CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 01:37PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

By the way may i ask a question?

It might be stupid....but

Why is it numbers went down three days in a row in Ireland from 196 to 191 to 126 to 102 then went up again? Was it different testing?

Also why when the numbers in Italy went down for two days did people think this was a sign of a turn around so quickly but they didn't here?

They had changes in Italian testing recently too.

I am not a statistician but why the difference in reaction?

Is it just because we have accepted the surge is going to come etc?

I don't think the numbers here mean anything at the moment as we are still back logged with 40k tests and they get through a different number of tests each days as new centres open. The only way to see if the numbers are rising or falling is to test a specific number of people ever day (eg 2500) and for 3 or 4 weeks, only then can you see if the numbers are rising/falling. There are going to be dips and rises for a few weeks I'd imagine.

Doctors room ghost · 24-03-2020 01:38PM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

My next-door neighbor works in a care home and her son comes to visit her every day at the house. He works security for the LUAS. The fact she's not taking the provided social distancing guidelines seriously is very worrying. The fact she works in a care home and her son works as security on public transport who then visits her daily has the potential to be catastrophic. He should be distancing himself because of the nature of his work and she should have more cop on!!!

It's the same with another house on my road. An elderly lady constantly has visits from the same people who don't live there. Kids coming and going in and out of the houses playing on the road.

Same with three houses across me, they are all related to one another and continue to go in between each other's houses. The elderly woman who lives in one of them has had cancer and has been in-and-out hospital. One house with the father out working, has a newborn, a 3 y/o and a 8 y/o were all out together on the green playing with other kids on the road and their parents.

That's has just been on my road alone so God only whos what its like on the next road over or my area, the county or Country. I know its been discussed many times in the past pages but those who were/are out in busy public spaces etc are simpletons. It's impossible to be mad at people who lack basic comprehension skills. They are that dense light would go around them. Just utter ticks!!

You’re neighbors are blessed to have you, an all Ireland champion curtain twitcher living among them.
I’d say a crow wouldn’t land on the street and his personal details, including special dietary requirements if any and next of kin details are entered in the diary.

CrabRevolution · 24-03-2020 01:38PM

expectationlost wrote: »

80 irish medics trying to return from australia ... erm arn't they needed in their jobs in australia?

One of them was on the radio yesterday and said her group were finishing their contract in Australia this month anyway, and had intended on travelling for a few months before beginning a training course in Ireland in the summer. The Virus just means they're coming home early (in their case anyway).

OneEightSeven · 24-03-2020 01:38PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

If these doctors are such heroes and care about ireland so much why did they let the tax payer fund their education and then f*ck off to sunnier climes? I think they just want to be lauded in the media tbh.

Their wages are being undercut by cheap immigrant doctors and nurses from Asia and Africa the government is importing. They didn't fúck off to Australia for the sunshine, they fúcked off because the money is better.

24-03-2020 01:39PM

Steve F wrote: »

I'm surprised at the amount of "IT Experts" that haven't heard of Teamviewer or Splashtop
both these can be set up in less than ten minutes and then you can log into your works computer from anywhere using any computer.
You are literally "plugged in" and can access everything as if you are sat at your desk at work
Can't understand these people saying they are "waiting for IT to set them up

I work for the IT of a company that's trying to get a lot of people who don't regularly work from home working from home.

There is far more to it than just installing something like TeamViewer.

Believe me.

Cork Boy 53 · 24-03-2020 01:40PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

“All drama queens please begin to form a que.this is not a drill people.
those with the strangest conspiracy theories will be placed in a social distance draw,with the possibility of winning a double lined tin foil hat with the word PANDEMIC scribed on it in red crayon.”

Absolutely hilarious.....................................................Not.:rolleyes:

Bannasidhe · 24-03-2020 01:40PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

FFS:mad:

One of Ireland's biggest geriatric rehabilitation hospitals is now battling to deal with eight confirmed and suspected cases of Covid-19.

The hospital complex - in the south - now threatens health chiefs with what a doctor described as “one of the nightmare scenarios we had hoped to avoid”.

Public health officials have effectively placed the complex in lockdown.

Cousin of mine works there. Team she is on is now in isolation.

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 01:41PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Or maybe they feel the burden of duty to their home country. The country where their families live, friends live and which is their home. It is quite an emotive thing.

I imagine these people have strong value systems.

Yeah but it's the same country that wasn't able to provide a living for them. I wouldn't be happy if I was an Australian. There is clearly a need for their skills now while the health system is overburdened. They could find themselves surplus to requirements when this things past. Awkward conversation trying to get a visa back in Australia.

kowloon · 24-03-2020 01:43PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I work for the IT of a company that's trying to get a lot of people who don't regularly work from home working from home.

There is far more to it than just installing something like TeamViewer.

Believe me.

I would imagine security concerns are going to be pretty heightened given how many new machines are now working from home.

tom1ie · 24-03-2020 01:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Tesco are asking all fit and able bodied people to stop overloading their home deliver system so those who actually need delivery won't have to wait a week for it.
People looking for home deliveries when they can easily go and get it themselves are just being selfish.

Will you ever wind your neck in ffs!
You just can’t win with people.
If you bought extra supplies back in December 2019 when this kicked off in Wuhan, you were labelled an alarmist nutcase.
In january you start saying how this could possibly impact Ireland your told to stop scaremongering.
You decide to self isolate and avoid crowds by not going shopping and using an online service, well then your being selfish!
What is wrong with some people that they just can’t help but comment on something they’ve no reason to comment on.

jam83 · 24-03-2020 01:44PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Cousin of mine works there. Team she is on is now in isolation.

What county is this?

nelly17 · 24-03-2020 01:44PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I don't think the numbers here mean anything at the moment as we are still back logged with 40k tests and they get through a different number of tests each days as new centres open. The only way to see if the numbers are rising or falling is to test a specific number of people ever day (eg 2500) and for 3 or 4 weeks, only then can you see if the numbers are rising/falling. There are going to be dips and rises for a few weeks I'd imagine.

Its worth noting too that theres new testing labs coming on stream to the volume of tests being done is not a constant

CrabRevolution · 24-03-2020 01:45PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah but it's the same country that wasn't able to provide a living for them. I wouldn't be happy if I was an Australian. There is clearly a need for their skills now while the health system is overburdened. They could find themselves surplus to requirements when this things past. Awkward conversation trying to get a visa back in Australia.

It's untrue to say that Ireland "couldn't provide a living for them". There's no doctors going hungry in Ireland. It's just that the pay and conditions in Australia are more attractive than in Ireland, before you even start talking about weather, desire to travel etc.

owlbethere · 24-03-2020 01:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Tesco are asking all fit and able bodied people to stop overloading their home deliver system so those who actually need delivery won't have to wait a week for it.
People looking for home deliveries when they can easily go and get it themselves are just being selfish.

What a load of small minded nonsense from Tesco.

Someone could be fit and able bodied with an underlying condition that doesn't show like diabetes or whatever. Or maybe a household doesn't have a vehicle and needs to do a grocery shop without going on public transport get some bags of groceries. Or maybe healthcare workers are fit and able bodied but need to provide food for their families.

Bannasidhe · 24-03-2020 01:45PM

jam83 wrote: »

What county is this?

Cork City.

Stheno · 24-03-2020 01:45PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Cousin of mine works there. Team she is on is now in isolation.

Best wishes to her and everyone affected must be very stressful

Rob A. Bank · 24-03-2020 01:48PM

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Their wages are being undercut by cheap immigrant doctors and nurses from Asia and Africa the government is importing. They didn't fúck off to Australia for the sunshine, they fúcked off because the money is better.

It is very difficult to get a senior medical post in Ireland without having had experience in one of the bigger international medical centers abroad, which is a good thing for the doctors education and for the patients the doctor will treat later.

It's called the BA degree (Been Abroad)

10000maniacs · 24-03-2020 01:49PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

TeamViewer is not good enough for remote working. It's too laggy. Grand for troubleshooting, that's all.

Also most Corporate networks are locked down for security reasons. They are not fouls to open them up with software like that

We use Citrix. No lag whatsoever. With Virgin broadband it's no different than working in the office. I have one of those 32 inch Lenovo all in one PCs at home so its actually better than the office.

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 01:49PM

The markets are rocketing but -
While traders cheered the hopium from Donald Trump, doctors and analysts disagree. Returning to normality is impossible until the pandemic is over, said Former FDA Commissioner Dr. Scot Gottlieb.

Lillyfae · 24-03-2020 01:50PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I work for the IT of a company that's trying to get a lot of people who don't regularly work from home working from home.

There is far more to it than just installing something like TeamViewer.

Believe me.

I empathise massively. There is a culture of it in some departments in my company, mine included luckily, but the utter sh*te I'm getting from people who aren't used to it is ridiculous at the moment. I've a toddler at home but myself and my boyfriend share responsibility depending on our days, this is clearly communicated to my team in advance so everyone knows what's feasible or not.

Having said that, I don't blame the individuals. Our infrastructure in work is well equipped and set up for this, it's just one of the section managers doesn't allow it in the same way as others do so people working in those departments don't receive the same level of trust or flexibility as others do. My manager would never have hired me if she didn't trust that I don't need supervision. It's now apparent that working from home is a skill that they should have been encouraged to develop and that's the section head's fault.

kowloon · 24-03-2020 01:50PM

owlbethere wrote: »

What a load of small minded nonsense from Tesco.

Someone could be fit and able bodied with an underlying condition that doesn't show like diabetes or whatever. Or maybe a household doesn't have a vehicle and needs to do a grocery shop without going on public transport get some bags of groceries. Or maybe healthcare workers are fit and able bodied but need to provide food for their families.

I'm sure TimeLadsPlease was only referring to people who are fit, able-bodied and with no health issues, ie. people who don't need home delivery.

24-03-2020 01:50PM

Antares35 wrote: »

Does anyone know why Spain is just getting worse and worse? Didn't they more or less lock down ten days ago? My parents decided to take their chances staying put and now are basically sitting ducks while it worsens around them. If anything happens, they will be alone Also read about Ryanair suspending flights for April and May so they are really stuck now, and will likely miss their first grandchild's birth too. I just don't understand how it got so bad over there when the authorities seem to be implementing the measures quite strictly

Societal structures similar in aspect to Italy are at play here as well unfortunately, ie, alot of young Spanish adults live at home with their parents. Spanish youth unemployment being very high wouldn’t help either. Younger people who maybe just have a very mild infection by and large are easily passing it on to older relatives as a consequence.

wakka12 · 24-03-2020 01:51PM

Surprised that Burkina Faso has 4 deaths, it has one of the youngest average age in the world. The median age within the country is not even an adult, 17 years old

1800_Ladladlad · 24-03-2020 01:53PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

You’re neighbors are blessed to have you, an all Ireland champion curtain twitcher living among them.
I’d say a crow wouldn’t land on the street and his personal details, including special dietary requirements if any and next of kin details are entered in the diary.

It wouldn't surprise me if you were one of the simpletons in that queue for the chipper in Howth.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 01:53PM

Seamai wrote: »

650,000 is only 1% of the population of Italy.

Oh yeah sorry, that only reinforces my point that Italy are no where even remotely near reaching herd immunity.

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 01:53PM

wakka12 wrote: »

How would it make much difference? Regardless of the death rate, it is crippling the healthcare infrastructure of some of the most developed nations in the world, it would imply that the mortality rate is not all that low. If it was 100 or 200 times lower than originally thought, then the more dangerous seasonal flu would cause more damage to the european healthcare infrastructure every year

Of course it would make a difference if a 100 times more people had it, it would mean the amount of people needing hospitalization would be dwarfed. How could this not be a good thing.

NetChat101 · 24-03-2020 01:54PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

You’re neighbors are blessed to have you, an all Ireland champion curtain twitcher living among them.
I’d say a crow wouldn’t land on the street and his personal details, including special dietary requirements if any and next of kin details are entered in the diary.

Ah come on!! The poster was only highlighting what everyone knows - certain elements of society couldn't give a damn about social distancing - if I lived on her road I'd be fuming at the morons living around me. Most responsible people at the minute feel a heightened awareness of what people around them are doing as it could impact on themselves and their families. That's not "curtain twitching" as you call it.

marilynrr · 24-03-2020 01:54PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Tesco are asking all fit and able bodied people to stop overloading their home deliver system so those who actually need delivery won't have to wait a week for it.
People looking for home deliveries when they can easily go and get it themselves are just being selfish.

How would Tesco even know any person or families individual circumstances?

Pops_20 · 24-03-2020 01:54PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I work for the IT of a company that's trying to get a lot of people who don't regularly work from home working from home.

There is far more to it than just installing something like TeamViewer.

Believe me.

Have you tried turning it on and off again?

paddythere · 24-03-2020 01:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Societal structures similar in aspect to Italy are at play here as well unfortunately, ie, alot of young Spanish adults live at home with their parents. Spanish youth unemployment being very high wouldn’t help either. Younger people who maybe just have a very mild infection by and large are easily passing it on to older relatives as a consequence.

Wont it be similar in Ireland then? A lot of 20 and 30 somethings (sometimes with their own kids) still living at home with their parents

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