CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

kilkenny31 · 25-03-2020 07:37PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Restrictions won't be reduced for a good while, at least 2 months I reckon. Or maybe even longer.

Yeah I fear you maybe right. I'm starting to get worried that the restrictions may end up having a more negative effect than the virus.

Kermit.de.frog · 25-03-2020 07:37PM

ForestFire wrote: »

So NI has only 209 confirmed case compared to Ireland 965 case (Before today numbers in REP), but they have more deaths than us....

The number of cases in ROI is 1,329

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 25-03-2020 07:39PM

Gynoid wrote: »

Ah now, you are a paddy come lately in this game. We have had several iterations of this lame trope already - from panic porn, posting with your lad in your hand, to one chap who was keen on calling people bed-wetters. And so having a **** over the misery just doesn't have an edge anymore. Sorry.

Some people only want to hear the truth, if it's cheerful enough for them...

If it's too downbeat or sad (or even just realistic), they'd prefer if you spun them cheery upbeat fib instead! :P

ForestFire · 25-03-2020 07:40PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The number of cases in ROI is 1,329

965 according to this in ROI??

is 1329 including NI?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/summary/

Ah I see the issue...
Updated march 22nd, Jesus can they not keep the main COVID-19 National Summary page up to date!!

Its only 3 cells they need to update

BattleCorp · 25-03-2020 07:41PM

Given that every celebrity/football player etc. in the UK seems to have the virus, does anybody believe that they only had 187 new cases today?

Source https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

martingriff · 25-03-2020 07:41PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Yeah I fear you maybe right. I'm starting to get worried that the restrictions may end up having a more negative effect than the virus.

I know what you mean but if we lift them then that mean an overwhelmed HSE and an even larger amount of deaths

DOCARCH · 25-03-2020 07:41PM

ForestFire wrote: »

965 according to this in ROI??

is 1329 including NI?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/summary/

That's a couple of days old (see date).

cj maxx · 25-03-2020 07:41PM

froog wrote: »

yeah not a fan of that guy at all. he's fine when he stays in his lane: basic hygiene and introductory level biology, but when he gets into epidemiology he's completely out of his depth and misinterprets data constantly. aside from that, most of his videos are just reading out news headlines and figures.

i also have little respect for anyone in the medical field who calls themselves a doctor who isn't actually a medical doctor. he's a nurse with a PhD. Two VERY different things.

Dr's don't have doctorates. They have degrees in medicine , I think. So anyone with a doctorate is entitled to use Dr

Cork Boy 53 · 25-03-2020 07:42PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

at least we now have public contact tracing for one case...

So even if Charles completely recovers from the virus, during the incubation period he has been in contact with his 94 year old mother who presumably in turn has since been in contact with his 98 year old father who has known health issues. This may not end well for the Windsor Royals.

BattleCorp · 25-03-2020 07:42PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Yeah I fear you maybe right. I'm starting to get worried that the restrictions may end up having a more negative effect than the virus.

How can the restrictions end up having a more negative effect than the virus?

Economies can recover. The dead won't recover.

Ace2007 · 25-03-2020 07:42PM

kyote00 wrote: »

€40 for a litre of cleaning alcohol.....
https://www.adverts.ie/other-electronics/ipa-isopropyl-alcohol-isopropanol-99-1l-cleaning-alcohol/20055779

Normally 10-20euro (or 8-10)
https://ie.rs-online.com/web/p/precision-cleaners-degreasers/2274427/

I see a litre of Hand Sanitizer for sale in a chemist for 30 quid today

Widdensushi · 25-03-2020 07:43PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Restrictions won't be reduced for a good while, at least 2 months I reckon. Or maybe even longer.

some restrictions will be here for more than 2 months, like the schools closed but many will be gone in a month, shops will be allowed reopen etc if the hospitals are not totally overwhelmed.

ForestFire · 25-03-2020 07:44PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

That's a couple of days old (see date).

yes correct, Looked again and updated my post.

BattleCorp · 25-03-2020 07:44PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

some restrictions will be here for more than 2 months, like the schools closed but many will be gone in a month, shops will be allowed reopen etc if the hospitals are not totally overwhelmed.

And as soon as we are out and about, this will all kick off again. I think you are being a bit optomistic to be honest.

kilkenny31 · 25-03-2020 07:44PM

martingriff wrote: »

I know what you mean but if we lift them then that mean an overwhelmed HSE and an even larger amount of deaths

Should we seriously not just consider the cocoon strategy for at risk groups. Anyone in this group should keep themselves isolated. Leave everybody else get back to some normality, perhaps people who can work from home continue to do so. But get the kids back to school.

froog · 25-03-2020 07:45PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

So even if Charles completely recovers from the virus, during the incubation period he has been in contact with his 94 year old mother who presumably in turn has since been in contact with his 98 year old father who has known health issues. This may not end well for the Windsor Royals.

no one should be blamed for spreading this thing unless they are sweating buckets, coughing a lung out and mixing willingly with people. sounds like chuck had mild symptoms and got himself tested, presumably self isolating while waiting for results.

cj maxx · 25-03-2020 07:45PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

I see a litre of Hand Sanitizer for sale in a chemist for 30 quid today

What was it before covid19.

