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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #8402
    [Deleted User]
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    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Should we seriously not just consider the cocoon strategy for at risk groups. Anyone in this group should keep themselves isolated. Leave everybody else get back to some normality, perhaps people who can work from home continue to do so. But get the kids back to school.

    That is kind of the UK strategy. 1.5 million people with certain conditions have been written to and told to not step outside of their homes for three months. And a support network, including local pharmacies, NHS, grocery stores , delivery drivers and an army of volunteers (400,000 as at today), has been mobilised to ensure that they are all looked after and remain in contact with the world. By cocooning these people, it is hoped that further restrictions on movement and economic activity wont be necessary.

    It is the only strategy that makes sense to me.


  • #8403
    dougm1970
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    see those 50 junior doctors in australia who were trying to get home last week to help the hse...and the flights were a fortune and they couldnt get over.
    in that instance, couldnt the government get aer lingus to go over and get them ?....i see simon harris today saying aer lingus are going to china for supplies for the hse.


  • #8404
    kyote00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭kyote00


    He is talking about back doors
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  • #8405
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    All I'm saying is. Ireland is different to the countries that have a higher populations and population densities. We have a better chance of controlling this anyway. Most people who are outside the risk group will be fine with this illness. Anyone who normally is a candidate for a flu jab should be told to self isolate everybody else should go back to normal.

    What happens if you have a mother or father living with you who are high risk? What do you do in that situation? How do you isolate them when they live with you?


  • #8406
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    That suggestion is far too sensible, so it won’t be entertained.

    Leo mentioned in his St Patrick`s Day address that it`s on the cards at some point.


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  • #8407
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    cjmc wrote: »
    You didn't. But you said you don't like people other that doctors using the term Dr in their title. Even if they have a doctorate ?

    in the medical field most people understand a doctor to be a medical doctor. a nurse calling himself a doctor, even while technically he is a one, is disingenuous. thousands of his new viewers think he is a medical doctor now. his username is "Dr John Campbell". anyone with time and some money can get a PhD. very few people can be medical doctors.


  • #8408
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    cjmc wrote: »
    Dr's don't have doctorates. They have degrees in medicine , I think. So anyone with a doctorate is entitled to use Dr

    Amusingly, my sister was a nurse and she happened to have a Phd in biochemistry in addition to her Bsc in nursing, Bsc in biochemistry and other diplomas. so everyone she worked with should have addressed her as Dr, not Nurse, but I believe she never let on so they didn't know.


  • #8409
    [Deleted User]
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    Blaze420 wrote: »
    No we can’t because quite a few people in this country are clearly mentally deficient and can’t be relied upon - we are in this together till it’s done, no locking away specific groups.

    They are in the UK - 1.5 million at risk people ordered to stay in their house for three months. But the UK is also providing a huge support network to ensure that they are kept an eye on


  • #8410
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    That strategy is a bit like letting a load of serial killers roam the streets, because it might cost you a lot of money to catch them and keep the public safe!

    You cannot in good conscience, allow a dangerous virus to run through your population unchecked... it's quite barbaric actually!

    Young people have died from Covid19 too btw!

    They have. But so does the flu. The only difference between this and the flu is we vaccinate the at risk groups of the flu. So in the absence of a vaccine the at risk groups should isolate themselves and everybody else goes back to normal.


  • #8411
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    God help Claire Byrne if she's still there! Exploring isolation with Marty :D

    The Big Brother shed?
    They should organise a tele poll to see who leaves the shed!


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  • #8412
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    God help Claire Byrne if she's still there! Exploring isolation with Marty :D

    All in the national interest of course.


  • #8413
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,794 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    froog wrote: »
    in the medical field most people understand a doctor to be a medical doctor. a nurse calling himself a doctor, even while technically he is a one, is disingenuous. thousands of his new viewers think he is a medical doctor now. his username is "Dr John Campbell". anyone with time and some money can get a PhD. very few people can be medical doctors.
    Once again I agree with you.


  • #8414
    Blaze420
    Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    They are in the UK - 1.5 million at risk people ordered to stay in their house for three months. But the UK is also providing a huge support network to ensure that they are kept an eye on

    Yes but it wouldn’t work here, we’ve clearly seen the calibre of some our citizens in the last 2 weeks - thick as ****ing pig**** if not thicker


  • #8415
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,366 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    So even if Charles completely recovers from the virus, during the incubation period he has been in contact with his 94 year old mother who presumably in turn has since been in contact with his 98 year old father who has known health issues. This may not end well for the Windsor Royals.

    They may need Harry back


  • #8416
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    This isn't going away until there is a vaccine and the best we can hope for is to trickle people into the hospitals at a manageable rate until the vaccine is widely available, and the only way to ensure that is to stay locked up for a good while.

    this isn't going away with a vaccine, it mutates so you would need a range of vaccines, at some stage the money for hospitals, social welfare etc will run out


  • #8417
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Should we seriously not just consider the cocoon strategy for at risk groups. Anyone in this group should keep themselves isolated. Leave everybody else get back to some normality, perhaps people who can work from home continue to do so. But get the kids back to school.
    It may become necessary at some point but not at this moment. All about doing things at the right time as they keep telling us.


  • #8418
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    froog wrote: »
    in the medical field most people understand a doctor to be a medical doctor. a nurse calling himself a doctor, even while technically he is a one, is disingenuous. thousands of his new viewers think he is a medical doctor now. his username is "Dr John Campbell". anyone with time and some money can get a PhD. very few people can be medical doctors.

    Some mighty BS right there. My ex could have sailed through the medical degree she started, later getting a Phd in Electrical Engineering was harder.


  • #8419
    marilynrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Should we seriously not just consider the cocoon strategy for at risk groups. Anyone in this group should keep themselves isolated. Leave everybody else get back to some normality, perhaps people who can work from home continue to do so. But get the kids back to school.


    I think this will be the plan once we get over the initial surge. There's some people who are infected now who don't realise or haven't got that bad yet, but for some of them that's going to progress badly, the problem is right now that we don't know how many that is going to happen to, there's obviously a lot of concern we could be like Italy or Spain...so for now try to keep people in as much as possible until we see what our numbers are going to be like, then I reckon they will start easing people back into normality and ask the vulnerable to isolate themselves.


  • #8420
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,366 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    How can the restrictions end up having a more negative effect than the virus?

    Economies can recover. The dead won't recover.

    I think he was talking about mental health problems people with high anxiety and people in isolation with there abuser. I am agreeing with you on your last line


  • #8421
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    dougm1970 wrote: »
    see those 50 junior doctors in australia who were trying to get home last week to help the hse...and the flights were a fortune and they couldnt get over.
    in that instance, couldnt the government get aer lingus to go over and get them ?....i see simon harris today saying aer lingus are going to china for supplies for the hse.

    I thought it was 5? And why not stay and help out in Oz?

    How would you feel if the Philippines sent planes over to Ireland to fly back nurses, or other nationalities?

    Hospitals, nursing homes - there are thousands of non Irish working in the healthcare in Ireland- would you be happy for these to go back to their own country and leave us?


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  • #8422
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    froog wrote: »
    in the medical field most people understand a doctor to be a medical doctor. a nurse calling himself a doctor, even while technically he is a one, is disingenuous. thousands of his new viewers think he is a medical doctor now. his username is "Dr John Campbell". anyone with time and some money can get a PhD. very few people can be medical doctors.
    From his Bio on YouTube
    Hello Everyone,
    My name is John Campbell and I am a retired Nurse Teacher and A and E nurse based in England.


  • #8423
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,366 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Should we seriously not just consider the cocoon strategy for at risk groups. Anyone in this group should keep themselves isolated. Leave everybody else get back to some normality, perhaps people who can work from home continue to do so. But get the kids back to school.

    Why the kids they can carry it from what I remember. If you work your always in a group so that means restrictions like this have to stay anyway


  • #8424
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    What happens if you have a mother or father living with you who are high risk? What do you do in that situation? How do you isolate them when they live with you?

    I haven't seen my parents for over two weeks because I have a partner who works on the frontline. Its difficult but perhaps the government can provide supports to elderly who are cucooning.


  • #8425
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,188 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    is_that_so wrote: »
    From his Bio on YouTube

    Just out of curiosity how much can someone make on views on Youtube based on his views per day?

    Anyone know?


  • #8426
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    What happens if you have a mother or father living with you who are high risk? What do you do in that situation? How do you isolate them when they live with you?

    That's exactly what the Chinese got so right. After realizing 75-80% of all infections were in family groups, they didn't have infected people isolate at home, they quarantined them in dedicated fever hospitals so there was less chance of them infecting everyone in the family as well..


  • #8427
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    A 21 year old has died in Coventry.

    A 36 year old has died in London and was told she wasn't a priority the day before she passed.

    I heard on the grapevine that a teenager has died in Northern Ireland.

    Stay the fuuck inside.


  • #8428
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Some mighty BS right there. My ex could have sailed through the medical degree she started, later getting a Phd in Electrical Engineering was harder.

    i said not everyone can be a medical doctor. nothing you have said proves otherwise.


  • #8429
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,249 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    McGregor buys 1mil of PPE for hospitals.

    https://www.givemesport.com/1557985-conor-mcgregor-buys-1m-worth-of-protective-equipment-for-fighting-hospitals


  • #8430
    Blaze420
    Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    A 21 year old has died in Coventry.

    A 36 year old has died in London and was told she wasn't a priority the day before she passed.

    I heard on the grapevine that a teenager has died in Northern Ireland.

    Stay the fuuck inside.

    Sure our teenagers are too busy spitting and coughing on people and acting the ****ing bollix to be worried about things like this - that might change when it starts cutting a few of them down.


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  • #8431
    LaFuton
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    they should bring all our doctors and nurses home and pay them, and if the die battling this pestilence they should give the family their lump sum!


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