CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

New Home · 25-03-2020 02:50PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I heard there are some good ones in Alpha Centauri

I don't trust them. Didn't you hear? That's where they keep the plans for the intergalactic highway. Just what we needed. As if we weren't in enough trouble already.

US2 · 25-03-2020 02:53PM

Boggles wrote: »

Leo said we were following the South Korea model yesterday?

All the signs point to them failing.

Doctors now on Twitter asking for PPE.

The last few days can not be spun into a positive, so please stop doing it.

We get it, your a paid up Fine Gael party member.

Sometimes you need to put that to one side or you won't be taken seriously.

I'm a paid up member of Sinn Fein and I'm delighted with how the is handling this.

Quin_Dub · 25-03-2020 02:53PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Probably one of the more important posts on this thread.

How many ICU places do we currently have?

Coyote wrote: »

open to been corrected i think we had 350 and added 25-50 more
that's just from memory, i think the number was 6.5 per 100K

Before it all started we had ~250 ICU beds nationally . As of the middle of last week that figure was at around ~500 with more coming on stream so we are probably north of 600 now.

However , the baseline ~250 would mostly be full anyway so you can probably subtract most of them from any Virus related usage.

I'm sure they've freed up a few by cancelling elective surgeries etc. but a decent percentage of them would be occupied with the regular stuff.

Boggles · 25-03-2020 02:54PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I cannot speak to the authenticity nor do I give a Fvck what it is you think of Mcgregor.
I think it is great if he is in fact purchasing sought after PPE for medics.

https://twitter.com/KingMcgregorFC/status/1242811095242264577?s=20

Where is buying them?

Boggles · 25-03-2020 02:55PM

US2 wrote: »

I'm a paid up member of Sinn Fein and I'm delighted with how the is handling this.

Are you the one that went to the pub with every symptom of the virus?

Walter.

:rolleyes:

Seamai · 25-03-2020 02:55PM

bekker wrote: »

Millions must be dead in China!

A large drop in Chinese mobile accounts ~21M between Nov. '19 and Feb. '20 compared to growth in numbers for 2018-19.
Reported by China MIIT.

Evidence of Chinese cover-up?

Maybe, but it coincides with new MIIT regulations allowing users to transfer provider and bring their numbers with them.

All information needs to be evaluated in context, and not just on basis of MSNBC type headlines.

I find that drop in mobile accounts quite concerning if true, in a time of pandemics and lockdown mobile phones will be used a lot more, so why the drop?

25-03-2020 02:56PM

New Home wrote: »

I don't trust them. Didn't you hear? That's where they keep the plans for the intergalactic highway. Just what we needed. As if we weren't in enough trouble already.

Typical. We get over the current crisis, start patting ourselves on the back, next thing the Vogon constructor fleet arrives............

wakka12 · 25-03-2020 02:56PM

Scandinavia seems to have gotten a handle on their growth it seems like? Initially they all seemed to be growing by 300-500 daily but seems like just a steady 150-200 new cases daily in Norway , Sweden, Denmark

murpho999 · 25-03-2020 02:56PM

STB. wrote: »

The only people trolling this thread are those that continuously ignore the warning signs about how it went wrong in other countries and feed it with incorrect, misleading or nonsense.

You are one of the main protagonists. Claiming that we were following the South Korean model.

Its not panic. Its highlighting that we are meant to be controlling the spread, so that our health care system can treat those affected over the next while, so it doesn't get unmanageable to the extent of Italy and Spain and other countries that have (had) state of the art health systems.

Meanwhile we have abandoned a symptomatic community of 40k when just under half of our transmissions are at community level and caused much confusion and stress.

Deaths rates will only remain low, if our health system does not become overwhelmed to the extent that we are triaging. Of course if we are not testing we cannot contain the spread so we are heading down the wrong road.

I love all the experts on this thread.

Ignoring warning sign. You would swear this has been going on for years.

It's a rapidly developing and unprecedented situation.

It takes time to set up facilities for mass testing, remember they have to be processed in labs.

I think the new measures are correct as I'd say many of the 40,000 have nothing wrong with them and it would only result in wasted tests which are not finite.

You say we're heading down the wrong road but show me a country in Europe that is on the right road.

I think our numbers are low, and hopefully we keep it under control.

Please note I said "i think" as the truth is that nobody really knows. Especially people on the internet.

billybonkers · 25-03-2020 02:56PM

Thousands of 15-minute home tests for coronavirus will be delivered by Amazon to people self-isolating with symptoms or will go on sale on the high street within days, according to Public Health England (PHE), in a move that could restore many people’s lives to a semblance of pre-lockdown normality.

Prof Sharon Peacock, the director of the national infection service at PHE, told MPs on the science and technology committee that mass testing in the UK would be possible by next week.

The UK government has bought 3.5m tests, which the health secretary, Matt Hancock, mentioned on Tuesday with no suggestion that they would be available to the public so quickly, and is ordering millions more.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days

US2 · 25-03-2020 02:57PM

Boggles wrote: »

Are you the one that went to the pub with every symptom of the virus?

Walter.

:rolleyes:

Yeah that's me. Managed to do a bit of fishing with all symptoms too

SDKev · 25-03-2020 02:57PM

Boggles wrote: »

Where is buying them?

PPE equipment is readily available in China, you could have it here within a few days

wakka12 · 25-03-2020 02:58PM

Is even the 6000 figure a bit of an overstimate by 31st March? It would mean Ireland having 800 or so new cases daily for the next 6 days like

bekker · 25-03-2020 02:58PM

setanta1984 wrote: »

Just got a notification from the Guardian for this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days
15 minute home test that is to be distributed by Amazon and made available for purchase in chemists by the public in the UK- "that could restore many people’s lives to a semblance of pre-lockdown normality" - available by next week they hope.

Game changer or false hope from an overly excited article? Says that many other countries are also ordering the tests.

Yes, NY company AFAIR, posted about it a few? days ago.

If we can get hold of sufficient number we should use them to conduct a programme of statistically valid random sample of population to establish virus penetration and rate of spread.

Effective forward planning needs hard data, not random numbers based on a cohort of those tested on a basis of filtered self-selection.

Big advantages of this test is speed and relative simplicity in application. It identifies up the asymptomatic, and too-little-affected to be bothered cohorts, both of which the swab tests miss.

But it not yet proven, but even with a significant error rate it's better than current method for statistical sampling.

Boggles · 25-03-2020 02:58PM

murpho999 wrote: »

I think the new measures are correct as I'd say many of the 40,000 have noting wrong with them and it would only result in wasted tests which ar enot finite.

Sure going at 6% only 2,400 would have the virus.

They have failed with what they tried to do, time to acknowledge that and move on.

Anyone trying to put a spin on it is to be ignored IMO.

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 02:58PM

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1242814082874572800?s=20

flynnlives · 25-03-2020 02:59PM

The problem with the 40k is the GP's.

They were referring anyone with a runny nose to get tested.

Its the same reason the A&E's were full, trigger happy GP's sending people to them. Then when restrictions come in miraculously
there is a dramatic drop in trolley numbers. In some cases last week there was no one on a trolley in a lot of hospitals.

GP's seem to abdicate their responsibility with any little ailment people present in surgeries with.

Boggles · 25-03-2020 02:59PM

SDKev wrote: »

PPE equipment is readily available in China, you could have it here within a few days

The government appear to be struggling to get it and they have an entire airline at their disposal.

I'm curious how Conor will get round it is all.

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 02:59PM

Boggles wrote: »

Sure going at 6% only 2,400 would have the virus.

They have failed with what they tried to do, time to acknowledge that and move on.

Anyone trying to put a spin on it is to be ignored IMO.

Duly ignored!

cnocbui · 25-03-2020 03:00PM

take everything wrote: »

Anyone know any sources/know how to make their own face mask.

Serious question.

Youtube has many video how-to's on the topic.

bekker · 25-03-2020 03:00PM

Seamai wrote: »

I find that drop in mobile accounts quite concerning if true, in a time of pandemics and lockdown mobile phones will be used a lot more, so why the drop?

C.....! Read the entire post.

crossman47 · 25-03-2020 03:00PM

I haven't read all this thread but has anyone mentioned that a couple coughed into the face of Simon Harris as he walked to his department and then ran away laughing. Despicable. He mentioned it in his news conference earlier.

cnocbui · 25-03-2020 03:01PM

flynnlives wrote: »

The problem with the 40k is the GP's.

They were referring anyone with a runny nose to get tested.

Its the same reason the A&E's were full, trigger happy GP's sending people to them. Then when restrictions come in miraculously
there is a dramatic drop in trolley numbers. In some cases last week there was no one on a trolley in a lot of hospitals.

GP's seem to abdicate their responsibility with any little ailment people present in surgeries with.

Is there a stupid post of the thread award somewhere?

SDKev · 25-03-2020 03:02PM

Boggles wrote: »

The government appear to be struggling to get it and they have an entire airline at their disposal.

I'm curious how Conor will get round it is all.

I agree, no idea how it’s taking them so long.

A supplier of mine in China who manufactures cable is now manufacturing the wire for the masks, he said lots of companies are doing similar - but Mask/gowns etc are all readily available

STB. · 25-03-2020 03:03PM

murpho999 wrote: »

I love all the experts on this thread.

Ignoring warning sign. You would swear this has been going on for years.

It's a rapidly developoing and unprecendented situation.

It takes time to set up facilities for mass testing, remember they have to be processed in labs.

I think the new measures are correct as I'd say many of the 40,000 have noting wrong with them and it would only result in wasted tests which ar enot finite.

You say we're heading down the wrong road but show me a country in Europe that is on the right road.

I think our numbers are low, and hopefully we keep it under control.

Please note I said "i think" as the truth is that nobody really knows. Especially people on the internet.

Well you're obviously not one of them.

You think, you assume, you'd say. How ironic.

You were obviously last in the queue that day. But don't panic. You can educate yourself, beyond you think, you assume, you'd say. I'd say the sky is the limit for you.

Clue: Its not a wild guessing game

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 03:03PM

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1242820789105315842?s=20

Strazdas · 25-03-2020 03:05PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Is even the 6000 figure a bit of an overstimate by 31st March? It would mean Ireland having 800 or so new cases daily for the next 6 days like

Yes, I've seen one estimate of about 3000 total cases by Tuesday, which sounds more realistic.

kowloon · 25-03-2020 03:05PM

I've also seen that a college party had to be tear-gassed to break up a crowd of hundreds.
People can be right spanners.

BorneTobyWilde · 25-03-2020 03:05PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I cannot speak to the authenticity nor do I give a Fvck what it is you think of Mcgregor.
I think it is great if he is in fact purchasing sought after PPE for medics.

https://twitter.com/KingMcgregorFC/status/1242811095242264577?s=20

It makes it looks like there is PPE available to him, but that the Government won't buy it. So weird that you have celebrities like Ronaldo saying things like '' I'm buying 10000 ventilators '' when no one else can buy one!

Seems so crazy.

flynnlives · 25-03-2020 03:06PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Is there a stupid post of the thread award somewhere?

explain the dramatic drop in A&E numbers?

I bet given access we would see a dramatic drop in referral letters to them.

There is simply no other explaination then less referrals from gp's to them.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP