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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #5042
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Does anyone know why Spain is just getting worse and worse? Didn't they more or less lock down ten days ago? My parents decided to take their chances staying put and now are basically sitting ducks while it worsens around them. If anything happens, they will be alone :( Also read about Ryanair suspending flights for April and May so they are really stuck now, and will likely miss their first grandchild's birth too. I just don't understand how it got so bad over there when the authorities seem to be implementing the measures quite strictly :(
    no more rescue flights?


  • #5043
    Steve F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Steve F


    MOR316 wrote: »
    I'm still in work and I work in none of those places.

    ICT are incredibly slow in allowing me access to servers to work from home so I'm stuck here until they get their finger out.

    Everyone else is on a rotation thing. 2 people come in one day, 2 others come in the next.

    It's quite idiotic

    I'm surprised at the amount of "IT Experts" that haven't heard of Teamviewer or Splashtop
    both these can be set up in less than ten minutes and then you can log into your works computer from anywhere using any computer.
    You are literally "plugged in" and can access everything as if you are sat at your desk at work
    Can't understand these people saying they are "waiting for IT to set them up:confused:


  • #5044
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,349 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    Director of John Hopkins centre for disease control, in America:

    https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1242232846900756482

    Yeah look at this f*cking moron

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/older-people-would-rather-die-than-let-covid-19-lockdown-harm-us-economy-texas-official-dan-patrick

    He's 69 and would rather old people die than maybe some economic hardship. How unfathomable. Of course he's wearing a crucifix. It seems a large section of American society call themselves Christian but think any form of socialism or free healthcare is the devil's work, oppose gun control, and will do whatever they can to protect the rich and keep the poor poor. They are absolute scumbags.


  • #5045
    Cork_Langer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭Cork_Langer1


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Does anyone know why Spain is just getting worse and worse? Didn't they more or less lock down ten days ago? My parents decided to take their chances staying put and now are basically sitting ducks while it worsens around them. If anything happens, they will be alone :( Also read about Ryanair suspending flights for April and May so they are really stuck now, and will likely miss their first grandchild's birth too. I just don't understand how it got so bad over there when the authorities seem to be implementing the measures quite strictly :(

    O Leary has said their planes are been made available for all EU countries , repatriation, medical supplies, food deliveries anything that's needed.

    Spain is getting rough, apparently nursing homes are been abandoned with patient left there, which the Spanish army are checking all nursing homes now.

    From reading here, people are starting to panic, there's no need to panic the HSE and experts in Ireland have been level headed and measured.

    What will be, will be.

    Relax.


  • #5046
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Have they not tried to get home? I thought anyone from Spain was told to make arrangements last week?

    We live in Europe, it’s completely different to how China for example handles these situations.

    Don't talk to me about it :rolleyes: I tried to get them to come home but they said they felt safer there. They are in a quiet enough place and have their own small house so they can "bunker down". My Dad is at risk (has diabetes and had 2 surgeries last year) and is 73. They didn't want to take the risk on a flight which would have been packed and run the risk of picking it up. I tried to tell them it was a measured risk and that even if they got it, at least they would be treated here as our system is not saturated or full to the brim yet but they wouldn't listen.


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  • #5047
    Flippyfloppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    Why did they go to Spain when it was obvious there was a brewing global crisis since January?

    Maybe they live there....


  • #5048
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Does anyone know why Spain is just getting worse and worse? Didn't they more or less lock down ten days ago? My parents decided to take their chances staying put and now are basically sitting ducks while it worsens around them. If anything happens, they will be alone :( Also read about Ryanair suspending flights for April and May so they are really stuck now, and will likely miss their first grandchild's birth too. I just don't understand how it got so bad over there when the authorities seem to be implementing the measures quite strictly :(

    Theres a lag between implanting any measured and them being effective.

    If the Spanish people are obeying their lockdown the number of cases will hopefully start to fall in another week to 10 days.


  • #5049
    Jim Gazebo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    The Minister for Education has confirmed that schools and colleges will not reopen in the short term. No surprise about that announcement.

    Not much use though - people that are in final years in college need a timeframe of when they expect to be closing until imo.


  • #5050
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Steve F wrote: »
    I'm surprised at the amount of "IT Experts" that haven't heard of Teamviewer or Splashtop
    both these can be set up in less than ten minutes and then you can log into your works computer from anywhere using any computer.
    You are literally "plugged in" and can access everything as if you are sat at your desk at work
    Can't understand these people saying they are "waiting for IT to set them up:confused:

    A lot of companies don't have employees admin access to their work computers to download software...


  • #5051
    Xertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Have they not tried to get home? I thought anyone from Spain was told to make arrangements last week?

    We live in Europe, it’s completely different to how China for example handles these situations.

    I know a few people who opted to stay in Spain, basically on the assumption that it would be better handled anywhere except by the HSE, due to the coverage of the Irish health service over the last few years and during the election. I'm not saying it's not deserved, but so far the HSE seems to be doing relatively ok, so far anyway.


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  • #5052
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,084 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Yeah look at this f*cking moron

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/older-people-would-rather-die-than-let-covid-19-lockdown-harm-us-economy-texas-official-dan-patrick

    He's 69 and would rather old people die than maybe some economic hardship. How unfathomable. Of course he's wearing a crucifix. It seems a large section of American society call themselves Christian but think any form of socialism or free healthcare is the devil's work, oppose gun control, and will do whatever they can to protect the rich and keep the poor poor. They are absolute scumbags.

