CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

tuxy · 25-03-2020 07:18AM

Tony EH wrote: »

But...Public health care is socialism, dontcha know.

Yes and if you allow any socialism system to come into place then one day you will wake up and boom! the country has gone full communism.

Jurgen Klopp · 25-03-2020 07:29AM

Some bits good news. Quicky built ventilator by a Welsh former army medic has not only had a good run trial with a cvoid patient in Wales but 4 hospitals have taken prototypes after assessment and modifications after consultants examined them

Various companies such as Dyson, McClaren and Rolls Royce are currently building too

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8149559/ROBERT-HARDMAN-Miraculous-British-ingenuity-help-save-lives-make-spirits-soar.html

Something else, the US has started to use plasma from recovered patients in treatment, the main problem is a low amount of recovered patients to supply what's needed

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8147631/Can-blood-coronavirus-survivors-treat-newly-ill.html

Tony EH · 25-03-2020 07:34AM

MipMap wrote: »

I'm 65 and when I was their age I was just the same.
We didn't have a virus, we had the threat of a nuclear war and we
didn't give a sh1t about it. We lived for today and that is what they are doing.

There wasn't much a 20 something could do about a nuclear war, was there.

These **** are just being asked to stay home for a wee bit and they can't even do that.

DellyBelly · 25-03-2020 07:35AM

If you get it and recover would that mean your immune from it now so you won't get it again? I'm asking cause I had what I believe might have been it back in November. Symptoms were very similar to what seems to be covid19.

Also one of my friends was saying a hot drink in your mouth can kill it? Not sure if true but I'm drinking about 10 cups of tea a day at the moment... Ha ha

25-03-2020 07:38AM

MipMap wrote: »

I'm 65 and when I was their age I was just the same.
We didn't have a virus, we had the threat of a nuclear war and we
didn't give a sh1t about it. We lived for today and that is what they are doing.

Was there a chance of you passing nuclear war onto the person next to you? These people are idiots.

Quantum Erasure · 25-03-2020 07:38AM

tuxy wrote: »

Imagine the kind of thinking that goes into the logic that if you had a flu or cold in the last 4 months that was debilitating then it could only have been covid-19

If it goes back that far that means our ICU's were completely overrun with many dying around Christmas time, yet it wasn't reported on.
Also it was just a coincidence that a strain of influenza(typical winter increase in influenza) was identified to be spreading in Ireland around that time.

quoting this from last night...

darjeeling wrote: »

I've posted about this before in one or two of these threads, and I don't think it's possible that it was here before mid-Jan for several different reasons.

1) The reports of flu-like illness (red lines below) correlated perfectly with detected influenza viruses (bars) over the flu season, just like previous years.
It's only in the last two weeks that flu symptoms are increasing while detected flu is decreasing (circled).

2) There are now over a thousand complete viral genome sequences from patients all over the world, all showing mutations that pick up over time.
Tracking back computationally to find the common ancestor of all of them shows that it's genomes from China, including Wuhan, that are at the origin of everything, and that the origin dates to ~Nov-Dec 2019.
The sequences from the US, from Europe, from Australia etc all radiate out from that origin.

3) The pathology is different - doctors in China got very good at detecting COVID-19 using CT scans, and there are quite distinct cellular features seen on autopsy. These were not noted in Dec & Jan here.

Hamsterchops · 25-03-2020 07:47AM

DellyBelly wrote: »

If you get it and recover would that mean your immune from it now so you won't get it again? I'm asking cause I had what I believe might have been it back in November. Symptoms were very similar to what seems to be covid19.

Also one of my friends was saying a hot drink in your mouth can kill it? Not sure if true but I'm drinking about 10 cups of tea a day at the moment... Ha ha

Matt Hancock/UK health secretary; "All the evidence is that you can't catch this twice, at least in quick succession"

He was making reference to Nadine Dorries MP who contracted CoVid19 a couple of weeks ago but is now back sitting in Westminster. .

SkY News http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nadine-dorries-applauded-as-she-returns-to-commons-after-covid-19-recovery-11963026

Blueshoe · 25-03-2020 07:50AM

DellyBelly wrote: »

If you get it and recover would that mean your immune from it now so you won't get it again? I'm asking cause I had what I believe might have been it back in November. Symptoms were very similar to what seems to be covid19.

Also one of my friends was saying a hot drink in your mouth can kill it? Not sure if true but I'm drinking about 10 cups of tea a day at the moment... Ha ha

No you didn't have it in November.
No hot drinks will not kill it.

Unless

You were living in China in November. Wuhan area
You drank molten aluminium. Would kill you though

Ficheall · 25-03-2020 07:54AM

DellyBelly wrote: »

Symptoms were very similar to what seems to be covid19.

Were they also similar to something like, perhaps, the flu?

DellyBelly wrote: »

If you get it and recover would that mean your immune from it now so you won't get it again? I'm asking cause I had what I believe might have been it back in November.

Also one of my friends was saying a hot drink in your mouth can kill it? Not sure if true but I'm drinking about 10 cups of tea a day at the moment... Ha ha

This is the danger with people speculating that they have already had Covid-19. People who will believe literally anything will be convincing themselves they have acquired immunity, and no longer need to take precautions.

25-03-2020 07:56AM

This is very encouraging

Dr Holohan said it was “very encouraging” that the average number of contacts in confirmed cases had dropped from 20 last week to about five

25-03-2020 08:00AM

Arghus wrote: »

Can't believe that I'm reading people on here seriously entertaining the notion that the dose they got back in Winter was Covid 19.

It wasn't.

I got that dose on January 5th. I passed it on to my dad. If it were COVID19 he would be dead but amoxicillin had his chest feeling better within a few days.

IT WAS NOT COVID19

25-03-2020 08:04AM

Ficheall wrote: »

It was tested, and the infections here before Christmas were not Covid-19, but some people are spectacularly dense and for some reason wish to entertain the delusion that they have already had their dose of the pandemic.

I’m assuming that the dose over Christmas will form part of the flu vaccine at the end of this year?

lawred2 · 25-03-2020 08:07AM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Fever above 38 °C + one of the following..
Cough ,any kind
Shortness of breath
Breathing difficulties

Info is readily available on HSE.ie Coronavirus pages and updated every day.

If you are unwell ring your GP, and if you are referred for a test you will need to self isolate and your household will have to restrict their movements , that means not going to work. Again all on the above site.
This has been changed from people only restricted if close contact or household of a CONFIRMED case, probably because there is such a backlog of people waiting to be tested.
7 to10 days at present as those new test sites are only up and running this week.

Loss of taste and smell widely being reported as symptoms as well

25-03-2020 08:09AM

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Some bits good news. Quicky built ventilator by a Welsh former army medic has not only had a good run trial with a cvoid patient in Wales but 4 hospitals have taken prototypes after assessment and modifications after consultants examined them

Various companies such as Dyson, McClaren and Rolls Royce are currently building too

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8149559/ROBERT-HARDMAN-Miraculous-British-ingenuity-help-save-lives-make-spirits-soar.html

Something else, the US has started to use plasma from recovered patients in treatment, the main problem is a low amount of recovered patients to supply what's needed

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8147631/Can-blood-coronavirus-survivors-treat-newly-ill.html

There was a post here a while back showing the blood type breakdown of those infected. I wonder if information is being collated since it’s arrival into Europe?

I’m rhesus B neg. I think A type was the most common in patients tested.

25-03-2020 08:11AM

Anyone awaiting a test with a cough only are now probably not in scope I'd assume?

greenpilot · 25-03-2020 08:13AM

I lost my job a week ago. 4 Kids and a Mortgage.
Last night, for the first time in around 10 years, I slept well.
My wife and I sat on the floor in front of the stove talking ****e until 2am. We haven't done this in years as we have both been working. (Turns out she's sound enough!)
My teenagers have begun to read books again.
No more aircraft flying over the house. You only notice this when it stops. We live near Knock Airport.
Yesterday, I showed my son how to fish. We caught nothing, but he told me he had the best day ever.

People are calling this to end, and it will. But I can tell you one thing, it has placed a mirror on humanity and I don't think things will go back to the way it was.
I haven't a bean. But I couldn't be happier, despite the horror around me.

RollieFingers · 25-03-2020 08:15AM

Haven't seen much of a difference around after Varadkar's announcement yesterday, actually seems to be more people about for this time of the morning in the city, and the bus I just got off was much busier than the previous two days.

amadangomor · 25-03-2020 08:16AM

maebee wrote: »

I shared a what's app of a vid of ppl in cars queuing for testing today in Pairc Ui Chaoimh (don't know how to share it here) to a friend in Scotland, who was baffled by it. He's (loosely) in the medical profession and told me that there's no such thing as "public" testing there. It's only done when you get to the hospital stage. If you want to get a private test it will cost you £350 !!!. He was amazed when I told him that we've set up 30+ centres in the past week and that ppl with symptoms are getting tested for free. This little island of ours is a million miles ahead of the "big boys".

For all our failings as a country the government do care about the people when it comes down to something like this. Was tough when we became independent but looks like it certainly worked out in the end.

Scotland had the chance of Independence and didn't take it. I wonder when they see the antics of Boris and the Tories who only care about big business, will they go for it next time.

25-03-2020 08:16AM

6 wrote: »

Anyone awaiting a test with a cough only are now probably not in scope I'd assume?

If they only have a cough they should stop ringing the doctors asking and asking about when they will be tested. If they develop more symptoms, that’s when they should contact and update their doctor.

Sligo testing centre should be up and running today or tomorrow. Currently they have 8 cases. I hope it stays that way.

harr · 25-03-2020 08:18AM

So gone from testing anyone with even mild symptoms back to testing those with only certain symptoms. So what happened to not everyone gets the same symptoms , surely better to test as many as possible but to prioritise health care workers . So for people with mild symptoms they won’t be tested and in turn won’t be added to official figures.
Is this a backward step ? I know the directive is from WHO.

25-03-2020 08:21AM

harr wrote: »

So gone from testing anyone with even mild symptoms back to testing those with only certain symptoms. So what happened to not everyone gets the same symptoms , surely better to test as many as possible but to prioritise health care workers . So for people with mild symptoms they won’t be tested and in turn won’t be added to official figures.
Is this a backward step ? I know the directive is from WHO.

It's a forward step. It'll free up testing spots and let us prioritise testing for people who really need it.

macnug · 25-03-2020 08:21AM

snoopboggybog wrote: »

I'm a bit worried. So say we isolate for three months and everything goes back to normal what happens if a major outbreak starts happening again? Do we all self isolate again?

Its a bit worrying that no vaccine has been produced after nearly three months. To get the amount needed for the over 60's and people with underlying medical conditions could take a long long time for the entire world. I'm no medical expert but could it be a few years before the vaccine is readily available if one ever is?

I just want this to end.

Theres been a few vaccines developed it just takes time to see if they work and they dont have any major side effects.

https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/news/china-covid-19-vaccine-trial-begins/

Ficheall · 25-03-2020 08:22AM

harr wrote: »

So gone from testing anyone with even mild symptoms back to testing those with only certain symptoms. So what happened to not everyone gets the same symptoms , surely better to test as many as possible but to prioritise health care workers . So for people with mild symptoms they won’t be tested and in turn won’t be added to official figures.
Is this a backward step ? I know the directive is from WHO.

As many as possible, but (aside from healthcare workers) prioritize people with more symptoms - eg., if you can only test one person a day, better for it to be John who has a cough and a fever, than Mary who only has a cough. Then if no one else more urgent comes along, you can test Mary tomorrow.

pc7 · 25-03-2020 08:23AM

Greenpilot what a lovely post, wishing you and the family the best for the future.

amadangomor · 25-03-2020 08:23AM

6 wrote: »

Anyone awaiting a test with a cough only are now probably not in scope I'd assume?

I presume you will still be in the queue for testing. It said on RTE website that the new criteria is for new cases i.e. from now on.

"New rules have been introduced for Covid-19 testing, which means patients will need to meet revised criteria to qualify in future."

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0325/1126202-those-seeking-test-must-display-two-major-symptoms/

25-03-2020 08:25AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I got that dose on January 5th. I passed it on to my dad. If it were COVID19 he would be dead but amoxicillin had his chest feeling better within a few days.

IT WAS NOT COVID19

Why would he be dead?

amadangomor · 25-03-2020 08:26AM

6 wrote: »

It's a forward step. It'll free up testing spots and let us prioritise testing for people who really need it.

There will be people who really need it who will not be tested because of this but if testing capacity is limited they have no other choice other than to try and weed out the more serious cases.

25-03-2020 08:27AM

amadangomor wrote: »

I presume you will still be in the queue for testing. It said on RTE website that the new criteria is for new cases i.e. from now on.

"New rules have been introduced for Covid-19 testing, which means patients will need to meet revised criteria to qualify in future."

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0325/1126202-those-seeking-test-must-display-two-major-symptoms/

Nope, you now won't be tested. These people will need to contact their GP. They'll only get a test presumably if they fall into the new category.

From your article

All patients who have not yet been swabbed, and who do not have an appointment for a test date, will not now be tested and will be required to reengage with their GP.

amadangomor · 25-03-2020 08:28AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why would he be dead?

Holy **** we did not have Covid-19 here after Christmas!! Present evidence or be quiet with this anecdotal BS.

25-03-2020 08:31AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why would he be dead?

He has a tracheotomy. Had a severe stroke in 2016. Developed epilepsy. Is catheterised and the slightest hint of a urinary tract infection wipes him out and if a UTI takes hold (which it does on occasion) he doesn’t even know we are in the room with him.

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