CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

randy hickey · 24-03-2020 05:15PM

On BBC News just now: the Uk have carried out 90,406 tests for Covid19 as of this morning. You don't need a degree in mathematics to see they are at nuthin, with that level of testing.

So why does their inadequate response to this pandemic affect us here?

Well, the signs are there, that they have let this get out of control already, and unfortunately, the famous curve isn't going to get as flattened as it should, which in turn means the health system is very likely to be overwhelmed á la Italy, and here's where we are going to have a serious problem: When the hospitals are buckling over the border, where do we think our brothers and sisters in the North are going to go? If you think the recent panic-buying was crazy, wait and see how a population reacts when their hospitals are no longer able to cope, and a short drive down the road, the hospitals in the republic still have some capacity.

I do not say this to scare-monger.

I raise it because I haven't seen anybody else talking about this, and I believe it is extremely important for a conversation to start here, so that our authorities can put a plan in place asap to cope with this heretofore unforeseen demand on our health services.

17larsson · 24-03-2020 05:15PM

So construction sites remain open

Mervyn Skidmore · 24-03-2020 05:15PM

Great news about the private hospitals.

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 05:16PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

1. No, only personnel qualified to work in clincial labs can process the tests.

2. Some helthcare professionals have their work suspended. Off the top of my head, staff that primarily worked in outpatient departments can be redeployed at testing centres to take the swabs.

You would think taking a swab is a simple task but it still has to be done correctly. 2 swabs are taken, 1 from the throat, 1 from the nose.
If you don't swab the correct area i.e right at the back of the throat and right up the nasal cavity then you won't get a good sample. The quality of the sample is so important.

This task cannot be just left to the public to do themselves as they may not take the swabs correctly. I say that because I see urine and feces specimens sent into the lab in every container you can imagine; 7up bottles, jam jars, pill bottles. Any specimen not taken correctly has to be rejected.

UK not fvcks given......How many machines do we have in the state?

Army moves in: Military seize testing machines from private laboratories for urgent coronavirus checks on NHS staff

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146055/Army-seizes-testing-machines-ministers-race-carry-coronavirus-checks-NHS-staff.html

josip · 24-03-2020 05:16PM

otnomart wrote: »

1800 30 year olds have contracted covid-19 pneumonia - in Bergamo, Italy

https://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/articoli/a-bergamo-1800-trentenni-con-polmonite-covid-19-42470ad9-8389-4152-ac26-00cfc9a6a449.html?

Once again.
I suspect he's referring to the province of the same name (pop. 1.1 million) rather than the town/city.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Bergamo

keano_afc · 24-03-2020 05:16PM

"Hello everyone. See what Boris said last night, we're doing that too. Bye".

Harry Palmr · 24-03-2020 05:16PM

Acosta wrote: »

Better than 100 people in a pub I suppose. The HSE are just picking numbers out of the sky. Outside people you live with you shouldn't be near anyone for social reasons.

It does feel like a "let's be nice" sop to the wrong sort of mentality. Ah sure they said 4 so 6 is grand could be what follows.

JanuarySnowstor · 24-03-2020 05:16PM

Nothing much being said today

Humberto Salazar · 24-03-2020 05:17PM

17larsson wrote: »

So construction sites remain open

Yes. Surprised about that. The unions are not happy.

JaimeLannister · 24-03-2020 05:17PM

What do they mean by "rent freeze" in this context? Is it just that rents can't be increased during the emergency?

Allinall · 24-03-2020 05:17PM

randy hickey wrote: »

On BBC News just now: the Uk have carried out 90,406 tests for Covid19 as of this morning. You don't need a degree in mathematics to see they are at nuthin, with that level of testing.

So why does their inadequate response to this pandemic affect us here?

Well, the signs are there, that they have let this get out of control already, and unfortunately, the famous curve isn't going to get as flattened as it should, which in turn means the health system is very likely to be overwhelmed á la Italy, and here's where we are going to have a serious problem: When the hospitals are buckling over the border, where do we think our brothers and sisters in the North are going to go? If you think the recent panic-buying was crazy, wait and see how a population reacts when their hospitals are no longer able to cope, and a short drive down the road, the hospitals in the republic still have some capacity.

I do not say this to scare-monger.

I raise it because I haven't seen anybody else talking about this, and I believe it is extremely important for a conversation to start here, so that our authorities can put a plan in place asap to cope with this heretofore unforeseen demand on our health services.

Do you really think the authorities are looking at boards for advice?

