CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

FVP3 · 27-03-2020 01:51PM

cloudatlas wrote: »

I can use other examples if you like Norway, Finland, Singapore....

New Zealand is a top tourist destination which is close to Australia.

It's not a top tourist destination by European standards. It would be near the bottom of the European table of visitors, less than twice the numbers for Ireland, although it is more than twice the size.

wakka12 · 27-03-2020 01:51PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Coveney:

Gosh nothin too subtle about that

cnocbui · 27-03-2020 01:51PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Did you even read the article you posted? The article post date is from June, meaning Ireland had 3.8 million from January up to June. The 3.8 million figure is not for the entire year of 2018..."The new figures, released on Wednesday, show the State had a total of 3.8 million visitors from overseas so far this year"

Ireland had 11 million tourist in 2019 https://www.newstalk.com/news/11-million-tourists-estimated-visited-ireland-2019-939569

No I didn't read the full article because there was block on displaying the full page without subscribing, so I concede the point that you were correct.

Gynoid · 27-03-2020 01:51PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It doesn't just stay on the gloves though. People can reach into their pockets or handbags with the gloves on after touching stuff. They will touch their clothes they're wearing in some way as well. So it's providing a false sense of security.

Nothing is perfect. I wear gloves to shop, and roll up my sleeves to elbow and pretend I am scrubbed up like a doctor or nurse. That way you are conscious about what you touch. Remove properly and bin at exit. Leave what shopping you can in a closed box in shed or unused room for 3 days, wipe down the rest.
In fact if I have to be out for work, which unfortunately I do

, I roll up my sleeves to elbow. No trailing of cuffs, plus way more conscious of hands.

murpho999 · 27-03-2020 01:51PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Tomorrow Aer Lingus are flying 9 flights from London, 3 from Amsterdam and 1 from New York. And that will continue daily for the foreseeable future.
We haven't a hope of flattening the curve. A month from now we will be in serious sh*t.

How many people are on the flights?

People are going on about flights but the virus is in the community.

Why can't that be accepted?

iwillyeah1234 · 27-03-2020 01:52PM

thegills wrote: »

COVID19 came into Ireland from N.Italy. Government should have immediately shut down the country from Italy.

China has completely shut down all flights again - too many cases coming in from abroad.

paul71 · 27-03-2020 01:53PM

Cupatae wrote: »

See people are naming and shaming all the companies that let workers go during the crisis.

Do you expect companies who have zero revenue to pay staff. How does that work?

wakka12 · 27-03-2020 01:53PM

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/24/national/tokyo-governor-urges-cooperation-avoid-city-lockdown/#.Xn0kU9VxU0N
Lockdown of Tokyo being considered as second wave epidemic gathers pace

kilkenny31 · 27-03-2020 01:54PM

otnomart wrote: »

That would be a shame.
Germany has taken some patients from France, for example.

Logistically that's a lot simpler tho. Like residents of North West France being transferred over the border into Germany is a lot easier than flying critically ill people from Ireland to the UK.

Away With The Fairies · 27-03-2020 01:54PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Tomorrow Aer Lingus are flying 9 flights from London, 3 from Amsterdam and 1 from New York. And that will continue daily for the foreseeable future.
We haven't a hope of flattening the curve. A month from now we will be in serious sh*t.

Great, and our ICUs are almost full.

iwillyeah1234 · 27-03-2020 01:54PM

Cupatae wrote: »

See people are naming and shaming all the companies that let workers go during the crisis.

GOOD

they don't have to fire them - put them into "furlough" , and possibly not pay them - but at least they'll have a job when this is over.

threeball · 27-03-2020 01:55PM

16yr old french girl becomes Europes youngest know victim with no underlying health issues

https://www.france24.com/en/20200327-16-year-old-girl-becomes-france-s-youngest-coronavirus-victim

paul71 · 27-03-2020 01:55PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

GOOD

they don't have to fire them - put them into "furlough" , and possibly not pay them - but at least they'll have a job when this is over.

If the company is still there to come back to.

Cupatae · 27-03-2020 01:55PM

paul71 wrote: »

Do you expect companies who have zero revenue to pay staff. How does that work?

Did i say that? try not to take offense to everything.

Im merely saying i see loads of people naming and shaming and articles on facebook, people are pissed.

tobefrank321 · 27-03-2020 01:55PM

murpho999 wrote: »

How many people are on the flights?

People are going on about flights but the virus is in the community.

Why can't that be accepted?

Exactly. No-one knows. No-one knows how many are on these flights, if they are infected or where they are headed. They are coming from cities which are hugely infected.

To think some of them aren't infected themselves is naïve.

We are just introducing new cases daily. Madness.

The more you introduce, the harder it gets due to the exponential spread.

spookwoman · 27-03-2020 01:55PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

May have missed it - was the deaths all from one nursing home?

Only nursing home death I know of was sunday at Elmgreen Nursing Home in Castleknock. Info in the papers

timhenn · 27-03-2020 01:55PM

Deaths in countries with around 6 million population:

Denmark 52
Ireland 19
Norway 16
Finland 5
Singapore 2
Costa Rica 2
Palestine 1
Liberia 0
New Zealand 0
Congo 0
Oman 0
Slovakia 0

Denamrk doing really bad. We're not doing great.

iwillyeah1234 · 27-03-2020 01:56PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Tomorrow Aer Lingus are flying 9 flights from London, 3 from Amsterdam and 1 from New York. And that will continue daily for the foreseeable future.
We haven't a hope of flattening the curve. A month from now we will be in serious sh*t.

London, Amsterdam, New York

three of the biggest Corona outbreaks right now - especially New York!!!

what the hell are they playing at???

cnocbui · 27-03-2020 01:56PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

He just reads the headline and then posts incorrect information:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: Yourself.

Beasty · 27-03-2020 01:56PM

cnocbui wrote: »

In 2018, NZ had 3.82 million tourists visit while Ireland had 3.8 million.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/tourists-visits-to-ireland-up-7-6-in-2018-1.3545808?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Flife-and-style%2Ftravel%2Ftourists-visits-to-ireland-up-7-6-in-2018-1.3545808

https://www.stats.govt.nz/news/annual-visitor-arrivals-up-more-than-1-2-million-in-five-years

Don't think Auckland has 60+ flights a day to London. The majority of visitors to Ireland are not "tourists", and it's connectivity to Europe and North America results in massively more exposure to individuals travelling from high risk areas

Jim Gazebo · 27-03-2020 01:58PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

London, Amsterdam, New York

three of the biggest Corona outbreaks right now - especially New York!!!

what the hell are they playing at???

Who do you think will be on these flights let's be honest it's nine packed planes ffs

stephenjmcd · 27-03-2020 01:58PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Tomorrow Aer Lingus are flying 9 flights from London, 3 from Amsterdam and 1 from New York. And that will continue daily for the foreseeable future.
We haven't a hope of flattening the curve. A month from now we will be in serious sh*t.

Why do you keep banging on about flights in every post.

The flights are virtually empty and at this point are still going for cargo reasons.

Theres no bus operator, aircoach etc running to the airport, daa operations are at a minimum. Its empty

ZX7R · 27-03-2020 01:58PM

Seamai wrote: »

I notice the overall tone here is turning quite negative here in the last day or two, some who were praising the powers that be a short few days ago are now turning on them. We knew they would be deaths in the high risk groups, yes the new cases are increasing but if that can be kept down to a reasonable rate it may be possible to manage it. It might be no harm if we all spent a bit less time on here and on our phones in general, being a bit more careful where we take our information from and taking time out to chill and do something we enjoy.

Stay safe everyone.

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tobefrank321 · 27-03-2020 01:59PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Great, and our ICUs are almost full.

We are a few weeks away from having to decide who gets ventilators as is. Some counties have only one or two ventilators.

Tacitus Kilgore · 27-03-2020 01:59PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Why do you keep banging on about flights in every post.

The flights are virtually empty and at this point are still going for cargo reasons.

Theres no bus operator, aircoach etc running to the airport, daa operations are at a minimum. Its empty

He reeeeally hates planes, posting obsessively for XI threads now, and probably more beforehand. :pac:

shesty · 27-03-2020 01:59PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I agree. There are some who seem to think that we can carry this on until we have a vaccine. We will get back to a semblance of normality before we have a vaccThe only reason for these measures is the heath service capacity. If we had unlimited capacity there would be zero need for any measures....we could just let it run unchecked.

Yes, the vaccine is the long term solution.What is happening now is short/medium term solution essentially.Am not paying too much attention to the vaccine side of things myself as it won't solve the problem right now, which is mainly trying not to overwhelm the health system.But the numbers will stay, and continue to grow for the very short term; once we keep the growth rates low, it is possible the death rate can be managed to a certain degree and there is some degree of containment to it all.For now.

iwillyeah1234 · 27-03-2020 01:59PM

paul71 wrote: »

If the company is still there to come back to.

they can go into hibernation. there are ways of doing this. if the bank/landlord doesn't play ball, the company can call on the government to help out and put the foot down, so to speak.

Naos · 27-03-2020 02:00PM

cnocbui wrote: »

No I didn't read the full article because there was block on displaying the full page without subscribing, so I concede the point that you were correct.

You didn't even have to read the full article, it's the second sentence which you can see without subscribing:

"The new figures, released on Wednesday, show the State had a total of 3.8 million visitors from overseas so far this year."

tobefrank321 · 27-03-2020 02:00PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Why do you keep banging on about flights in every post.

The flights are virtually empty and at this point are still going for cargo reasons.

Theres no bus operator, aircoach etc running to the airport, daa operations are at a minimum. Its empty

Because no-one is listening. They didn't listen when it came to Italian flights - And people died because of that stupidity. Numerous people.

murpho999 · 27-03-2020 02:00PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Exactly. No-one knows. No-one knows how many are on these flights, if they are infected or where they are headed. They are coming from cities which are hugely infected.

To think some of them aren't infected themselves is naïve.

We are just introducing new cases daily. Madness.

The more you introduce, the harder it gets due to the exponential spread.

My point is that the flights are not full.

Have you not heard the reports. People are not travelling. Have you not seen how empty the airport is.

You're making it sound like other places are 100% infected.

Also, all people travellng into the country, regardless of where they come from are being told to self-isolate for 14 days.

Either way, it's not the biggest issue now.

Numbers spreading it further amongst the community is the problem now. That's where the virus is.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03