CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

citysights wrote: »

I don’t think we’ll go back to the way we were before. Well need to rethink things, even the fact of the Venice canals being full of fish after so long might make us consider our effects on the planet......

Nope. it'll be back to business as usual as soon as possible, if not before

Spare a thought for your local burglar at this testing time. My area was plagued by such uninvited guests shortly before this outbreak. Reports of such enterings are zero these days, with practically everyone home they can’t get a look in.

One positive at least.

Do you not think it is completely daft that RTE.ie states in each COVID-19 update that?:

“Generally, you need to be 15 minutes or more in the vicinity of an infected person, within 1-2 metres, to be considered at-risk or a close contact"

Although this is clear and unambiguous, in specific reference to <15 minutes, it is not accurate and will mislead the general public!


Is it accurate?

No. This phrase is simply not correct when presented on its own, without context.


As stated in HSE guidelines, the phrase is not based on observations of COVID-19, it is “based on observations from similar serious coronaviruses – SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV." This does not make it to RTE.ie publication. May I also add a generalization from comparisons to two other similar coronaviruses is being made here, not a large number.


Is it misleading?

Many or most people may interpret that “Generally” is in reference to at least observation/s of COVID-19, and that they are safe for up to 15 minutes, thus leading to ill-advised and imprudent behaviour, not warned that COVID-19 appears more transmissible than SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, which the phrase is based on.

To add, one would think a phrase, if to be repackaged, would at least promote cautious, vigilant behaviour, in such a fast evolving public safety topic.


Alternatives?

I am not objecting to any advice provided by HSE, RTE.ie should provide the information that HSE provides to the general public, and other creative images and communications. RTE.ie is repackaging information from HSE interim technical guidelines, and presents it without very important context, while we deal with a more infectious virus this time around.

Not just yet.

cloudatlas wrote: »

The advice they seem to be giving is that if you had symptoms you would need to self isolate at home and stay as far away from your partner as possible. Use separate bathrooms. Don't share stuff etc.

There’s a separate bathroom in every house?

if there's no en-suite, they advise that the person with symptoms use the bathroom after everyone else is done, disinfect / wipe down surfaces afterwards, use separate towels, and keep them separate, dirty laundry in a binbag, and do separately...

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Louisiana has 4.66m people. 1388 cases, same as Ireland, with 216 new cases and 46 deaths . Louisiana is a real hot spot, I'm not sure we are doing too good.

My sister's in-laws have family living there. My nieces are devastated because last week their grand-uncle volunteered to help out at a nursing home so that his daughter who was on the medical staff there could go work in the local hospital and he became infected within two days. He has both diabetes and cancer and refused to take up a ventilator so he stands little to no chance of surviving but he's a stubborn old man and he's still hanging on. His daughter and son have both been infected at the hospital they were working at so they are both in isolation.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thanks. Im wondering because my partner is still going to work daily and basically wondering if I feel unwell but don't qualify for a test, is he still ok to go to work. Anyway, thank you for the info.

Fever above 38 °C + one of the following..
Cough ,any kind
Shortness of breath
Breathing difficulties

Info is readily available on HSE.ie Coronavirus pages and updated every day.

If you are unwell ring your GP, and if you are referred for a test you will need to self isolate and your household will have to restrict their movements , that means not going to work. Again all on the above site.
This has been changed from people only restricted if close contact or household of a CONFIRMED case, probably because there is such a backlog of people waiting to be tested.
7 to10 days at present as those new test sites are only up and running this week.

marilynrr wrote: »

They have conflicting advice on this page https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/self-isolation-and-limited-social-interaction.html

Really?
What conflicting advice?
The only thing I have found is one week it's people with contact with those travelling from Italy or China, then just from abroad , then contacts of confirmed cases only need be concerned and now its contacts or household of any case , confirmed or not . But not applying to healthcare workers!
Very difficult to keep up with this disease, but I think the HSE are doing their best.
As I said , updated regularly.
So if you find conflicting advice, just look at the date it was updated. The newer the advice , the more relevant it is.

I think I see what you are saying now ...that page does say that household contacts do not need to restrict movements unless told to do so , which was the advice up to this week .
Then it says under social isolation on the next page that they do. Confusing alright.

Can't believe that I'm reading people on here seriously entertaining the notion that the dose they got back in Winter was Covid 19.

It wasn't.

Arghus wrote: »

Can't believe that I'm reading people on here seriously entertaining the notion that the dose they got back in Winter was Covid 19.

It wasn't.

Can we test if someone has had it in the past?

Anyone know how long results are taking for swabs?

frillyleaf wrote: »

Can we test if someone has had it in the past?

It was tested, and the infections here before Christmas were not Covid-19, but some people are spectacularly dense and for some reason wish to entertain the delusion that they have already had their dose of the pandemic.