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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Yes but the group must keep social distancing. People have to take responsibility themselves on this.

    I don't think 'herd immunity' is any part of the Irish thinking at all.

    Britain and Netherlands did and it has failed.

    I thought the U.K. was subsequently told to move away from that plan and they stopped but that the Netherlands are still doing it?

    Being slow to move which is what happened everywhere is essentially 'herd immunity'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭lobbylad


    Tea Shock wrote: »
    5. Is Johnny's car/vehicle temperature controlled? Can't have cold-chain perishables sitting in the back of a car on a sunny day.
    - Unnecessary for individual delivers. Nobody brings their shopping home in a temperature controlled vehicle

    Not the same, when you bring your groceries home in your car, you have already bought them, they are yours to transport however you please.

    When Tesco delivery them, they are not yours until they are delivered, Tesco is responsible for ensuring their quality for the journey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,200 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    UK health secretary has coronavirus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Portugal records it's highest daily total so far of 740, and 16 deaths


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Bojo must be furious after his father he came back from the pub reeking with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    musing on this - if I am at home with my wife, and I have a tiny bit of a cough and a very minor sore throat on and off, and my wife is fine, if it was corona would she not have it by now (assuming noT asymptomatic), or is it safe to say that it isn't therefore corona. If that makes sense! (No fever)

    Call your doctor and tel him/her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,200 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Portugal records it's highest daily total so far of 740, and 16 deaths

    Not surprising. Their neighbour's house is on fire. Hopefully just smoke damage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    musing on this - if I am at home with my wife, and I have a tiny bit of a cough and a very minor sore throat on and off, and my wife is fine, if it was corona would she not have it by now (assuming noT asymptomatic), or is it safe to say that it isn't therefore corona. If that makes sense! (No fever)


    It's not an absolute guarantee that you would infect your wife with coronavirus if you had it - there's a good chance, but no guarantee at all. She / you may also be asymptomatic and infective.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Matt Hancock is riddled and all

    Yip....tested positive too.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    UK health secretary has coronavirus

    Was that not reported a while ago or is this another member?

    Edit: minister for health (Dorries) was the earlier case I was thinking of


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Gentleman Off The Pitch


    Firstly, he suggested that we should give up testing for covid and forget contact tracing, which is just totally wrong at this point. To slow the spread we need good testing and isolation protocols in line with South Korea, Singapore, China and Taiwan.

    He was suggesting we should move to antibody testing at this stage which makes absolutely no sense, we have literally 5 people confirmed people who have recovered from the illness compared to nearly 2,000 people confirmed sick. Sick people generally show symptoms so are easier to identify. How at this point are we going to go about finding the bare few people who have had and recovered from the virus and what good does it do us?

    He then apparently advocated a two tier system whereby recovered people go about their daily lives where the rest stay locked up. Impossible to manage and provides an incentive for people to get the virus for their 'pass'.

    Finally he said Africa was the place to watch. A continent with by far the lowest population of elderly and a place where they already grapple with all manner of deadlier diseases and causes of death. It is countries like India, Turkey, Mexico and Brazil that are the places to watch, granted a few North African states will suffer badly.

    He was touting vaccines by September and Trump's favourite untested drug a week ago, he's touting some antibody transfer system this time around.

    He is simply infuriating.
    At least he's moved on from his nothing much to see here views on the virus from Februrary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    People in leadership positions need to work from home where possible.

    Looking towards Leo and Simon Harris. Surely Govt can do their business online.

    That includes media interviews. It is not a time we need to have key people getting unwell.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Was that not reported a while ago or is this another member?

    The junior health minister had it, but as far as I know, is recovered now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,869 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Matt Hancock is riddled and all

    A lot of prominent people seem to have been very careless about this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Yea, I'm conscious that I haven't seen any posts from Graces7 for a while, given her underlying conditions I too am concerned by her silence. Fervently hoping she's ok out there in on her atlantic island.

    I emailed her earlier and checked her blog. She posted something 3 days ago so maybe she has just taken a break from boards for awhile.

    Fingers crossed shes OK.

    I was chatting with Graces on PM a few weeks ago and at the time I dont think people were realizing on this Covid19 thread how insensitive it was to suggest Older people should just stay in doors and life should go on for the rest of us. I couldn't believe the arguments I was having with people talking about basically "old people being old so they are gonna die anyways, why should the economy suffer" kind of discussions.

    Really was so sad to see people being so dismissive of the older/vulnerable population. But its good to see a more united and empathetic approach being shown by most at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Our testing approach is different.

    We closed things down 10-14 days ahead of them That's more than slight.
    Testing strategy also very different.

    Their population is denser than ours so that time difference is huge and given the virus more time to multiply among the masses.

    Ireland has not shown any signs of a herd immunity approach.

    Time will tell but I predict the death rate per 100,000 people will be much larger in the UK than here.

    Right I've chosen a country with a similar population size to Ireland New Zealand: So New Zealand have 368 cases 0 deaths and 37 recovered

    Ireland has 1,819 cases 19 deaths 5 recovered.

    What have Ireland done wrong? New Zealand should close their boarders to Ireland as it is clearly out of control there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,200 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The Netherlands reporting both it's highest new case and new daily deaths count so far

    1,172 new cases and 112 new releated deaths


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    The junior health minister had it, but as far as I know, is recovered now.

    Nadine Dorries. Notable for her history of very woolly takes on health and science overall.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Over 25,000 people have died from Covid-19 now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Right I've chosen a country with a similar population size to Ireland New Zealand: So New Zealand have 368 cases 0 deaths and 37 recovered

    Ireland has 1,819 cases 19 deaths 5 recovered.

    What have Ireland done wrong? New Zealand should close their boarders to Ireland as it is clearly out of control there.
    Lots of nz schools going skiing to italy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Lots of nz schools going skiing to italy?

    Ah now the shoe is on the other foot.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Can someone explain to me why people are going about the place wearing gloves. Ok, you might want to keep your hands clean but why did I see someone wearing gloves and smoking a fag at the same time? Are people really that clueless? It's hand washing and not touching your face is the most important thing to be doing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Right I've chosen a country with a similar population size to Ireland New Zealand: So New Zealand have 368 cases 0 deaths and 37 recovered

    Ireland has 1,819 cases 19 deaths 5 recovered.

    What have Ireland done wrong? New Zealand should close their boarders to Ireland as it is clearly out of control there.

    More travel/transit in and out of here. Even if its short term trips.

    Kiwi people don't have a Northern Italy close by.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,690 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    I don't know any oven which can go as low as 70 degrees celsius or 158 degrees fahrenheit

    Just checked mine and it starts at 50c weirdly. That's colder than my dryer 😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    More travel/transit in and out of here. Even if its short term trips.

    Kiwi people don't have a Northern Italy close by.

    Same applies to the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    musing on this - if I am at home with my wife, and I have a tiny bit of a cough and a very minor sore throat on and off, and my wife is fine, if it was corona would she not have it by now (assuming noT asymptomatic), or is it safe to say that it isn't therefore corona. If that makes sense! (No fever)

    It can incubate for 14 days so she could have it but not have developed symptoms yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Right I've chosen a country with a similar population size to Ireland New Zealand: So New Zealand have 368 cases 0 deaths and 37 recovered

    Ireland has 1,819 cases 19 deaths 5 recovered.

    What have Ireland done wrong? New Zealand should close their boarders to Ireland as it is clearly out of control there.

    They've already closed their borders to everyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    Would love to be a fly on the wall at the testing lab when Mr. Tubridy's test results come in........

    You'd certainly get more than you bargained for swabbing the noses of most RTE personalities. The resale value might make it worthwhile doing a targeted mass screening there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Right I've chosen a country with a similar population size to Ireland New Zealand: So New Zealand have 368 cases 0 deaths and 37 recovered

    Ireland has 1,819 cases 19 deaths 5 recovered.

    What have Ireland done wrong? New Zealand should close their boarders to Ireland as it is clearly out of control there.

    New Zealand is a lot more isolated than Ireland with much less travel to and from there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Leo reckons our ICU beds will be full in a matter of days.
    Rte breaking news


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