CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

BorneTobyWilde · 25-03-2020 03:35PM

Again China locked down the epicentre. Wuhan, Ireland leave it's Epicentre Dublin as a free for all, public transport running ,and zero lockdown. It's a case of allowing things to get out of hand in Dublin, and then locking it down.
Trump is right, you can't treat a whole country the same as the epicentre in that country, London another epicentre , they are in for a world of pain. Tube running, buses running, CRAZY.
sHORT TERM pain is better than long term pain. We should be on top of it by now, but we're not, as Dublin is not locked down,

setanta1984 · 25-03-2020 03:36PM

Just got a notification from the Guardian for this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days
15 minute home test that is to be distributed by Amazon and made available for purchase in chemists by the public in the UK- "that could restore many people’s lives to a semblance of pre-lockdown normality" - available by next week they hope.

Game changer or false hope from an overly excited article? Says that many other countries are also ordering the tests.

Boggles · 25-03-2020 03:36PM

setanta1984 wrote: »

Just got a notification from the Guardian for this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days
15 minute home test that is to be distributed by Amazon and made available for purchase in chemists by the public - "that could restore many people’s lives to a semblance of pre-lockdown normality" - available by next week they hope.

Game changer or false hope from an overly excited article? Says that many other countries are also ordering the tests.

Is that the one the Irish Boys developed?

weldoninhio · 25-03-2020 03:38PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That's UCDs lab. There's other labs too.

People have been saying we only have one lab in the country with test processing capability.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 25-03-2020 03:38PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Hold on a sec.

We have 1329 positive cases.

If that's 4% then the overall number of tests should be 33,000 not 14,692.

Also, many test are repeat tests on the same person to see if they are clear.

What am I missing here?

The nvrl doesn't do all the tests.

There's been about 18000 total tests. Over the last week 6% was positive and 94% negative.

Boggles · 25-03-2020 03:38PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That's UCDs lab. There's other labs too.

They have tested nearly 15,000 samples out of 18,000?.

The maths are still way off.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 25-03-2020 03:39PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

People have been saying we only have one lab in the country with test processing capability.

We have one lab doing all the community cases. The in hospital labs are being used for hospital testing but they have their other stuff to do too afaik.

QuestionSpark · 25-03-2020 03:42PM

BronsonTB wrote: »

Crazy stuff & hope the extreme end of any law breaking is applied....

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0325/1126291-coughing-investigation/

Would like to see anyone caught, being prosecuted, having criminal record & never being able to work in the public sector or get a passport for at least 10 years.

Should be zero tolerance being applied.... might soften their coughing!

What kind of stupidity have we in our country....

I've been the subject of fake coughing twice by small groups of teenagers in the past two days. Luckily not in my direct space. Still their ignorance is incredible.

Steve F · 25-03-2020 03:43PM

setanta1984 wrote: »

Just got a notification from the Guardian for this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days
15 minute home test that is to be distributed by Amazon and made available for purchase in chemists by the public in the UK- "that could restore many people’s lives to a semblance of pre-lockdown normality" - available by next week they hope.

Game changer or false hope from an overly excited article? Says that many other countries are also ordering the tests.

I'm confused but humor me
Surely tests are only good for a day or two.You could test negative on a Monday and be Positive on the Friday?

Vaccine!!

Wombatman · 25-03-2020 03:44PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That's UCDs lab. There's other labs too.

Not sure these regional labs are good to go yet.
At the moment we can do a max of 1500 lab test a day.
That was 1000 a week ago.

How did they perform a minimum of 33,000 lab tests (remember there is a lot of repeat testing on the same patient) to get 1326 confirmed cases in three weeks?

Wombatman · 25-03-2020 03:45PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

The nvrl doesn't do all the tests.

There's been about 18000 total tests. Over the last week 6% was positive and 94% negative.

Still not adding up to 33000?

iwillyeah1234 · 25-03-2020 03:46PM

UK stats

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

6,650 cases yesterday. Now showing over 8,000 today.

STB. · 25-03-2020 03:46PM

Boggles wrote: »

They have tested nearly 15,000 samples out of 18,000?.

The maths are still way off.

Lies and false information constantly being fed into this thread.

The NVRL are the ONLY ones doing community lab tests.

The hospitals are ONLY doing tests for the staff ad infected patients followup.

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

We have one lab doing all the community cases. The in hospital labs are being used for hospital testing but they have their other stuff to do too afaik.

You only learned about that when I told you. Up to that you were talking nonsense. The stuff you "think" is not relevant to the thread.

tobefrank321 · 25-03-2020 03:47PM

walshb wrote: »

High probability restrictions extended past April 19?

I can't see restrictions being lifted until we reach China type levels of low infection, ie single digit figures per day. But that is also conditional on the rest of the world getting this under control, otherwise we import cases.

So very little chance of restrictions lifted any time soon, especially given our inability to ban or isolate travellers from hotpot areas.

take everything · 25-03-2020 03:47PM

Anyone know any sources/know how to make their own face mask.

Serious question.

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 03:47PM

I cannot speak to the authenticity nor do I give a Fvck what it is you think of Mcgregor.
I think it is great if he is in fact purchasing sought after PPE for medics.

https://twitter.com/KingMcgregorFC/status/1242811095242264577?s=20

the.red.baron · 25-03-2020 03:47PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

We have one lab doing all the community cases. The in hospital labs are being used for hospital testing but they have their other stuff to do too afaik.

this is correct

not sure why they are doing it like that but they are

There are bound to be shortages in routine equipment and supplies used in these test also give the massive ramp up in the overall levels of testing going on

So maybe there is lab capacity there but thats not the limiting factor

Wombatman · 25-03-2020 03:47PM

Sorry 6% a need for 22,00 lab tests. My bad.

Coyote · 25-03-2020 03:47PM

No Change in number

Slow Change

Big Drop in numbers

some people asked about the ICU beds that would be free after recovery
I have add that and a death rate of 0.5%

again with all of this i'm just trying to show people the 14 day delay in an change in how we deal with this
if you wait till we are overloaded it's too late
everyone has to make up there own mind but at least look at the maths

3 weeks no change 42K
3 weeks slow change 23K
3 weeks big drop 9K

1 month no change 241K
1 month slow change 56K
1 month big drop 11K

you need to decide what you do today to affect 3 weeks from now

I have added an version that people can edit if they link
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DydhVnYCW8Wuig4P8v4DENjsdBctJc1IcbzvILaAYN8/edit?usp=sharing

Muahahaha · 25-03-2020 03:49PM

51551 wash your hands

New Home · 25-03-2020 03:50PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I heard there are some good ones in Alpha Centauri

I don't trust them. Didn't you hear? That's where they keep the plans for the intergalactic highway. Just what we needed. As if we weren't in enough trouble already.

US2 · 25-03-2020 03:53PM

Boggles wrote: »

Leo said we were following the South Korea model yesterday?

All the signs point to them failing.

Doctors now on Twitter asking for PPE.

The last few days can not be spun into a positive, so please stop doing it.

We get it, your a paid up Fine Gael party member.

Sometimes you need to put that to one side or you won't be taken seriously.

I'm a paid up member of Sinn Fein and I'm delighted with how the is handling this.

Quin_Dub · 25-03-2020 03:53PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Probably one of the more important posts on this thread.

How many ICU places do we currently have?

Coyote wrote: »

open to been corrected i think we had 350 and added 25-50 more
that's just from memory, i think the number was 6.5 per 100K

Before it all started we had ~250 ICU beds nationally . As of the middle of last week that figure was at around ~500 with more coming on stream so we are probably north of 600 now.

However , the baseline ~250 would mostly be full anyway so you can probably subtract most of them from any Virus related usage.

I'm sure they've freed up a few by cancelling elective surgeries etc. but a decent percentage of them would be occupied with the regular stuff.

Boggles · 25-03-2020 03:54PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I cannot speak to the authenticity nor do I give a Fvck what it is you think of Mcgregor.
I think it is great if he is in fact purchasing sought after PPE for medics.

https://twitter.com/KingMcgregorFC/status/1242811095242264577?s=20

Where is buying them?

Boggles · 25-03-2020 03:55PM

US2 wrote: »

I'm a paid up member of Sinn Fein and I'm delighted with how the is handling this.

Are you the one that went to the pub with every symptom of the virus?

Walter.

:rolleyes:

Seamai · 25-03-2020 03:55PM

bekker wrote: »

Millions must be dead in China!

A large drop in Chinese mobile accounts ~21M between Nov. '19 and Feb. '20 compared to growth in numbers for 2018-19.
Reported by China MIIT.

Evidence of Chinese cover-up?

Maybe, but it coincides with new MIIT regulations allowing users to transfer provider and bring their numbers with them.

All information needs to be evaluated in context, and not just on basis of MSNBC type headlines.

I find that drop in mobile accounts quite concerning if true, in a time of pandemics and lockdown mobile phones will be used a lot more, so why the drop?

25-03-2020 03:56PM

New Home wrote: »

I don't trust them. Didn't you hear? That's where they keep the plans for the intergalactic highway. Just what we needed. As if we weren't in enough trouble already.

Typical. We get over the current crisis, start patting ourselves on the back, next thing the Vogon constructor fleet arrives............

wakka12 · 25-03-2020 03:56PM

Scandinavia seems to have gotten a handle on their growth it seems like? Initially they all seemed to be growing by 300-500 daily but seems like just a steady 150-200 new cases daily in Norway , Sweden, Denmark

murpho999 · 25-03-2020 03:56PM

STB. wrote: »

The only people trolling this thread are those that continuously ignore the warning signs about how it went wrong in other countries and feed it with incorrect, misleading or nonsense.

You are one of the main protagonists. Claiming that we were following the South Korean model.

Its not panic. Its highlighting that we are meant to be controlling the spread, so that our health care system can treat those affected over the next while, so it doesn't get unmanageable to the extent of Italy and Spain and other countries that have (had) state of the art health systems.

Meanwhile we have abandoned a symptomatic community of 40k when just under half of our transmissions are at community level and caused much confusion and stress.

Deaths rates will only remain low, if our health system does not become overwhelmed to the extent that we are triaging. Of course if we are not testing we cannot contain the spread so we are heading down the wrong road.

I love all the experts on this thread.

Ignoring warning sign. You would swear this has been going on for years.

It's a rapidly developing and unprecedented situation.

It takes time to set up facilities for mass testing, remember they have to be processed in labs.

I think the new measures are correct as I'd say many of the 40,000 have nothing wrong with them and it would only result in wasted tests which are not finite.

You say we're heading down the wrong road but show me a country in Europe that is on the right road.

I think our numbers are low, and hopefully we keep it under control.

Please note I said "i think" as the truth is that nobody really knows. Especially people on the internet.

billybonkers · 25-03-2020 03:56PM

Thousands of 15-minute home tests for coronavirus will be delivered by Amazon to people self-isolating with symptoms or will go on sale on the high street within days, according to Public Health England (PHE), in a move that could restore many people’s lives to a semblance of pre-lockdown normality.

Prof Sharon Peacock, the director of the national infection service at PHE, told MPs on the science and technology committee that mass testing in the UK would be possible by next week.

The UK government has bought 3.5m tests, which the health secretary, Matt Hancock, mentioned on Tuesday with no suggestion that they would be available to the public so quickly, and is ordering millions more.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP