CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

US2 · 25-03-2020 03:57PM

Boggles wrote: »

Are you the one that went to the pub with every symptom of the virus?

Walter.

:rolleyes:

Yeah that's me. Managed to do a bit of fishing with all symptoms too

SDKev · 25-03-2020 03:57PM

Boggles wrote: »

Where is buying them?

PPE equipment is readily available in China, you could have it here within a few days

wakka12 · 25-03-2020 03:58PM

Is even the 6000 figure a bit of an overstimate by 31st March? It would mean Ireland having 800 or so new cases daily for the next 6 days like

bekker · 25-03-2020 03:58PM

setanta1984 wrote: »

Just got a notification from the Guardian for this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days
15 minute home test that is to be distributed by Amazon and made available for purchase in chemists by the public in the UK- "that could restore many people’s lives to a semblance of pre-lockdown normality" - available by next week they hope.

Game changer or false hope from an overly excited article? Says that many other countries are also ordering the tests.

Yes, NY company AFAIR, posted about it a few? days ago.

If we can get hold of sufficient number we should use them to conduct a programme of statistically valid random sample of population to establish virus penetration and rate of spread.

Effective forward planning needs hard data, not random numbers based on a cohort of those tested on a basis of filtered self-selection.

Big advantages of this test is speed and relative simplicity in application. It identifies up the asymptomatic, and too-little-affected to be bothered cohorts, both of which the swab tests miss.

But it not yet proven, but even with a significant error rate it's better than current method for statistical sampling.

Boggles · 25-03-2020 03:58PM

murpho999 wrote: »

I think the new measures are correct as I'd say many of the 40,000 have noting wrong with them and it would only result in wasted tests which ar enot finite.

Sure going at 6% only 2,400 would have the virus.

They have failed with what they tried to do, time to acknowledge that and move on.

Anyone trying to put a spin on it is to be ignored IMO.

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 03:58PM

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1242814082874572800?s=20

flynnlives · 25-03-2020 03:59PM

The problem with the 40k is the GP's.

They were referring anyone with a runny nose to get tested.

Its the same reason the A&E's were full, trigger happy GP's sending people to them. Then when restrictions come in miraculously
there is a dramatic drop in trolley numbers. In some cases last week there was no one on a trolley in a lot of hospitals.

GP's seem to abdicate their responsibility with any little ailment people present in surgeries with.

Boggles · 25-03-2020 03:59PM

SDKev wrote: »

PPE equipment is readily available in China, you could have it here within a few days

The government appear to be struggling to get it and they have an entire airline at their disposal.

I'm curious how Conor will get round it is all.

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 03:59PM

Boggles wrote: »

Sure going at 6% only 2,400 would have the virus.

They have failed with what they tried to do, time to acknowledge that and move on.

Anyone trying to put a spin on it is to be ignored IMO.

Duly ignored!

cnocbui · 25-03-2020 04:00PM

take everything wrote: »

Anyone know any sources/know how to make their own face mask.

Serious question.

Youtube has many video how-to's on the topic.

bekker · 25-03-2020 04:00PM

Seamai wrote: »

I find that drop in mobile accounts quite concerning if true, in a time of pandemics and lockdown mobile phones will be used a lot more, so why the drop?

C.....! Read the entire post.

crossman47 · 25-03-2020 04:00PM

I haven't read all this thread but has anyone mentioned that a couple coughed into the face of Simon Harris as he walked to his department and then ran away laughing. Despicable. He mentioned it in his news conference earlier.

cnocbui · 25-03-2020 04:01PM

flynnlives wrote: »

The problem with the 40k is the GP's.

They were referring anyone with a runny nose to get tested.

Its the same reason the A&E's were full, trigger happy GP's sending people to them. Then when restrictions come in miraculously
there is a dramatic drop in trolley numbers. In some cases last week there was no one on a trolley in a lot of hospitals.

GP's seem to abdicate their responsibility with any little ailment people present in surgeries with.

Is there a stupid post of the thread award somewhere?

SDKev · 25-03-2020 04:02PM

Boggles wrote: »

The government appear to be struggling to get it and they have an entire airline at their disposal.

I'm curious how Conor will get round it is all.

I agree, no idea how it’s taking them so long.

A supplier of mine in China who manufactures cable is now manufacturing the wire for the masks, he said lots of companies are doing similar - but Mask/gowns etc are all readily available

STB. · 25-03-2020 04:03PM

murpho999 wrote: »

I love all the experts on this thread.

Ignoring warning sign. You would swear this has been going on for years.

It's a rapidly developoing and unprecendented situation.

It takes time to set up facilities for mass testing, remember they have to be processed in labs.

I think the new measures are correct as I'd say many of the 40,000 have noting wrong with them and it would only result in wasted tests which ar enot finite.

You say we're heading down the wrong road but show me a country in Europe that is on the right road.

I think our numbers are low, and hopefully we keep it under control.

Please note I said "i think" as the truth is that nobody really knows. Especially people on the internet.

Well you're obviously not one of them.

You think, you assume, you'd say. How ironic.

You were obviously last in the queue that day. But don't panic. You can educate yourself, beyond you think, you assume, you'd say. I'd say the sky is the limit for you.

Clue: Its not a wild guessing game

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 04:03PM

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1242820789105315842?s=20

Strazdas · 25-03-2020 04:05PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Is even the 6000 figure a bit of an overstimate by 31st March? It would mean Ireland having 800 or so new cases daily for the next 6 days like

Yes, I've seen one estimate of about 3000 total cases by Tuesday, which sounds more realistic.

kowloon · 25-03-2020 04:05PM

I've also seen that a college party had to be tear-gassed to break up a crowd of hundreds.
People can be right spanners.

BorneTobyWilde · 25-03-2020 04:05PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I cannot speak to the authenticity nor do I give a Fvck what it is you think of Mcgregor.
I think it is great if he is in fact purchasing sought after PPE for medics.

https://twitter.com/KingMcgregorFC/status/1242811095242264577?s=20

It makes it looks like there is PPE available to him, but that the Government won't buy it. So weird that you have celebrities like Ronaldo saying things like '' I'm buying 10000 ventilators '' when no one else can buy one!

Seems so crazy.

flynnlives · 25-03-2020 04:06PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Is there a stupid post of the thread award somewhere?

explain the dramatic drop in A&E numbers?

I bet given access we would see a dramatic drop in referral letters to them.

There is simply no other explaination then less referrals from gp's to them.

Blaze420 · 25-03-2020 04:06PM

crossman47 wrote: »

I haven't read all this thread but has anyone mentioned that a couple coughed into the face of Simon Harris as he walked to his department and then ran away laughing. Despicable. He mentioned it in his news conference earlier.

Yep I posted it just a while ago. (Un)official advice is if you see it happen, beat the person non stop until they start seizing or a parent shows up - then beat the ****ing head off them as well for not swallowing. If you are still going, wait for the gardai to show up and give a gentle tug on your arm to stop beating said person to a pulp.

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 04:07PM

bekker wrote: »

What is the purpose of the testing programme, both original and as modified and modified?

If it is ,

to evaluate the extent of penetration of the virus then statistically valid, repeated randomised testing of the population the best answer.

to identify and rapidly treat those who are displaying symptoms of serious reaction then fast GP triaging, fast testing and fast processing.

to test the cohort who are statistically most vulnerable then selection by existing medical record is the best answer, but to test 400,000+?

to reassure the population then the present strategy seems to be effective, but meaningless as a strategy for any of the above.

This a repost from yesterday but when I came on today it appears the testing issue has resurfaced, interestingly nobody here seems to discern any objective for the testing other than the last one.

Testing health workers and in hospital patients is a separate issue and being handle by the new in-house hospital.

I think it's to find a lot more cases and to remove an awful lot of people from testing who don't need it. The winter flu' programme gets 40% positive in tests.

otnomart · 25-03-2020 04:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, but Italy has multi-generational families living under the one roof and/or keeping in very close contact. Its another factor working against them to keep in mind.

Dublin and London do have people sharing and living under one roof though.

25-03-2020 04:08PM

US2 wrote: »

Yeah that's me. Managed to do a bit of fishing with all symptoms too

So you also went to work two days ago whilst symptomatic with all the signs of COVID-19? Deary me. Well done on been part of the problem, Typhoid Mary.

growleaves · 25-03-2020 04:08PM

A recent interview with Professor Dr Sucharit Bhakdi, an infectious medicine specialist. Professor Bhakdi is one of the most highly cited medical research scientists in Germany. He was head of the Institute for Medical Microbiology at the Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz.

Please watch the video all the way to the end before commenting.

(One further point left out of the closed captions is that the apparent mortality rate in England is 0.3% at 1:39 to 1:43 in the video).

joe_99 · 25-03-2020 04:08PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1242814082874572800?s=20

Excellent news. Well done Aer Lingus and the pilots

An Ciarraioch · 25-03-2020 04:09PM

If a home testing kit is being rolled out in the UK next week, presumably it'll also be licensed here?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 04:09PM

SDKev wrote: »

PPE equipment is readily available in China, you could have it here within a few days

By Sunday there'll be an order arriving they said.

New Home · 25-03-2020 04:09PM

Blaze420 wrote: »

Yep I posted it just a while ago. (Un)official advice is if you see it happen, beat the person non stop until they start seizing or a parent shows up - then beat the ****ing head off them as well for not swallowing. If you are still going, wait for the gardai to show up and give a gentle tug on your arm to stop beating said person to a pulp.

Probably not the best advice to follow... call the Gardaí and do that ^^^ inside your head instead.

NaiveMelodies · 25-03-2020 04:09PM

The vital PPE gear that's currently required for frontline staff is NOT readily available from China. It's being snapped up before being ready. Lots of back orders.
If anyone can source IIR masks let me know.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP