driving to Ballymun or the city centre to do their grocery shopping......the general understanding I took from the Taoiseach's address is that people are expected largely to remain in their own area for the next fortnight.

optimusgrime · 27-03-2020 11:58PM

Just wondering, I'm assuming An Post/Other couriers will still be delivering orders, ie if I order from Amazon I could still receive parcels etc?

retro:electro · 27-03-2020 11:58PM

So are the Guards going to be stopping people asking where they’re going or how exactly is this going to be policed? Is it just up to us all to comply and then Guards will intervene when measures are clearly not being adhered to? What’s to stop Dave saying he’s going to Tesco to do his mother’s shopping 5k away and then stopping on his way home for an hours run. Who is actually going to be monitoring this?

Sean 18 · 27-03-2020 11:58PM

Your right Leo will say next we re all vectors of this disease and we all should do a Jim Jones

Ace2007 · 27-03-2020 11:59PM

BoatMad wrote: »

There will be massive long term economic damage from this , that’s one certainty , estimates are now aporaching -7% of GDP from a + 3-5 % pervious , that’s depression terrority

Is there any country that won't be affected? There is still a high % of the workforce still working despite all the gloom and doom

Signore Fancy Pants · 28-03-2020 12:00AM

theballz wrote: »

Honestly I f**kin hate bats after all this.

Batman franchise is going to take a nosedive.

Monumental · 28-03-2020 12:00AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think you miss my point. My run will now be on busy paths where distancing is impossible, whereas up until today it has been me in isolation. So in my specific case I am now more at risk of spreading the virus. I’m not going to not run (as I am allowed to do, despite your ‘stay at home’ protestations)

Your grandparents or great grandparents were asked to go to war ,you are being asked to stay at home . It really isn't all about you and your run

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03