Tacitus Kilgore · 24-03-2020 05:17PM

17larsson wrote: »

So construction sites remain open

Not sure it's a great idea, economically it makes sense, but this isn't an economic emergency.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 24-03-2020 05:17PM

Macwilliams nailed this all earlier in his podcast

LillySV · 24-03-2020 05:18PM

Lillyfae wrote: »

Do you want them running the risk of infecting who knows how many people on the way "home"???? The whole world is tackling this virus at the moment. We are all affected, doesn't matter where we are. Any country's win is a win for the whole world at the moment. It was a stupid initiative anyway.

Self isolate them for two weeks, then they are free to help out of a serious rut that is very likely to last a year or more

is_that_so · 24-03-2020 05:18PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

UK not fvcks given......How many machines do we have in the state?

Army moves in: Military seize testing machines from private laboratories for urgent coronavirus checks on NHS staff

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146055/Army-seizes-testing-machines-ministers-race-carry-coronavirus-checks-NHS-staff.html

Someone posted a number of over 1000 now, with orders of 90 a week I think.

Wibbs · 24-03-2020 05:18PM

boetstark wrote: »

Folks new symptoms to watch out for. Loss of sense of taste and smell. Feeling fine, bit of headcold but smell and taste gone.
Gp has referred me for covid 19 test as the above is a red flag symptom.

It seems to be B, but don't worry too much. When I've gotten head colds about the first thing to go is sense of smell and taste. It could just be a head cold.

MarkY91 · 24-03-2020 05:18PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Great news about the private hospitals.

Must have missed that part. Can someone tell me? My girlfriend is a nurse in a private hospital.

B.A._Baracus · 24-03-2020 05:18PM

Switched the speech on about 4 minutes ago.
Seems all hot air. Just give me the nitty gritty. The bullet points and info. Not the fluff.

risteard7 · 24-03-2020 05:19PM

What difference does it make if Leo Says a Lockdown! Just stay at home and shut up! FFS

Harry Palmr · 24-03-2020 05:19PM

Goodness me the south Dublin millionaires in their 3k a night hospital suites will be appalled!

AdrianG08 · 24-03-2020 05:19PM

Theres alot of nonsense in this speech, Leo seizing his reeling in the years moment.

Some of the information relating to business supports/unemployment assistance is extremely vague.

Reckless Abandonment · 24-03-2020 05:19PM

Looks fairly sensible moves from the government. Still leaves a bit more room to tighten up if needed.

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 05:19PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

UK not fvcks given......How many machines do we have in the state?

Army moves in: Military seize testing machines from private laboratories for urgent coronavirus checks on NHS staff

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146055/Army-seizes-testing-machines-ministers-race-carry-coronavirus-checks-NHS-staff.html

How many of these machines do we have in the country. Pharma and bio exports are huge in Ireland. We must have **** load.

A Government review has identified hundreds of polymerase chain reaction (PCR) machines in use at universities and companies that are able to detect the virus' genetic material.

Mantis Toboggan · 24-03-2020 05:19PM

The two lads love waffling on and on.

Just get to the point and stop grandstanding.

is_that_so · 24-03-2020 05:19PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

Must have missed that part. Can someone tell me? My girlfriend is a nurse in a private hospital.

Effectively nationalised.

facehugger99 · 24-03-2020 05:19PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Not sure it's a great idea, economically it makes sense, but this isn't an economic emergency.

It absolutely is going to be.

LillySV · 24-03-2020 05:20PM

boetstark wrote: »

Folks new symptoms to watch out for. Loss of sense of taste and smell. Feeling fine, bit of headcold but smell and taste gone.
Gp has referred me for covid 19 test as the above is a red flag symptom.

God hope all works out for u

Mervyn Skidmore · 24-03-2020 05:20PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Switched the speech on about 4 minutes ago.
Seems all hot air. Just give me the nitty gritty. The bullet points and info. Not the fluff.

Switch it off so and read the release later.

Doctor Nick · 24-03-2020 05:20PM

Half measures IMO. I suppose I should be thankful my workplace can remain open but the fact I have to use public transport to get there is a concern. One of my colleagues who has been off since Paddy's day was back today freaked out. When I asked why they were back they said they'd been hounded to come back. Bad form from my Boss who I normally have a lot of respect for.

otnomart · 24-03-2020 05:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Societal structures similar in aspect to Italy are at play here as well unfortunately, ie, alot of young Spanish adults live at home with their parents. Spanish youth unemployment being very high wouldn’t help either. Younger people who maybe just have a very mild infection by and large are easily passing it on to older relatives as a consequence.

Accomodation sharing (with family or with flatmates) must certainly be a factor.

If you take a house share with 4 flatmates from 4 different Counties, they have close contacts not only with each other, but also with 4 different workplaces and then with 4 different sets of friends and 4 different families.

Dublin (together with London) must be the European capital with the highest number of accomodation sharing.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP