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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    South Korea on the rise again, this won't be over till the vaccine is out ...

    lockdown till then ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭martin101


    Shelly66 wrote: »
    I don’t think all that much has changed from yesterday regarding closures. Libraries and most gym already closed as where local hairdressers nail bars etc . So now we can all go to Woodies / hardwares etc as they are open !! Should only be open for tradesmen in mornings and if they make queue long enough will discourage ppl.

    Local construction site no distancing and they sit on local park bench together for lunch , !!

    Really don’t think much changed with regards distancing ppl


    Nothing will change. My boss told us all yesterday we are classed as essential workers so asked everyone to come in. All 50 of us into the office today doing non essential admin work. All with social distancing but still we are all due in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭Allinall


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Ref PPE word is staff have been told to shut up and not say anything about the shortage. Holohan I wouldn't trust that man as far as I could throw him

    Source for that claim?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor



    There are a lot of vested interests in US who will no fall in behind the Donalds change of tack. I'd take every single one of them with a massive grain of salt. "The Wall Street" part of the title should give you a clue. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Few questions this morning waking up to this nightmare. We are a rich country so I'm told.
    • So we should go against WHO because we don't have capacity?
    • Why do hospitals not have enough PPE. Is it because it doesn't work or we don't have enough?
    • I don't believe a word at this stage.
    • The government is holding press conference to drip drip drip info before it gets really bad here.

    It's looking like there is not enough PPE for front line staff

    Not interested in blame game or if you like paddy cosgrave. I'm interested in solving it immediately.

    https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1242493950155542528?s=20
    Can't help you with a lot of this as you've now put your fingers firmly in your ears but please stop quoting that tool. He's as bad as the WhatsApp crap. They've run low is what Henry said but big order expected starting from Sunday they said so that's sounds pretty immediate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    walshb wrote: »
    Has the criteria for testing changed? If so, will this mean more testing or less...

    I caught a bit of it this morning, but couldn't get the full story.

    Testing will be ramped up week on week. But they are focussing on people with symptoms with a higher likelyhood of having it ie. the fever bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    Few questions this morning waking up to this nightmare. We are a rich country so I'm told.
    • So we should go against WHO because we don't have capacity?
    • Why do hospitals not have enough PPE. Is it because it doesn't work or we don't have enough?
    • I don't believe a word at this stage.
    • The government is holding press conference to drip drip drip info before it gets really bad here.

    It's looking like there is not enough PPE for front line staff

    Not interested in blame game or if you like paddy cosgrave. I'm interested in solving it immediately.

    https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1242493950155542528?s=20

    Correct me if am wrong but i think most countries ran out of ppe thats why their is such high numbers of medical staff in italy who has the virus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    6 wrote: »
    Yes, fever plus one other symptom required.

    It'll mean priority cases get tested.



    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0325/1126202-those-seeking-test-must-display-two-major-symptoms/

    Priority! It's not fvcking Ryanair.

    They are making people think it's their fault for being sick.

    Why don't the own it and say sorry we don't have capacity. We are working with our private sector partners to acquire / borrow equipment and expertise to process the tests.
    • How many of these machines are in the state
    • why can't we use them to process the testing backlog
    • I get the feeling the government is too afraid to use it's power. We are too used to pussyfooting around mulitnationals.
    • Give them a tax break incentive. We are good at that.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146055/Army-seizes-testing-machines-ministers-race-carry-coronavirus-checks-NHS-staff.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    South Korea on the rise again, this won't be over till the vaccine is out ...

    lockdown till then ...

    Lockdown for the most of 2 years?

    Seriously will it feasible economically wise for the that length without either dole and pensions dropping to not even €100 a week or the health service suffering drastic shortages making the whole lockdown worthless as they won't have the supplies and equipment to carry on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Also S Korea flat and Germany possibly there with France and Italy slowing down. Definitely more positive signs than even a week ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭Allinall


    spookwoman wrote: »

    So you heard someone say that they heard someone say.........

    I'll treat that with the contempt it deserves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Indeed, you posted in the wrong thread.

    Hahaha. I had to check was this the conspiracy forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,559 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Much less. They couldnt handle the increased amount so now have to cut back again.

    So we may not know the true numbers affected for weeks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    wadacrack wrote: »

    Now allows china to push on with their economy and get ahead of the states while they just begin their crisis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Jin luk wrote: »
    Correct me if am wrong but i think most countries ran out of ppe thats why their is such high numbers of medical staff in italy who has the virus?

    Yes severe shortages there a medic in Italy reduced to wearing a plastic bag over his head. So I don't know why people would be surprised we are hitting a shortage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Did who update this policy?

    Haven't seen anything from WHO revising their policy. The Indo said it was an Irish decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Allinall wrote: »
    So you heard someone say that they heard someone say.........

    I'll treat that with the contempt it deserves.

    FFS with that attitude then everything we read or hear on the news is a lie :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Also S Korea flat and Germany possibly there with France and Italy slowing down.

    Yea testing seems crucial. We this ramping up for us. I hope it doesn't get too bad. It would have been relatively fine compared to the rest of europe if we acted sooner however


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Jin luk wrote: »
    Now allows china to push on with their economy and get ahead of the states while they just begin their crisis

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/B91NwUFleUR/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    lbj666 wrote: »
    Testing will be ramped up week on week. But they are focussing on people with symptoms with a higher likelyhood of having it ie. the fever bit.

    They must have to do this but they will miss some cases now.

    Claire Byrne for example never had a fever and would not be tested under the new criteria.

    I presume anyone with symptoms will be categorised as presumed positive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭Allinall


    spookwoman wrote: »
    FFS with that attitude then everything we read or hear on the news is a lie :rolleyes:

    I never mentioned a lie.

    It's not where you hear stuff that's important. It's who you hear it from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Did who update this policy?

    under a change recommended by the National Public Health Emergency Team.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Few questions this morning waking up to this nightmare. We are a rich country so I'm told.
    • So we should go against WHO because we don't have capacity?
    • Why do hospitals not have enough PPE. Is it because it doesn't work or we don't have enough?
    • I don't believe a word at this stage.
    • The government is holding press conference to drip drip drip info before it gets really bad here.

    It's looking like there is not enough PPE for front line staff

    Not interested in blame game or if you like paddy cosgrave. I'm interested in solving it immediately.

    https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1242493950155542528?s=20
    Jin luk wrote: »
    Correct me if am wrong but i think most countries ran out of ppe thats why their is such high numbers of medical staff in italy who has the virus?


    Do you accept that Ireland, one of the richest countries in the world by any measure, was not able to procure the necessary protective equipment for their frontline doctors and nurses and is effectively sending a proportion of them to their death in the service of their country.

    I don't. Get them now.


    It's like the scene in enemy at the gates were there was only one rifle for every 2 soldiers. We were horrified by that scene why are we not horrified by this? I saw the photos on twitter of a consultat training in the matter. They didn't look like the PPE in countries that were effected. Half arse job as per usual.

    I'm not interested in blame. I'd like some reassurance that they are doing extraordinary things to solve it.

    One out of two gets a rifle, one follows him!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭shinny


    Does anyone know how Mick Carton is doing? He hasn't updated on his Twitter page since letting everyone know he had it and that he was hospitalised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Haven't seen anything from WHO revising their policy. The Indo said it was an Irish decision.
    It's not a change in WHO testing policy. We've just redefined the definition by adding more criteria. I think they said they are using an updated WHO definition to do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Allinall wrote: »
    I never mentioned a lie.

    It's not where you hear stuff that's important. It's who you hear it from.

    jesus would you give over, you sound like trump.
    Here is another one from Dr Colm Henry HSE https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1241403523654397954?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Haven't seen anything from WHO revising their policy. The Indo said it was an Irish decision.

    They said it was WHO policy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,251 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    walshb wrote: »
    Has the criteria for testing changed? If so, will this mean more testing or less...

    I caught a bit of it this morning, but couldn't get the full story.

    It means more testing, but also more targeted testing where the criteria for community spread is minimum of fever and at least one other symptom.

    Frontline workers will be priority so if they test negative they can return to work earlier and if positive they can continue to isolate and have contact tracing to limit further spread

    The criteria was too low before and the system became overwhelmed. Someone overestimated the testing capacity or underestimated the number of hypochondriacs who demanded a test because they had a headache and a sore throat

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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