25-03-2020 07:45PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

830 new cases and 80 new deaths in the Netherlands today.

The largest number of daily deaths so far (up 30% in one day)

In Germany 43 more deaths today, by far the highest so far and deaths have been accelerating there now for the last 5 days.

Netherlands didn't take it seriously at the start of so no surprise.

Germany are testing a lot. Imo, they'll not suffer as much as others

froog · 25-03-2020 07:46PM

cjmc wrote: »

Dr's don't have doctorates. They have degrees in medicine , I think. So anyone with a doctorate is entitled to use Dr

where did i say doctors had doctorates?

Marje · 25-03-2020 07:46PM

https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1242880376005148673

hotmail.com · 25-03-2020 07:46PM

Does Wales have a high proportion of elderly people, English who retired there? This explains their relatively high death rate so far.

Widdensushi · 25-03-2020 07:46PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

And as soon as we are out and about, this will all kick off again. I think you are being a bit optomistic to be honest.

it's not going away if we stay locked up, it's about making sure that only so many are sick at one time

cnocbui · 25-03-2020 07:47PM

Xertz wrote: »

I don’t think anyone is arguing it isn’t but it’s also in some ways cultural in the common law type legal systems. Going to law seems to be a solution to everything with punitive damages payments being the only remedy.

We should have more arbitration systems and also better regulation. A lot of it is about using threat of law suit in lieu of proper regulation and oversight.

It’s very much part of anglophone legal culture and laissez faire mentality around how to regulate.

There’s going to have to be some kind of legal protection put in place for present circumstances or I’m sure there’ll be a mess in the years to come.

I'm an Australian and can tell you that it is not remotely an 'anglophone' thing. In NZ, there is a state body that handles all accident insurance claims - motor vehicle, kid falling out of a tree at school and landing on a teachers head, someone slipping and breaking a hip on a slick pavement. They have a table of payouts by injury type and prognosis with fixed payouts.

In Western Australia, 3rd party vehicle insurance was part of the vehicle registration charge and state run. Same thing - a table of injury types with fixed payouts. Both of these countries still have the Queen as head of state. Ireland doesn't. I am sick to death of lawyers telling me - and they have - that the Irish legal system is a fetid mess because it inherited stupid from the British legal system. Other countries that are still in the Commonwealth got off their backsides and fixed the stupid way back last century. The cost of registering and insuring a car there was a fraction of what it costs here.

In WA, you can buy and sell a house without ever involving a solicitor, because they had the brains and get-go to get off their arses and fix the legal stupid and evolve a legal system that isn't purpose-designed to keep legions of lawyers employed, as it is here.

I know a German trained gynecologist here who is qualified in obstetrics in Germany and would have liked to practice in that field here also, but can't because of the sue for the moon and the insane insurance costs that results in.

I saw a newspaper headline a few years ago where A US business representative was exasperatedly and openly urging the Irish government to fix the burdensomely convoluted legal system which he knew for a fact was such a huge cost issue that US firms were not investing here in some circumstances because of it.

Cork Boy 53 · 25-03-2020 07:48PM

froog wrote: »

no one should be blamed for spreading this thing unless they are sweating buckets, coughing a lung out and mixing willingly with people. sounds like chuck had mild symptoms and got himself tested, presumably self isolating while waiting for results.

"Self isolating" with 6 servants if I heard correctly. Don`t know what the story is with Camilla.

Roger_007 · 25-03-2020 07:49PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Should we seriously not just consider the cocoon strategy for at risk groups. Anyone in this group should keep themselves isolated. Leave everybody else get back to some normality, perhaps people who can work from home continue to do so. But get the kids back to school.

That suggestion is far too sensible, so it won’t be entertained.

cj maxx · 25-03-2020 07:49PM

froog wrote: »

where did i say doctors had doctorates?

You didn't. But you said you don't like people other that doctors using the term Dr in their title. Even if they have a doctorate ?

kilkenny31 · 25-03-2020 07:49PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

How can the restrictions end up having a more negative effect than the virus?

Economies can recover. The dead won't recover.

Yes but we can keep the people who are at risk of dying isolated. That what the death rate should naturally remain low.

The One Doctor · 25-03-2020 07:50PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Should we seriously not just consider the cocoon strategy for at risk groups. Anyone in this group should keep themselves isolated. Leave everybody else get back to some normality, perhaps people who can work from home continue to do so. But get the kids back to school.

Not worth the high infection rates that would cause just so you can get five minutes of peace.

And yes, I am a parent at home with a five year old right now.

froog · 25-03-2020 07:50PM

when are they going to cut the sports section from the news ffs? do we really need a daily update which sporting events are cancelled?

BattleCorp · 25-03-2020 07:50PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

it's not going away if we stay locked up, it's about making sure that only so many are sick at one time

This isn't going away until there is a vaccine and the best we can hope for is to trickle people into the hospitals at a manageable rate until the vaccine is widely available, and the only way to ensure that is to stay locked up for a good while.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP