CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

timhenn · 27-03-2020 02:39PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Norway is the most comparable of them, Norway has more cases

Why is Norway more comparable than the other 2?

Norway has less deaths.
Finland only has 5 deaths.
Singapore only 2!

paul71 · 27-03-2020 02:40PM

cloudatlas wrote: »

I can use other examples if you like Norway, Finland, Singapore....

New Zealand is a top tourist destination which is close to Australia.

And Australia is in itself Isolated, if I were looking at Islands to compare us to I would be looking at somewhere like Costa Rico in about 2 weeks given that they are on the edge of a continent with allbeit a smaller population and one that is about 2 weeks behind europe in terms of its initial infections. They also have no visa requirements with the US as is the situation with Ireland and the EU.

Ace2007 · 27-03-2020 02:40PM

billyhead wrote: »

Just wondering. I live on my own and am working remotely from home. I have no interaction with people since we were told to work from home. I have been out for daily walks and also to get groceries not. My parents are aged over 70. Before all this happened I would visit them every Sunday. Would I be a threat l to their health. Should I keep on maintaining my distance and not visiting them and for how long should I have to keep my distance? Do I have to wait possibly months until this all blows over?

yes you have to wait - maybe try facetime/skype if possible.

cnocbui · 27-03-2020 02:40PM

Drumpot wrote: »

Or a UK or a Spain or a France or more then one country that many of its population visit regularly. Australia is so sparsely populated, its hardly comparable with some of Europes biggest citys.

Not just that, the political fallout of closing borders with Northern Ireland are bigger then people are making out. It could do untold damage to the Northern relations.

And then there is our relationship and free movement agreements within the EU. I am not sure how well it would go down if we arbitrarily made big decisions that could impact other communities.

I like the way our authorities have closed things down in stages and taken extra steps/decisions as they felt were needed. I feel this whole "they should close everything or stop all flights" is kind of panic talk, particularly if this is going to go on for months or maybe even a year or two. There is no benefit to closing every single thing (including flights from everywhere) if we are going to have to have scattered openings and closures over the next 18 months.

Australia is highly urbanized, with 21million of it's 25 mil population living in cities and urban areas. It's a lot more urbanized than Ireland, being about 85% vs 62%.

Freedom of movement in the EU can be curtailed by member states for national security or public health reasons.

Countries don't tend to tie their own hands with regulations when it comes to national security or major crises.

FVP3 · 27-03-2020 02:40PM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Right I've chosen a country with a similar population size to Ireland New Zealand: So New Zealand have 368 cases 0 deaths and 37 recovered

Ireland has 1,819 cases 19 deaths 5 recovered.

What have Ireland done wrong? New Zealand should close their boarders to Ireland as it is clearly out of control there.

New Zealand is pretty remote. Were it not for that cluster in the nursing home, deaths here would be fairly low.

RugbyLad11 · 27-03-2020 02:41PM

You cannot compare Ireland and New Zealand.

1) For one Ireland receives millions more tourist each year

2) Ireland is tech capital of Europe, with pretty much every big tech company having a presence here. This leads to a lot of people travelling for business and makes Dublin a lot more international

jaykay74 · 27-03-2020 02:41PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

lefty "liberal" scum showing their usual compassion by gloating about Boris getting the CV19 ....

I havent seen any posts here like that.

murpho999 · 27-03-2020 02:42PM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Right I've chosen a country with a similar population size to Ireland New Zealand: So New Zealand have 368 cases 0 deaths and 37 recovered

Ireland has 1,819 cases 19 deaths 5 recovered.

What have Ireland done wrong? New Zealand should close their boarders to Ireland as it is clearly out of control there.

Why New Zealand? It's totally remote.

What about Denmark. Population 5.6m. Cases 1,957, Deaths 52.

Norway, Population: 5.3m, Cases 3,655, Deaths 16.

They are more comparable to me.

timhenn · 27-03-2020 02:42PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

You cannot compare Ireland and New Zealand.

1) For one Ireland receives millions more tourist each year

2) Ireland is tech capital of Europe, with pretty much every big tech company having a presence here. This leads to a lot of people travelling for business and makes Dublin a lot more international

Pity there's not something that can be done about flights entering a state?

Ace2007 · 27-03-2020 02:43PM

FVP3 wrote: »

New Zealand is pretty remote. Were it not for that cluster in the nursing home, deaths here would be fairly low.

May have missed it - was the deaths all from one nursing home?

murpho999 · 27-03-2020 02:43PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

You cannot compare Ireland and New Zealand.

1) For one Ireland receives millions more tourist each year

2) Ireland is tech capital of Europe, with pretty much every big tech company having a presence here. This leads to a lot of people travelling for business and makes Dublin a lot more international

You just did compare them.

munsterlegend · 27-03-2020 02:43PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

May have missed it - was the deaths all from one nursing home?

We don’t know. That information is not released yet.

otnomart · 27-03-2020 02:44PM

ZX7R wrote: »

Leo reckons our ICU beds will be full in a matter of days.
Rte breaking news

Very worrying.
Are there plans in place to transfer patients to the UK, I wonder ?

cnocbui · 27-03-2020 02:44PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

You cannot compare Ireland and New Zealand.

1) For one Ireland receives millions more tourist each year

2) Ireland is tech capital of Europe, with pretty much every big tech company having a presence here. This leads to a lot of people travelling for business and makes Dublin a lot more international

In 2018, NZ had 3.82 million tourists visit while Ireland had 3.8 million.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/tourists-visits-to-ireland-up-7-6-in-2018-1.3545808?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Flife-and-style%2Ftravel%2Ftourists-visits-to-ireland-up-7-6-in-2018-1.3545808

https://www.stats.govt.nz/news/annual-visitor-arrivals-up-more-than-1-2-million-in-five-years

eagle eye · 27-03-2020 02:44PM

FVP3 wrote:

Were it not for that cluster in the nursing home, deaths here would be fairly low.

You are saying that now with very little information on how widespread this is.
We have lots of idiots in this country who were going around like nothing was wrong even in the early part of this week.
We will be lucky if we don't hit 100k cases and 2k deaths in the next couple of weeks.

iwillyeah1234 · 27-03-2020 02:44PM

billyhead wrote: »

Just wondering. I live on my own and am working remotely from home. I have no interaction with people since we were told to work from home. I have been out for daily walks and also to get groceries not. My parents are aged over 70. Before all this happened I would visit them every Sunday. Would I be a threat l to their health. Should I keep on maintaining my distance and not visiting them and for how long should I have to keep my distance? Do I have to wait possibly months until this all blows over?

YES - because they are over 70, you can't visit them. The risk is just too great for that cohort of society.

You've no way of knowing yet if you may have caught it - you could have touched a door handle , or a railing , or touched a food item, during your grocery shopping.

PaybackPayroll · 27-03-2020 02:44PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It doesn't just stay on the gloves though. People can reach into their pockets or handbags with the gloves on after touching stuff. They will touch their clothes they're wearing in some way as well. So it's providing a false sense of security.

I'm a glove wearer.

They do not give me any sense of security. I go to the shop once every two weeks and wear gloves. I then take off the gloves and use sanitiser. Then as soon as I get in I wash my hands. Finally, handles, inside of car etc is wiped down with wipes.

I do find that I do not touch my face when wearing the gloves.

Wearing gloves reduces the risk, but does not eliminate it. I'll take any risk reduction.

wakka12 · 27-03-2020 02:45PM

otnomart wrote: »

Very worrying.
Are there plans in place to transfer patients to the UK, I wonder ?

Doubt they will accept them seeing as they are already at crisis point in the capital

Kermit.de.frog · 27-03-2020 02:45PM

Coveney:

Mr Coveney said the emergency Covid-19 legislation would be the most important ever passed in the House.

He said yesterday was the darkest day of the emergency so far for us with ten deaths.

He said we have to brace ourselves for a lot worse and said this "invisible enemy" was only beginning its spread through our country.

He says that while Brexit was a fight for citizens and livelihoods, this is now a fight for citizens lives.

The Tanaiste said we are being confronted with a once in a century crisis and he said the public expects politicians to do their jobs and to protect them.

iwillyeah1234 · 27-03-2020 02:46PM

otnomart wrote: »

Very worrying.
Are there plans in place to transfer patients to the UK, I wonder ?

The Brits themselves don't have enough capacity. Hence the requisition of the enormous ExCel exhibition centre in London - is being converted to "NHS Nightingale" with capacity for 4,000 covid19 patients.

murpho999 · 27-03-2020 02:47PM

otnomart wrote: »

Very worrying.
Are there plans in place to transfer patients to the UK, I wonder ?

Why would they do that and why would the UK take them?

They're struggling too and it will get worse there.

RugbyLad11 · 27-03-2020 02:47PM

cnocbui wrote: »

In 2018, NZ had 3.82 million tourists visit while Ireland had 3.8 million.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/tourists-visits-to-ireland-up-7-6-in-2018-1.3545808?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Flife-and-style%2Ftravel%2Ftourists-visits-to-ireland-up-7-6-in-2018-1.3545808

https://www.stats.govt.nz/news/annual-visitor-arrivals-up-more-than-1-2-million-in-five-years

Did you even read the article you posted? The article post date is from June, meaning Ireland had 3.8 million from January up to June. The 3.8 million figure is not for the entire year of 2018..."The new figures, released on Wednesday, show the State had a total of 3.8 million visitors from overseas so far this year"

Ireland had 11 million tourist in 2019 https://www.newstalk.com/news/11-million-tourists-estimated-visited-ireland-2019-939569

cnocbui · 27-03-2020 02:48PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

lefty "liberal" scum showing their usual compassion by gloating about Boris getting the CV19 ....

I am partially lefty liberal and take exception to you inferring I am scum. Who wouldn't gloat at Boris getting it, he's not likely to suffer particularly given his age, and he was an utter prat taking the herd immunity, you lot can just die approach.

tobefrank321 · 27-03-2020 02:48PM

Tomorrow Aer Lingus are flying 9 flights from London, 3 from Amsterdam and 1 from New York. And that will continue daily for the foreseeable future.
We haven't a hope of flattening the curve. A month from now we will be in serious sh*t.

otnomart · 27-03-2020 02:48PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Doubt they will accept them seeing as they are already at crisis point in the capital

That would be a shame.
Germany has taken some patients from France, for example.

paul71 · 27-03-2020 02:49PM

cnocbui wrote: »

In 2018, NZ had 3.82 million tourists visit while Ireland had 3.8 million.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/tourists-visits-to-ireland-up-7-6-in-2018-1.3545808?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Flife-and-style%2Ftravel%2Ftourists-visits-to-ireland-up-7-6-in-2018-1.3545808

https://www.stats.govt.nz/news/annual-visitor-arrivals-up-more-than-1-2-million-in-five-years

No wrong read what you quoted 11.2 million

thegills · 27-03-2020 02:49PM

cnocbui wrote:

In 2018, NZ had 3.82 million tourists visit while Ireland had 3.8 million.

COVID19 came into Ireland from N.Italy. Government should have immediately shut down the country from Italy.

Cupatae · 27-03-2020 02:49PM

See people are naming and shaming all the companies that let workers go during the crisis.

RugbyLad11 · 27-03-2020 02:50PM

paul71 wrote: »

No wrong read what you quoted 11.2 million

He just reads the headline and then posts incorrect information:rolleyes:

iwillyeah1234 · 27-03-2020 02:51PM

interesting call on Joe Duffy right now - caller's Dad has died, and they are unsure if it was covid19. Mortuary won't release him until the corona test comes back.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03