CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

caveat emptor wrote: »

I couldn't give a fvck about him. Do we have enough PPE? I'm hearing from multiple sources we do not. Address the issue. Everything isn't about who you like and who you dislike. It's a crisis and you should focus on the issues while we have time to make a difference.

You obviously do in a way if you're basing your points on what he said, while saying you don't believe anything else.

There's no point in addressing anything you raise as you're saying you're not going to believe it anyway.

It's obvious we don't have enough PPE as don't most of the world. Watching CNN last night they will have to scale testing because of it.

I said a couple of weeks ago we have companies that manufacture the stuff in Ireland, they should have been "nationalized" on the sly.

caveat emptor wrote: »

Few questions this morning waking up to this nightmare. We are a rich country so I'm told.

• So we should go against WHO because we don't have capacity?
• Why do hospitals not have enough PPE. Is it because it doesn't work or we don't have enough?
• I don't believe a word at this stage.
• The government is holding press conference to drip drip drip info before it gets really bad here.

It's looking like there is not enough PPE for front line staff

Not interested in blame game or if you like paddy cosgrave. I'm interested in solving it immediately.

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1242493950155542528?s=20

can we please stop sharing Paddy f-ing Cosgrave
hes a jumped up event organiser, who has looked for details of deceased people to sell to foreign media outlets, AS PER HIS OWN ADMISSION

The HSE has address the PPE issue, we have sufficient for now, and have a shipment coming this week. Anything else is conspiracy BS.

The testing changes are ahppening because a)94% of people are negative and b) we are following WHO recommendations.

If you have just one symptom, then stay the f in doors and assume you do have the disease.

If you develop a fever and a respiratory symptom then call your GP and arrange a test. The test is just a confirmation.

If you're sick in any sense, then just self isolate. You shouldn't need the test to tell you this.

This is following the WHO definition of "a fever + x"

We are still testing and are going to test in huge numbers, but just with people showing definitive symptoms.

The rest of us, STAY AT HOME and this wont spread

Drumpot wrote: »

I can see several problems with this not least the problem when this settles down you have spoiled relations with those who had orders that could lead to other issues. There’s a lot that can go wrong with that. Imagine other countries who we are relying on for supplies started doing the same.

Germany did it.

"spoiled relations" can be fixed in the future.

touts wrote: »

With the change this morning to impose strict limits on who qualifies for tests it proves that the line "we have ordered plenty of tests and there will be no problem" was a fabrication designed to prevent panic.

As it spreads more, and with the ratio of those tested resulting in being positive over negative, it's entirely logical to concentrate on those with more than one symptom over someone with one.

Getting tested or not is going to make no difference to most people, even if they have it.

caveat emptor wrote: »

What do you do if you have a fatal pathogen and can't breath?
Answer get a ventilator.
What do you do if you have a fatal pathogen and can't breath and there aren't enough ventilators?
You die.

I just can't understand why you haven't been headhunted to run this whole thing. Surely a genius such as yourself would have the whole thing sorted in weeks. The HSE clearly needs someone that can type in bold and increased font size.

Naggdefy wrote: »

Same here. What I'm doing is about as non essential as it gets. Weeding old library books behind closed doors. Absolutely ridiculous that I'm travelling in to work where you have a set number of interactions a day, albeit distanced.

Surely redeployment would be better. But no, my bosses want to keep the sham of us doing essential work going as long as possible because they want to draw their normal salary, think what they are doing is important..

In the current climate ye should be grateful ye still have jobs to go to.there is people at home with nothing

Hurrache wrote: »

As it spreads more, and with the ratio of those tested resulting in being positive over negative, it's entirely logical to concentrate on those with more than one symptom over someone with one.

Getting tested or not is going to make no difference to most people, even if they have it.

It's going to make a huge difference to the folks trying to isolate from others, in a very confined space. Having people isolate for weeks on end, in cramped spaces is seriously detrimental to mental health and shouldn't be done if it isn't absolute necessary. Think of one parent stuck in a room for weeks trying to avoid passing to others, when they may not even have it, but can't get tested.

Some amount of b****ing the last few pages.

The issue of PPE is being addressed as mentioned in the press conference last night. We are not the only country experiencing these issues, we had to negotiate a deal with China to get PPE sent over. Every country affected needs more! There are also mass stockpiles ready to go. We aren't seeing nurses and doctors assessing patients without wearing PPE are we? Where is the proof of it if so? We have been told there is plenty of PPE on the way.