CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Jin luk · 25-03-2020 08:46AM

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1242628325995982848

Now allows china to push on with their economy and get ahead of the states while they just begin their crisis

Jurgen Klopp · 25-03-2020 08:46AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Correct me if am wrong but i think most countries ran out of ppe thats why their is such high numbers of medical staff in italy who has the virus?

Yes severe shortages there a medic in Italy reduced to wearing a plastic bag over his head. So I don't know why people would be surprised we are hitting a shortage

weldoninhio · 25-03-2020 08:47AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Did who update this policy?

Haven't seen anything from WHO revising their policy. The Indo said it was an Irish decision.

spookwoman · 25-03-2020 08:47AM

Allinall wrote: »

So you heard someone say that they heard someone say.........

I'll treat that with the contempt it deserves.

FFS with that attitude then everything we read or hear on the news is a lie :rolleyes:

wadacrack · 25-03-2020 08:48AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Also S Korea flat and Germany possibly there with France and Italy slowing down.

Yea testing seems crucial. We this ramping up for us. I hope it doesn't get too bad. It would have been relatively fine compared to the rest of europe if we acted sooner however

Hector Savage · 25-03-2020 08:48AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Now allows china to push on with their economy and get ahead of the states while they just begin their crisis

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B91NwUFleUR/

amadangomor · 25-03-2020 08:50AM

lbj666 wrote: »

Testing will be ramped up week on week. But they are focussing on people with symptoms with a higher likelyhood of having it ie. the fever bit.

They must have to do this but they will miss some cases now.

Claire Byrne for example never had a fever and would not be tested under the new criteria.

I presume anyone with symptoms will be categorised as presumed positive?

Allinall · 25-03-2020 08:50AM

spookwoman wrote: »

FFS with that attitude then everything we read or hear on the news is a lie :rolleyes:

I never mentioned a lie.

It's not where you hear stuff that's important. It's who you hear it from.

weldoninhio · 25-03-2020 08:51AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Did who update this policy?

under a change recommended by the National Public Health Emergency Team.

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 08:51AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Few questions this morning waking up to this nightmare. We are a rich country so I'm told.
So we should go against WHO because we don't have capacity?

Why do hospitals not have enough PPE. Is it because it doesn't work or we don't have enough?

I don't believe a word at this stage.

The government is holding press conference to drip drip drip info before it gets really bad here.

It's looking like there is not enough PPE for front line staff

Not interested in blame game or if you like paddy cosgrave. I'm interested in solving it immediately.

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1242493950155542528?s=20

Jin luk wrote: »

Correct me if am wrong but i think most countries ran out of ppe thats why their is such high numbers of medical staff in italy who has the virus?

Do you accept that Ireland, one of the richest countries in the world by any measure, was not able to procure the necessary protective equipment for their frontline doctors and nurses and is effectively sending a proportion of them to their death in the service of their country.

I don't. Get them now.

It's like the scene in enemy at the gates were there was only one rifle for every 2 soldiers. We were horrified by that scene why are we not horrified by this? I saw the photos on twitter of a consultat training in the matter. They didn't look like the PPE in countries that were effected. Half arse job as per usual.

I'm not interested in blame. I'd like some reassurance that they are doing extraordinary things to solve it.

One out of two gets a rifle, one follows him!

shinny · 25-03-2020 08:51AM

Does anyone know how Mick Carton is doing? He hasn't updated on his Twitter page since letting everyone know he had it and that he was hospitalised.

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 08:53AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Haven't seen anything from WHO revising their policy. The Indo said it was an Irish decision.

It's not a change in WHO testing policy. We've just redefined the definition by adding more criteria. I think they said they are using an updated WHO definition to do that.

spookwoman · 25-03-2020 08:53AM

Allinall wrote: »

I never mentioned a lie.

It's not where you hear stuff that's important. It's who you hear it from.

jesus would you give over, you sound like trump.
Here is another one from Dr Colm Henry HSE https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1241403523654397954?s=20

Hurrache · 25-03-2020 08:53AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Haven't seen anything from WHO revising their policy. The Indo said it was an Irish decision.

They said it was WHO policy.

Akrasia · 25-03-2020 08:54AM

walshb wrote: »

Has the criteria for testing changed? If so, will this mean more testing or less...

I caught a bit of it this morning, but couldn't get the full story.

It means more testing, but also more targeted testing where the criteria for community spread is minimum of fever and at least one other symptom.

Frontline workers will be priority so if they test negative they can return to work earlier and if positive they can continue to isolate and have contact tracing to limit further spread

The criteria was too low before and the system became overwhelmed. Someone overestimated the testing capacity or underestimated the number of hypochondriacs who demanded a test because they had a headache and a sore throat

Sweet.Science · 25-03-2020 08:54AM

shinny wrote: »

Does anyone know how Mick Carton is doing? He hasn't updated on his Twitter page since letting everyone know he had it and that he was hospitalised.

Getting out today i think . I heard he was unwell for months leading up to getting it

Stateofyou · 25-03-2020 08:54AM

lbj666 wrote: »

Testing will be ramped up week on week. But they are focussing on people with symptoms with a higher likelyhood of having it ie. the fever bit.

That's not true. I know for a fact it's not a symptom that needs to be present in order to qualify for testing.

25-03-2020 08:55AM

The RTE site has all the facts. I've found them excellent for reporting on this crisis.

weldoninhio · 25-03-2020 08:55AM

6 wrote: »

If we are had unlimited resources and test kits I'd say we'd test everyone. Need to prioritise.

I thought we were following the South Korean example. Funny how we are when it suits.

"The backbone of Korea’s success has been mass, indiscriminate testing"

shinny · 25-03-2020 08:55AM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Getting out today i think . I heard he was unwell for months leading up to getting it

Oh really, ok thanks for the update.

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 08:55AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Can't help you with a lot of this as you've now put your fingers firmly in your ears but please stop quoting that tool. He's as bad as the WhatsApp crap. They've run low is what Henry said but big order expected starting from Sunday they said so that's sounds pretty immediate.

I advised a relative in early January to but gear now. Showed her the website to order from. Arrived in a week. When the paltry four surgical masks arrived at the GP practice she was glad of it.

Now if I could fvcking see it coming why could they now. Worse case it would have been the cheapest insurance policy in history.

TheAsYLuMkeY · 25-03-2020 08:55AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Few questions this morning waking up to this nightmare. We are a rich country so I'm told.
So we should go against WHO because we don't have capacity?

Why do hospitals not have enough PPE. Is it because it doesn't work or we don't have enough?

I don't believe a word at this stage.

The government is holding press conference to drip drip drip info before it gets really bad here.

It's looking like there is not enough PPE for front line staff

Not interested in blame game or if you like paddy cosgrave. I'm interested in solving it immediately.

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1242493950155542528?s=20

can i clear up what i know in relation to PPE.

I deal with one of the biggest PPE suppliers in the country for our business,

They have contracts with the HSE and the Defence forces also.

My discussion with my contact last week in relation the PPE we buy here, specifically masks, I had told him to ensure the health services were kept fully stocked before he came with any offer to me, we can get by without them if necessary.

He told me that the HSE and defence forces had huge stocks brought in before this hit, they are fully stocked, and more containers of PPE were on route already more than a week ago to Ireland.

Same company as of yesterday has an enormous order of masks secured to be dispatched to Ireland starting today to accompany this.

Stop panicking over the PPE, we will be ok here from what I have been reassured.

25-03-2020 08:56AM

walshb wrote: »

Has the criteria for testing changed? If so, will this mean more testing or less...

I caught a bit of it this morning, but couldn't get the full story.

There is going to be more testing, the labs are obviously at capacity. We don't have unlimited resources though so targeting who gets tested takes priority, you need to test close contacts etc before a hypochondriac with a sniffle.

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 08:56AM

Akrasia wrote: »

It means more testing, but also more targeted testing where the criteria for community spread is minimum of fever and at least one other symptom.

Frontline workers will be priority so if they test negative they can return to work earlier and if positive they can continue to isolate and have contact tracing to limit further spread

The criteria was too low before and the system became overwhelmed. Someone overestimated the testing capacity or underestimated the number of hypochondriacs who demanded a test because they had a headache and a sore throat

Might there also be cases of some GPs putting people down for it anyway, just in case?

amadangomor · 25-03-2020 08:57AM

Stateofyou wrote: »

That's not true. I know for a fact it's not a symptom that needs to be present in order to qualify for testing.

That's the whole point we are discussing. Fever has to be present now under the new criteria.

lawred2 · 25-03-2020 08:57AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Priority! It's not fvcking Ryanair.

They are making people think it's their fault for being sick.

Why don't the own it and say sorry we don't have capacity. We are working with our private sector partners to acquire / borrow equipment and expertise to process the tests.
How many of these machines are in the state

why can't we use them to process the testing backlog

I get the feeling the government is too afraid to use it's power. We are too used to pussyfooting around mulitnationals.

Give them a tax break incentive. We are good at that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146055/Army-seizes-testing-machines-ministers-race-carry-coronavirus-checks-NHS-staff.html

What are you on about? Every single day of every single year people are treated in healthcare on a priority basis.

Hurrache · 25-03-2020 08:57AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1242493950155542528?s=20

It can't be said enough times, that guy is a prick, his bull**** was even called out during the briefing yesterday, and all over the web.

You said you don't believe anything, and yet you're reposting that asshole.

Lewis_Benson · 25-03-2020 08:59AM

perrito caliente wrote: »

What's the story with the kebab meat you guys have on those giant rolling pins?? Is that a part of an animal or just "re-pressed flesh"?

"Flesh" would be going a little too far...

amadangomor · 25-03-2020 08:59AM

Renee Kind Historian wrote: »

There is going to be more testing, the labs are obviously at capacity. We don't have unlimited resources though so targeting who gets tested takes priority, you need to test close contacts etc before a hypochondriac with a sniffle.

Would you ever fk off with your hypochondriac ****e. What evidence do you have of that?

They are overstretched and have to prioritise, you are taking a leap saying hypochondriacs are clogging up the system.

weldoninhio · 25-03-2020 09:00AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Priority! It's not fvcking Ryanair.

They are making people think it's their fault for being sick.

Why don't the own it and say sorry we don't have capacity. We are working with our private sector partners to acquire / borrow equipment and expertise to process the tests.
How many of these machines are in the state

why can't we use them to process the testing backlog

I get the feeling the government is too afraid to use it's power. We are too used to pussyfooting around mulitnationals.

Give them a tax break incentive. We are good at that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146055/Army-seizes-testing-machines-ministers-race-carry-coronavirus-checks-NHS-staff.html

There is a reason Leo hired a PR team before anything else.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP