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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,921 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Other generations did things like bring Hitler to his knees with great sacrifice and all we are being asked to do is stay on our couch and talk on skype etc instead of in person. Of course it's doable ffs
    100%

    All we have to do is leave each other the fûck alone. In most circumstances it’s not difficult !

    Think !....

    ‘I’m feeling a bit down and lonely, I’m a social person who thrives from being with people, family, friends, work colleagues...’

    ... you’ll be feeling plenty down and lonely if you and or your family, friends and work colleagues are lying on the flat of your back in a hospital bed or morgue, because that is the reality to people not respecting social distancing.

    So if you are needy, lonely, needing attention, feeling a little sad, divorced from society, THAT is GREAT.... !!! They are great feelings, it means you are alive, adhering to social distancing for you and everyone so that we ALL stay well and alive. :rolleyes:

    Cop the fûck on, be lonely or be dead.... social distancing keeps us alive, be disciplined, think of your country and EVERYONE in it , DISTANCE !!! BE VIGILANT !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,999 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Can't believe that I'm reading people on here seriously entertaining the notion that the dose they got back in Winter was Covid 19.

    It wasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Might be a sudden thing though, seemingly they have very changeable weather...

    Why are people assuming heat will kill this? It’s a new disease so anything can go with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Arghus wrote: »
    Can't believe that I'm reading people on here seriously entertaining the notion that the dose they got back in Winter was Covid 19.

    It wasn't.

    Can we test if someone has had it in the past?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭Cyclonius


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Why are people assuming heat will kill this? It’s a new disease so anything can go with it

    It's a hold-over from everyone comparing it to the flu, and the reduction of flu cases that we see in late Spring/Summer. Given that much warmer climates than ours are experiencing big problems with it at present, it's highly unlikely that a couple of weeks of good weather will see everything return to normal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭DisneyLover


    Anyone know how long results are taking for swabs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭snoopboggybog


    I'm a bit worried. So say we isolate for three months and everything goes back to normal what happens if a major outbreak starts happening again? Do we all self isolate again?

    Its a bit worrying that no vaccine has been produced after nearly three months. To get the amount needed for the over 60's and people with underlying medical conditions could take a long long time for the entire world. I'm no medical expert but could it be a few years before the vaccine is readily available if one ever is?

    I just want this to end.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Can we test if someone has had it in the past?

    Yes, but those (serology) tests are widely available just yet. Not sure when they will be.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I'm a bit worried. So say we isolate for three months and everything goes back to normal what happens if a major outbreak starts happening again? Do we all self isolate again?

    Its a bit worrying that no vaccine has been produced after nearly three months. To get the amount needed for the over 60's and people with underlying medical conditions could take a long long time for the entire world. I'm no medical expert but could it be a few years before the vaccine is readily available if one ever is?

    I just want this to end.

    Vaccine *should* be available by next year. Spring/summer maybe?

    Pandemics usually come in waves, so after the coming peak passes in a few weeks, maybe we might get a reprieve? I really don't know.

    It's not so bad being inside though is it?
    I find it quite relaxing, that's just me though.
    I'm lucky to be able to work from home.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Arghus wrote: »
    Can't believe that I'm reading people on here seriously entertaining the notion that the dose they got back in Winter was Covid 19.

    It wasn't.

    I had a bad dose myself as well. But people around me weren't getting sick. So 100% sure I did not have Covid 19. Wish people stop thinking they're immune from this. And even if you catch this and build immunity, you still have to go around and keep up the cleaning as well, you can still carry the virus on your clothes, bag, shoes, etc and can pass it on like that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭snoopboggybog


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Vaccine *should* be available by next year. Spring/summer maybe?

    Pandemics usually come in waves, so after the coming peak passes in a few weeks, maybe we might get a reprieve? I really don't know.

    It's not so bad being inside though is it?
    I find it quite relaxing, that's just me though.
    I'm lucky to be able to work from home.

    Working myself from home for the last two weeks and for the foreseeable future.

    Still though the uncertainty of what's going to happen is mind boggling, particularly with the economy.

    Even with the vaccine it's only going to be administered to over 60's and people with underlying medical conditions so we are all going to get it eventually and risk been hospitalized.

    It's only a matter of time before everyone gets it or else society will fully collapse. A lot of young people been hospitalized with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Can we test if someone has had it in the past?
    It was tested, and the infections here before Christmas were not Covid-19, but some people are spectacularly dense and for some reason wish to entertain the delusion that they have already had their dose of the pandemic.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Working myself from home for the last two weeks and for the foreseeable future.

    Still though the uncertainty of what's going to happen is mind boggling, particularly with the economy.

    Even with the vaccine it's only going to be administered to over 60's and people with underlying medical conditions so we are all going to get it eventually and risk been hospitalized.

    It's only a matter of time before everyone gets it or else society will fully collapse. A lot of young people been hospitalized with it.

    For me anyway, I try not to worry about all the things I can't control. I'm concerned for my parents, but am in touch with them every day via phone/video.

    For now, I'm enjoying my time at home and growing my hair long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Ficheall wrote: »
    It was tested, and the infections here before Christmas were not Covid-19, but some people are spectacularly dense and for some reason wish to entertain the delusion that they have already had their dose of the pandemic.

    Imagine the kind of thinking that goes into the logic that if you had a flu or cold in the last 4 months that was debilitating then it could only have been covid-19

    If it goes back that far that means our ICU's were completely overrun with many dying around Christmas time, yet it wasn't reported on.
    Also it was just a coincidence that a strain of influenza(typical winter increase in influenza) was identified to be spreading in Ireland around that time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    A woman in the Land of the Free was billed $34,927.43 for Covid-19 testing and treatment.

    https://time.com/5806312/coronavirus-treatment-cost/

    But...Public health care is socialism, dontcha know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Tony EH wrote: »
    But...Public health care is socialism, dontcha know.

    Yes and if you allow any socialism system to come into place then one day you will wake up and boom! the country has gone full communism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Some bits good news. Quicky built ventilator by a Welsh former army medic has not only had a good run trial with a cvoid patient in Wales but 4 hospitals have taken prototypes after assessment and modifications after consultants examined them

    Various companies such as Dyson, McClaren and Rolls Royce are currently building too

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8149559/ROBERT-HARDMAN-Miraculous-British-ingenuity-help-save-lives-make-spirits-soar.html

    Something else, the US has started to use plasma from recovered patients in treatment, the main problem is a low amount of recovered patients to supply what's needed

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8147631/Can-blood-coronavirus-survivors-treat-newly-ill.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    MipMap wrote: »
    I'm 65 and when I was their age I was just the same.
    We didn't have a virus, we had the threat of a nuclear war and we
    didn't give a sh1t about it. We lived for today and that is what they are doing.



    There wasn't much a 20 something could do about a nuclear war, was there.

    These **** are just being asked to stay home for a wee bit and they can't even do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    If you get it and recover would that mean your immune from it now so you won't get it again? I'm asking cause I had what I believe might have been it back in November. Symptoms were very similar to what seems to be covid19.

    Also one of my friends was saying a hot drink in your mouth can kill it? Not sure if true but I'm drinking about 10 cups of tea a day at the moment... Ha ha


  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Eliezer Hallowed Whirlpool


    MipMap wrote: »
    I'm 65 and when I was their age I was just the same.
    We didn't have a virus, we had the threat of a nuclear war and we
    didn't give a sh1t about it. We lived for today and that is what they are doing.

    Was there a chance of you passing nuclear war onto the person next to you? These people are idiots.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,442 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    tuxy wrote: »
    Imagine the kind of thinking that goes into the logic that if you had a flu or cold in the last 4 months that was debilitating then it could only have been covid-19

    If it goes back that far that means our ICU's were completely overrun with many dying around Christmas time, yet it wasn't reported on.
    Also it was just a coincidence that a strain of influenza(typical winter increase in influenza) was identified to be spreading in Ireland around that time.

    quoting this from last night...
    darjeeling wrote: »
    I've posted about this before in one or two of these threads, and I don't think it's possible that it was here before mid-Jan for several different reasons.


    1) The reports of flu-like illness (red lines below) correlated perfectly with detected influenza viruses (bars) over the flu season, just like previous years.
    It's only in the last two weeks that flu symptoms are increasing while detected flu is decreasing (circled).

    506454.png

    2) There are now over a thousand complete viral genome sequences from patients all over the world, all showing mutations that pick up over time.
    Tracking back computationally to find the common ancestor of all of them shows that it's genomes from China, including Wuhan, that are at the origin of everything, and that the origin dates to ~Nov-Dec 2019.
    The sequences from the US, from Europe, from Australia etc all radiate out from that origin.

    3) The pathology is different - doctors in China got very good at detecting COVID-19 using CT scans, and there are quite distinct cellular features seen on autopsy. These were not noted in Dec & Jan here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    If you get it and recover would that mean your immune from it now so you won't get it again? I'm asking cause I had what I believe might have been it back in November. Symptoms were very similar to what seems to be covid19.

    Also one of my friends was saying a hot drink in your mouth can kill it? Not sure if true but I'm drinking about 10 cups of tea a day at the moment... Ha ha

    Matt Hancock/UK health secretary; "All the evidence is that you can't catch this twice, at least in quick succession"

    He was making reference to Nadine Dorries MP who contracted CoVid19 a couple of weeks ago but is now back sitting in Westminster. .

    SkY News http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nadine-dorries-applauded-as-she-returns-to-commons-after-covid-19-recovery-11963026


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    If you get it and recover would that mean your immune from it now so you won't get it again? I'm asking cause I had what I believe might have been it back in November. Symptoms were very similar to what seems to be covid19.

    Also one of my friends was saying a hot drink in your mouth can kill it? Not sure if true but I'm drinking about 10 cups of tea a day at the moment... Ha ha

    No you didn't have it in November.
    No hot drinks will not kill it.

    Unless

    You were living in China in November. Wuhan area
    You drank molten aluminium. Would kill you though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    Symptoms were very similar to what seems to be covid19.
    Were they also similar to something like, perhaps, the flu?


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    If you get it and recover would that mean your immune from it now so you won't get it again? I'm asking cause I had what I believe might have been it back in November.


    Also one of my friends was saying a hot drink in your mouth can kill it? Not sure if true but I'm drinking about 10 cups of tea a day at the moment... Ha ha
    This is the danger with people speculating that they have already had Covid-19. People who will believe literally anything will be convincing themselves they have acquired immunity, and no longer need to take precautions.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is very encouraging
    Dr Holohan said it was “very encouraging” that the average number of contacts in confirmed cases had dropped from 20 last week to about five


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Arghus wrote: »
    Can't believe that I'm reading people on here seriously entertaining the notion that the dose they got back in Winter was Covid 19.

    It wasn't.

    I got that dose on January 5th. I passed it on to my dad. If it were COVID19 he would be dead but amoxicillin had his chest feeling better within a few days.

    IT WAS NOT COVID19


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ficheall wrote: »
    It was tested, and the infections here before Christmas were not Covid-19, but some people are spectacularly dense and for some reason wish to entertain the delusion that they have already had their dose of the pandemic.

    I’m assuming that the dose over Christmas will form part of the flu vaccine at the end of this year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,075 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Fever above 38 °C + one of the following..
    Cough ,any kind
    Shortness of breath
    Breathing difficulties

    Info is readily available on HSE.ie Coronavirus pages and updated every day.

    If you are unwell ring your GP, and if you are referred for a test you will need to self isolate and your household will have to restrict their movements , that means not going to work. Again all on the above site.
    This has been changed from people only restricted if close contact or household of a CONFIRMED case, probably because there is such a backlog of people waiting to be tested.
    7 to10 days at present as those new test sites are only up and running this week.

    Loss of taste and smell widely being reported as symptoms as well


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some bits good news. Quicky built ventilator by a Welsh former army medic has not only had a good run trial with a cvoid patient in Wales but 4 hospitals have taken prototypes after assessment and modifications after consultants examined them

    Various companies such as Dyson, McClaren and Rolls Royce are currently building too

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8149559/ROBERT-HARDMAN-Miraculous-British-ingenuity-help-save-lives-make-spirits-soar.html

    Something else, the US has started to use plasma from recovered patients in treatment, the main problem is a low amount of recovered patients to supply what's needed

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8147631/Can-blood-coronavirus-survivors-treat-newly-ill.html

    There was a post here a while back showing the blood type breakdown of those infected. I wonder if information is being collated since it’s arrival into Europe?

    I’m rhesus B neg. I think A type was the most common in patients tested.


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  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone awaiting a test with a cough only are now probably not in scope I'd assume?


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