CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

D.Q wrote: »

It's always the same posters in here scaremongering. It's such a fast moving thread it's easy to forget that or miss it, but it's the same people all the time. Revelling in it, shrill hysteria and anxiety masquerading as straight talking realism.

You could say the same about the flat earthers, who no matter what the numbers are, still seem to think everything is grand.

this guy and other crackpot linked here recently sound very intelligent but still have no good explanation for health services/ICU beds becoming completely overwhelmed in italy, spain, china, new york etc. the first guy didnt even address it. this guy vaguely mentions air quality at one point.

if this was business as usual, there would be zero issues with ventilators, ICU beds etc.

it's pretty amazing how people so educated can be so dumb.

You're only showing your ignorance here.

What normally happens with ICU facilities? All the ICU facilities in the world always would be full and overwhelmed all of the time if every elderly and/or very infirm person was put on a ventilator.

His explanation is basically "oh well most of those deaths were people dying anyways, so I'm only going to count the healthy people who die of corona"

He says that for every 30 deaths per day caused by this corona virus, "we do not realise that 20, 30 or 40 or 100 patients positive for normal Corona viruses are already dying every day."

loved it when they had guys doing press-ups on the streets thats the way to do it

growleaves wrote: »

You're only showing your ignorance here.

What normally happens with ICU facilities? All the ICU facilities in the world always would be full and overwhelmed all of the time if every elderly and/or very infirm person was put on a ventilator.

If Covid-19 was a normal everyday virus that people get all the time anyway, then it wouldn't be clogging up hospitals. His view is that a fictional hysteria has been built around the virus, but that it's just a regular virus like any other - he's saying Italy and China don't count as reliable references for mortality rate because of the air population. That well may be the case, the mortality rate is probably much lower, but it still doesn't explain the clogging up of the hospitals. He can't say that it's a normal virus when it's clearly having an abnormal impact.

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Doubtful.

Shares are down across the board by 30 or 40%.
Businesses and corporations are losing money hand over fist.
GDP is down.
Unemployment is up.

There's always ways of making money during a crisis, but I highly doubt a worldwide lockdown is the best way to increase your earnings. Unless these wealthy people happen to own hand sanitizer and mask factories.

Blueshoe wrote: »

Buy and hold. Dow Jones industrial average is much much higher now than 2008. Almost treble I believe. Factor in inflation and it's still far far higher.
Many of the giants Ie Apple, Alphabet etc were way overdue a drop though. overvalued.
The Us are ready to throw 2trillion at the economy which will of course include a corporate bailout and Us, European and Asian stock markets have rallied on the news. China lifting restrictions has also been a major factor.

Indicators show a likely bear market though.

growth assets pretty much just lost what they made in 2019, so while people think wore 30% drop, it's not that big of a drop overall. Like others have eluded to, once wr get to the other side, the markets will pick back up again.

A lot of posters here are clearly politically motivated. Obviously hate the government..so I'd suggest a lot should be ignored. A lot of good and bad work done in the last 10 years to turn around the country.but not concentrating on certain issues cost them dearly. But im struggling to see many faults the last 3-4 weeks. What were people expecting. That we would sail through a pandemic.

Blueshoe wrote: »

A hold I would be talking about would be minimum 5 years.

What do you mean?

xtal191 wrote: »

The general public in the UK are only starting to realise how serious it is. Over the last couple of weeks English friends have been posting social gatherings on Instagram without a care in the world, meanwhile in Ireland we’ve been limited our movements and preparing.

Johnson’s flip-flop from herd immunity to social isolation has been criminal.

They have ~37000 infected and have had around 30 deaths per day for the last 2 days.

37k active infections that we know of, it may be revised upwards in time. That's what the Oxford University Infectious Diseases Lab report was saying (which one poster on this thread characterised as 'BS' - well that settles that)