CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

kyote00 wrote: »

€40 for a litre of cleaning alcohol.....
https://www.adverts.ie/other-electronics/ipa-isopropyl-alcohol-isopropanol-99-1l-cleaning-alcohol/20055779

Normally 10-20euro (or 8-10)
https://ie.rs-online.com/web/p/precision-cleaners-degreasers/2274427/

I see a litre of Hand Sanitizer for sale in a chemist for 30 quid today

DOCARCH wrote: »

That's a couple of days old (see date).

yes correct, Looked again and updated my post.

martingriff wrote: »

I know what you mean but if we lift them then that mean an overwhelmed HSE and an even larger amount of deaths

Should we seriously not just consider the cocoon strategy for at risk groups. Anyone in this group should keep themselves isolated. Leave everybody else get back to some normality, perhaps people who can work from home continue to do so. But get the kids back to school.

Ace2007 wrote: »

I see a litre of Hand Sanitizer for sale in a chemist for 30 quid today

What was it before covid19.

cjmc wrote: »

Dr's don't have doctorates. They have degrees in medicine , I think. So anyone with a doctorate is entitled to use Dr

where did i say doctors had doctorates?

Does Wales have a high proportion of elderly people, English who retired there? This explains their relatively high death rate so far.

Xertz wrote: »

I don’t think anyone is arguing it isn’t but it’s also in some ways cultural in the common law type legal systems. Going to law seems to be a solution to everything with punitive damages payments being the only remedy.

We should have more arbitration systems and also better regulation. A lot of it is about using threat of law suit in lieu of proper regulation and oversight.

It’s very much part of anglophone legal culture and laissez faire mentality around how to regulate.

There’s going to have to be some kind of legal protection put in place for present circumstances or I’m sure there’ll be a mess in the years to come.

I'm an Australian and can tell you that it is not remotely an 'anglophone' thing. In NZ, there is a state body that handles all accident insurance claims - motor vehicle, kid falling out of a tree at school and landing on a teachers head, someone slipping and breaking a hip on a slick pavement. They have a table of payouts by injury type and prognosis with fixed payouts.

In Western Australia, 3rd party vehicle insurance was part of the vehicle registration charge and state run. Same thing - a table of injury types with fixed payouts. Both of these countries still have the Queen as head of state. Ireland doesn't. I am sick to death of lawyers telling me - and they have - that the Irish legal system is a fetid mess because it inherited stupid from the British legal system. Other countries that are still in the Commonwealth got off their backsides and fixed the stupid way back last century. The cost of registering and insuring a car there was a fraction of what it costs here.

In WA, you can buy and sell a house without ever involving a solicitor, because they had the brains and get-go to get off their arses and fix the legal stupid and evolve a legal system that isn't purpose-designed to keep legions of lawyers employed, as it is here.

I know a German trained gynecologist here who is qualified in obstetrics in Germany and would have liked to practice in that field here also, but can't because of the sue for the moon and the insane insurance costs that results in.

I saw a newspaper headline a few years ago where A US business representative was exasperatedly and openly urging the Irish government to fix the burdensomely convoluted legal system which he knew for a fact was such a huge cost issue that US firms were not investing here in some circumstances because of it.

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Should we seriously not just consider the cocoon strategy for at risk groups. Anyone in this group should keep themselves isolated. Leave everybody else get back to some normality, perhaps people who can work from home continue to do so. But get the kids back to school.

That suggestion is far too sensible, so it won’t be entertained.

BattleCorp wrote: »

How can the restrictions end up having a more negative effect than the virus?

Economies can recover. The dead won't recover.

Yes but we can keep the people who are at risk of dying isolated. That what the death rate should naturally remain low.

when are they going to cut the sports section from the news ffs? do we really need a daily update which sporting events are cancelled?

Marty in the shed

froog wrote: »

when are they going to cut the sports section from the news ffs? do we really need a daily update which sporting events are cancelled?

You are right getting daft at this stage

The One Doctor wrote: »

Not worth the high infection rates that would cause just so you can get five minutes of peace.

And yes, I am a parent at home with a five year old right now.

All I'm saying is. Ireland is different to the countries that have a higher populations and population densities. We have a better chance of controlling this anyway. Most people who are outside the risk group will be fine with this illness. Anyone who normally is a candidate for a flu jab should be told to self isolate everybody else should go back to normal.