CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Rob A. Bank · 24-03-2020 01:19PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

China knew about it in December. Didn't they lock up the doctor who tried to warn them. They knew even before that

He was not locked up... I have looked into the timeline of events as reported in the media.

30 December 2019,.. Dr Li Wenliang saw a patient's report which showed a positive test result with a high confidence level for SARS coronavirus.

At 17:43, he wrote in a private WeChat group of his medical school classmates: "7 confirmed cases of SARS were reported [to hospital] from Huanan Seafood Market."

He also posted the patient's examination report and CT scan image. At 18:42, he added "the latest news is, it has been confirmed that they are coronavirus infections, but the exact virus strain is being subtyped".[2] Li asked the WeChat group members to inform their families and friends to take protective measures.

One of Li's friends posted his message widely on WeChat (Chinese Facebook)

December 31, 2019…Chinese Health officials inform the WHO about a cluster of 41 patients with a mysterious pneumonia. Most are connected to Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market.

January 3, 2020… Police from the Wuhan Public Security Bureau investigated the case and interrogated Li, giving him a warning notice and censuring him for "making false comments on the Internet". Li goes back to work at the hospital.

January 7… Li contracted the coronavirus when he saw an infected patient at his hospital with glaucoma. He was an Ophthalmologist, and examination of the eyes means closeness to the face of the patient. The patient developed a temperature the next day and coronavirus infection was later confirmed.

January 10th Li developed a fever and cough which soon became severe.

January 11, 2020… Chinese authorities shared the full sequence of the coronavirus genome with the world.

On 12 January, Li was admitted to intensive care

February 5… Dr Li dies in ICU having been put on ECMO (Heart lung machine)

Sooo... there was a delay of one day in informing the World Health Organization about the outbreak. The disease was initially treated like a normal spread of disease from animal to human, like a vet getting brucellosis from an animal.

They did not realize that human to human spread was possible and that the virus was so infectious in December, until after a lot of medical staff had been infected, some of whom paid with their lives.

I imagine that if a doctor in the west posted a patient's examination report and CT scan on Facebook, there would be consequences here too.

So much for Trump's lies about delay and cover up.

billybonkers · 24-03-2020 01:19PM

UK style lockdown tonight then is it? I haven't kept up with updates today. Dept Education ringing schools to inform them at present

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-schools-closure-to-be-extended-as-new-restrictions-to-be-announced-1.4210785

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 01:20PM

Tea Shock wrote: »

Hantavirus is decades old.

It has a mortality rate of 38%

If that got out, we'd be begging Coronavirus to come back! But it's much harder to get!

It cant be passed person to person so its unlikely to travel far.

TTLF · 24-03-2020 01:20PM

Dozyart wrote: »

You need to speak to the Covid-19 manager then,because nobody else has a clue how long this piece of string is!!

i dont think you understand what I mean?

It's obvious we're not going back for awhile, I think it's obvious. I'm just hoping they give another 2 week time frame and then review the current state of things again like they did literally 2 weeks ago? :pac:

BorneTobyWilde · 24-03-2020 01:21PM

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Ace2007 · 24-03-2020 01:22PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Or maybe they feel the burden of duty to their home country. The country where their families live, friends live and which is their home. It is quite an emotive thing.

I imagine these people have strong value systems.

Is it? Maybe they see Ireland as being in control of the situation, compared to where they are and want to come home. maybe they want to be home in case their love ones get sick.

Why wait till now to try and come home when Emerites and the likes are stopping flights? These are doctors you say - they should be able to afford flight and come home earlier - not as if they are stranded in Peru and can't afford it..

shesty · 24-03-2020 01:22PM

I think they were bringing proposals to Cabinet this morning for discussion, and will announce later. I would imagine certainly til the end of the Easter holidays anyway, possibly until the end of April, for the schools. That would be about 6 weeks of a closure, you would seriously hope that the numbers would have levelled off/dropped by then (they should have, going by rough timelines elsewhere). Whether they decide to review or extend for another couple of weeks after that is anyone's guess though.

Not going to get hung up on it until I recheck the news later on this evening to be honest.

whisky_galore · 24-03-2020 01:22PM

Dingle fishermen blockading pier preventing foreign crews mingling in the town, and here's the kicker, not letting them land fish either.

cloudatlas · 24-03-2020 01:23PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Or maybe they feel the burden of duty to their home country. The country where their families live, friends live and which is their home. It is quite an emotive thing.

I imagine these people have strong value systems.

A doctor at one of the hospitals in perth wrote to the Irish Times and said 60% of the medical team on staff during shift were Irish. As other people have said before if it was the reverse and U.K. docs were leaving the Irish system there would be no end to the abuse thrown at them. It's not an emotive issue it's an ethical issue.

spookwoman · 24-03-2020 01:23PM

He said “tens of thousands” are looking to be tested every day and he cannot say if any that have not been processed have expired.

When asked if any completed swabs have expired while waiting to be processed, Dr Holohan said: “I can’t honestly say that hasn’t happened."

He said a more detailed briefing today will have more information regarding testing.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/coronavirus-ireland-massive-waiting-list-17968780?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

is_that_so · 24-03-2020 01:23PM

TTLF wrote: »

i dont think you understand what I mean?

It's obvious we're not going back for awhile, I think it's obvious. I'm just hoping they give another 2 week time frame and then review the current state of things again like they did literally 2 weeks ago? :pac:

Easter holidays pop up in the middle so very logical not to do anything until after those.

tobefrank321 · 24-03-2020 01:23PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/coronavirus-new-cases-imported-travel-history-uk-us-malaysia-12570840
32 imported infections in Singapore today, a majority of those new infections occurred in people that had just returned from the UK.

We don't even know how many imported infections from the UK we have. The London-Dublin route is one of the busiest air routes in the world.

I suspect most new cases from now on will be directly or indirectly linked to that route.

TTLF · 24-03-2020 01:24PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Easter holidays pop up in the middle so very logical not to do anything until after those.

Yeah that's what I was saying, "e.g. Schools closed until April 27th"

24-03-2020 01:26PM

Tesco are asking all fit and able bodied people to stop overloading their home deliver system so those who actually need delivery won't have to wait a week for it.
People looking for home deliveries when they can easily go and get it themselves are just being selfish.

Cork Boy 53 · 24-03-2020 01:26PM

billybonkers wrote: »

UK style lockdown tonight then is it? I haven't kept up with updates today. Dept Education ringing schools to inform them at present

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-schools-closure-to-be-extended-as-new-restrictions-to-be-announced-1.4210785

Govt. announcement is expected at 4pm or so. We will have to wait and see.

pawdee · 24-03-2020 01:27PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

I've been surviving on Metal for 20 years!

\\m// (..) \\m//

It's a Pandemic......(but) it's a metal disease so you'll be grand. I'm finding it hard to Accept that I can't go to the pub but I don't want to be one of those people Spreading The Disease.

is_that_so · 24-03-2020 01:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Tesco are asking all fit and able bodied people to stop overloading their home deliver system so those who actually need delivery won't have to wait a week for it.
People looking for home deliveries when they can easily go and get it themselves are just being selfish.

Well, Leo actively encouraged that in the speech and some could also be in self-isolation.

Doctors room ghost · 24-03-2020 01:28PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Government announcement expected at around 4 pm today.

“All drama queens please begin to form a que.this is not a drill people.
those with the strangest conspiracy theories will be placed in a social distance draw,with the possibility of winning a double lined tin foil hat with the word PANDEMIC scribed on it in red crayon.”

spookwoman · 24-03-2020 01:29PM

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1242421260220542976?s=20

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 01:30PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Was just walking to the shop with my brother and sister and some old lady barks at us from behind to keep our distance from one another. We said we are siblings and live together and she says 'you are no exception, you are killing people', and storms off.

Hysteria going to some people's heads

Logic not people's strong point. If you share household there is practically zero percent chance it won't spread within the household.

tabby aspreme · 24-03-2020 01:30PM

I would think the reason Spain is in such a bad way at the moment is, that up until two weeks ago it had thousands if not hundreds of thousands of tourists arriving weekly from all over the world, who had spent a few hours cramped on planes breathing each others air.

Antares35 · 24-03-2020 01:31PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

My folks decided to ride it out too, my dad is 70 next month but they're both in good health. It's quiet where they are with spacious supermarkets, and way better hospitals than here. So I'm actually glad they stayed there rather than come back to Dubbers. Wish I could join them tbh.

I was like that too but I think I am just panicking now because of the news reports and seeing the thing about Ryanair this morning. It's more just if anything happens they will be alone, even though I know objectively that if it was here, we wouldn't be allowed see them anyway. I hope your folks are doing ok.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 01:31PM

mick987 wrote: »

I would't wish this on anyone, then goes on to name 2 people he hopes catch it and gets critically ill. Nice One

You clearly can't read as what I said was "I wouldn't wish this on anyone else on the planet except for maybe..." so trot on with fake moral outrage nonsense.

Thelonious Monk · 24-03-2020 01:32PM

If these doctors are such heroes and care about ireland so much why did they let the tax payer fund their education and then f*ck off to sunnier climes? I think they just want to be lauded in the media tbh.

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 01:32PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

We don't even know how many imported infections from the UK we have. The London-Dublin route is one of the busiest air routes in the world.

I suspect most new cases from now on will be directly or indirectly linked to that route.

Good point. That needs to be stopped. Use Skype or don't travel. It's like all the measures. Won't be implemented until 500 people have been infected via that route.

1800_Ladladlad · 24-03-2020 01:33PM

My next-door neighbor works in a care home and her son comes to visit her every day at the house. He works security for the LUAS. The fact she's not taking the provided social distancing guidelines seriously is very worrying. The fact she works in a care home and her son works as security on public transport who then visits her daily has the potential to be catastrophic. He should be distancing himself because of the nature of his work and she should have more cop on!!!

It's the same with another house on my road. An elderly lady constantly has visits from the same people who don't live there. Kids coming and going in and out of the houses playing on the road.

Same with three houses across me, they are all related to one another and continue to go in between each other's houses. The elderly woman who lives in one of them has had cancer and has been in-and-out hospital. One house with the father out working, has a newborn, a 3 y/o and a 8 y/o were all out together on the green playing with other kids on the road and their parents.

That's has just been on my road alone so God only whos what its like on the next road over or my area, the county or Country. I know its been discussed many times in the past pages but those who were/are out in busy public spaces etc are simpletons. It's impossible to be mad at people who lack basic comprehension skills. They are that dense light would go around them. Just utter ticks!!

Widdensushi · 24-03-2020 01:34PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Dingle fishermen blockading pier preventing foreign crews mingling in the town, and here's the kicker, not letting them land fish either.

I would imagine the crew after 2 weeks or a month at sea were safer kept apart, more likely they would get infected by the locals than the other way around unfortunately.

billybonkers · 24-03-2020 01:34PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

If these doctors are such heroes and care about ireland so much why did they let the tax payer fund their education and then f*ck off to sunnier climes? I think they just want to be lauded in the media tbh.

Wow

Tell me how · 24-03-2020 01:35PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

If these doctors are such heroes and care about ireland so much why did they let the tax payer fund their education and then f*ck off to sunnier climes? I think they just want to be lauded in the media tbh.

Come on Thelonious, there is way more to it than that.

The opportunity to travel before settling down to start a family is something a large percentage of new graduates look to do.
The pay and conditions of new Dr's in Ireland has long been highlighted as less attractive than in other locations.
Everyone one of us who graduates in Ireland has benefited in some way from a tax payer funded education. Why should medical professionals return this favor but scientists or engineers get some form of a pass?

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 01:36PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Dingle fishermen blockading pier preventing foreign crews mingling in the town, and here's the kicker, not letting them land fish either.

While admirable on face value I can't help but think it might have the unintended consequence of keeping prices higher for the native catch.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/minister-not-proposing-fishing-fleet-tie-up-despite-covid-19-impact-1.4208243

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