I want a shutdown NOW!

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

In the specific case, not much. If everyone goes to go do whatever they want to do then we might as well forget the point of the lockdown in the first place.

We're supposed to say home to prevent the spread - even when we would prefer to be out and about.

Instead of looking for ways to go out and about and do whatever we want, this thing would be much more successful if we just play ball.

I get you. While I'm saying all this, I do want to be clear, I am making an effort. I am taking this seriously. There's a LOT of things I've wanted to do but have not been able to. I'm supposed to be out of the country on holiday right now, but got over that fairly quickly because in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. There's friends I've been dying to see for weeks, and that's been put on hold obviously. Outside of the people I live with and the odd work colleague before the office shut down, my contact has been minimal. It's a pain, but necessary. I'm not looking to bend any rules for the craic here, and my hands are scrubbed MANY times a day. I've been to the shop once this week and will likely not need to until early next week. I won't, again, to minimise contact and try do my bit to halt the spread of the virus.

But surely people simply being outside is not doing any harm, despite what people seem to be saying. We're all scared. None of us know how this is really going to play out. We all have people we are worried about and rightly so. People seem to be forgetting, the directives from our own authorities are not the same as in other countries. We have not actually been told not to leave the house, and in fact exercise etc is encouraged as long as it's done safely. This, to me seems like a really sensible approach.

I just genuinely feel like this is getting to people more than they maybe even realise, and while I understand that, I do feel laying off on the hysteria would honestly help things. This was the point I was trying to make in my first post in this thread. There's a real horrible atmosphere brewing where everyone is scrutinising everyone else, sometimes rather unfairly in my opinion, and I can only put this down to fear. Going to throw on half a tinfoil hat there (not really) and say that I think total lockdown as per Italy, Spain, and to a lesser extent, the UK, has happened because the situations in those countries deteriorated rapidly after government inaction and public apathy and now that **** is really hitting the fan, it has to be seen that measures are taken. It seems like some people are really wishing for this to be case here, and I'm sure if was necessary to actually make the situation better, it would have been done, but from my understanding, we've had somewhat of a head start with our measures. People are being driven insane by the realisation that you ultimately cannot control the actions of others, and out of lack of faith that people will do the right thing, you get threads like this where demands are made for harsh enforcement, so that they feel they've done all they can to control this.

While out EXERCISING IN THE FRESH AIR ALONE today, I noticed 99% of people I came across observing good social distancing practice. It was fairly reassuring tbh, with almost everyone respecting each others' space and anxieties. If you go by what's said online however, you'd swear everyone is carrying on as normal.

Again, I DO care about trying to do our best against this. Some level-headedness would be appreciated though. If the data says I'm full of ****, so be it, I'll update my stance accordingly!

Herb Powell wrote: »

I get you. While I'm saying all this, I do want to be clear, I am making an effort. I am taking this seriously. There's a LOT of things I've wanted to do but have not been able to. I'm supposed to be out of the country on holiday right now, but got over that fairly quickly because in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. There's friends I've been dying to see for weeks, and that's been put on hold obviously. Outside of the people I live with and the odd work colleague before the office shut down, my contact has been minimal. It's a pain, but necessary. I'm not looking to bend any rules for the craic here, and my hands are scrubbed MANY times a day. I've been to the shop once this week and will likely not need to until early next week. I won't, again, to minimise contact and try do my bit to halt the spread of the virus.

But surely people simply being outside is not doing any harm, despite what people seem to be saying. We're all scared. None of us know how this is really going to play out. We all have people we are worried about and rightly so. People seem to be forgetting, the directives from our own authorities are not the same as in other countries. We have not actually been told not to leave the house, and in fact exercise etc is encouraged as long as it's done safely. This, to me seems like a really sensible approach.

I just genuinely feel like this is getting to people more than they maybe even realise, and while I understand that, I do feel laying off on the hysteria would honestly help things. This was the point I was trying to make in my first post in this thread. There's a real horrible atmosphere brewing where everyone is scrutinising everyone else, sometimes rather unfairly in my opinion, and I can only put this down to fear. Going to throw on half a tinfoil hat there (not really) and say that I think total lockdown as per Italy, Spain, and to a lesser extent, the UK, has happened because the situations in those countries deteriorated rapidly after government inaction and public apathy and now that **** is really hitting the fan, it has to be seen that measures are taken. It seems like some people are really wishing for this to be case here, and I'm sure if was necessary to actually make the situation better, it would have been done, but from my understanding, we've had somewhat of a head start with our measures. People are being driven insane by the realisation that you ultimately cannot control the actions of others, and out of lack of faith that people will do the right thing, you get threads like this where demands are made for harsh enforcement, so that they feel they've done all they can to control this.

While out EXERCISING IN THE FRESH AIR ALONE today, I noticed 99% of people I came across observing good social distancing practice. It was fairly reassuring tbh, with almost everyone respecting each others' space and anxieties. If you go by what's said online however, you'd swear everyone is carrying on as normal.

Again, I DO care about trying to do our best against this. Some level-headedness would be appreciated though. If the data says I'm full of ****, so be it, I'll update my stance accordingly!

China, Italy and Spain says hello in a week.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Well shur, you’ve done your best to convince yourself that you doing it isn’t a risk so I think you’ve made up your mind about whether you’re going to do it or not. I’m not your dad. You don’t need to explain yourself to me. But I think you know it’s not a good idea.

You’re free to behave well or poorly.

I genuinely do not think it's a bad idea for me to be outside, getting exercise, while avoiding contact with other people, no. I am not touching surfaces that are shared with others, I'm on my bike, so HAVE to maintain distance regardless. I do not see how this is poor behaviour.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I think you missed the bit where they said they DO care. And because they DO care, they can’t be causing a problem. That’s how it works, right?

The way this works is a virus spreads from host to host, in this case via airborne droplets and particles which can remain on surfaces, particularly metal ones.

Avoiding contact with other people, not gathering, are the most tangible, real ways to fight this.

If a person is outside of their home, but does not come into close contact with other people and touches absolutely nothing that may be shared with other people, then how is there a significant risk posed?

Herb Powell wrote: »

The way this works is a virus spreads from host to host, in this case via airborne droplets and particles which can remain on surfaces, particularly metal ones.

Avoiding contact with other people, not gathering, are the most tangible, real ways to fight this.

If a person is outside of their home, but does not come into close contact with other people and touches absolutely nothing that may be shared with other people, then how is there a significant risk posed?

Just stay at home.

Jesus what is wrong with you people?

What will it take for you to realise how serious this is?

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Not for long.

We will not even be allowed go walking in a week or so for months because people like you had to get out of the house.

You do understand that this is a coronavirus? It is incredibly serious and everyone must follow public health advice. But this is a coronavirus and therefore if you avoid other people and practice proper hygiene you cannot transmit it or catch it.

revelman wrote: »

You do understand that this is a coronavirus? It is incredibly serious and everyone must follow public health advice. But this is a coronavirus and therefore if you avoid other people and practice proper hygiene you cannot transmit it or catch it.

Oh I understand that.

But many of your fellow country people don't.

People need to be locked in their bedrooms and not come out until a whistle is blown by the local garda when this is over. Food will be slid under the door in a process known as flood sliding. Exercise will consist of dancing to old style music on the radio.