    Texas. I'm suprise he didnt suggest more people use their guns to fight the virus.


  • #5053
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Jim Gazebo wrote: »
    Not much use though - people that are in final years in college need a timeframe of when they expect to be closing until imo.

    So you want the Minster to look into his Crystal Ball?

    While he's at it - he might have a look to see when the rest of us will get back to normal life.... :rolleyes:

    Do wonder about some people at times. .


  • #5054
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Does anyone know why Spain is just getting worse and worse? Didn't they more or less lock down ten days ago? My parents decided to take their chances staying put and now are basically sitting ducks while it worsens around them. If anything happens, they will be alone :( Also read about Ryanair suspending flights for April and May so they are really stuck now, and will likely miss their first grandchild's birth too. I just don't understand how it got so bad over there when the authorities seem to be implementing the measures quite strictly :(

    Because the measures only stop the spread between homes and institutions but not within homes and institutions.

    It has to get worse before it gets better.


  • #5055
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Don't talk to me about it :rolleyes: I tried to get them to come home but they said they felt safer there. They are in a quiet enough place and have their own small house so they can "bunker down". My Dad is at risk (has diabetes and had 2 surgeries last year) and is 73. They didn't want to take the risk on a flight which would have been packed and run the risk of picking it up. I tried to tell them it was a measured risk and that even if they got it, at least they would be treated here as our system is not saturated or full to the brim yet but they wouldn't listen.
    well as long as they get food...


  • #5056
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    Why did they go to Spain when it was obvious there was a brewing global crisis since January?

    Because they can't stay away from it :rolleyes: They spend half their lives there. I think it was late Feb when they travelled over. I'm so worried about them and also sad they won't be here when their granddaughter is born. I know it isn't the biggest issue right now, but just wish they had come home when it all kicked off.

    Just don't get how it is so bad over there and no sign of rates decreasing:eek:


  • #5057
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,753 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Steve F wrote: »
    I'm surprised at the amount of "IT Experts" that haven't heard of Teamviewer or Splashtop
    both these can be set up in less than ten minutes and then you can log into your works computer from anywhere using any computer.
    You are literally "plugged in" and can access everything as if you are sat at your desk at work
    Can't understand these people saying they are "waiting for IT to set them up:confused:

    TeamViewer is shoite. And only for very basic requirements.

    Also most servers aren't open to the wide world for inbound connections like that.. there would likely be a gateway which might be accessible through VPN.


  • #5058
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,602 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Flippyfloppy wrote: »
    Maybe they live there....
    If that is the case, what are they thinking contemplating coming to Ireland?


  • #5059
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,349 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Have they not tried to get home? I thought anyone from Spain was told to make arrangements last week?

    We live in Europe, it’s completely different to how China for example handles these situations.

    My folks decided to ride it out too, my dad is 70 next month but they're both in good health. It's quiet where they are with spacious supermarkets, and way better hospitals than here. So I'm actually glad they stayed there rather than come back to Dubbers. Wish I could join them tbh.


  • #5060
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Flippyfloppy wrote: »
    Maybe they live there....

    Then stay there!!


  • #5061
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Jim Gazebo wrote: »
    Not much use though - people that are in final years in college need a timeframe of when they expect to be closing until imo.

    There's more important things than a feckin bit of paper with your qualifications written on it.

    Look, I'm guessing you are one of those soon to be college finishers so you should be fairly intelligent.

    We don't know how bad this virus is going to hit us yet so we don't know when the colleges will open up again. My guess is September. But it's only a guess. Do you think many in Northern Italy give a sh1te about college at the moment?

    Relax, do the social distancing thing and hopefully things will come back to semi-normality in the next three or four months.


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  • #5062
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Steve F wrote: »
    I'm surprised at the amount of "IT Experts" that haven't heard of Teamviewer or Splashtop
    both these can be set up in less than ten minutes and then you can log into your works computer from anywhere using any computer.
    You are literally "plugged in" and can access everything as if you are sat at your desk at work
    Can understand these people saying they are "waiting for IT to set them up:confused:

    I know what you mean, sure the IT workers need to be doing something and how dare anyone suggest an easier way.

    I had a similar problem now after being laid off, one of the marketing team decided to use some of my hard work to suggest that one of the gardens I help designed is in full flower etc, by posting a picture of it and saying look everyone full bloom and flowers everywhere here this week,
    Unfortunately we're closed but everything is fine here in the office and the gardens are magnificent this week.

    But roses and sweet peas don't come into full flush until June or July

    The emperors new clothes always comes to mind and when im back to work ill be a having a chat with the marketing team for undermining my work, and people's intelligence.

    Sweet peas and roses flowering in March sweet Jesus


  • #5063
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Steve F wrote: »
    I'm surprised at the amount of "IT Experts" that haven't heard of Teamviewer or Splashtop
    both these can be set up in less than ten minutes and then you can log into your works computer from anywhere using any computer.
    You are literally "plugged in" and can access everything as if you are sat at your desk at work
    Can't understand these people saying they are "waiting for IT to set them up:confused:
    Infrastructural integrity, data security.


  • #5064
    jamesf85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭jamesf85


    mikeoc85 wrote: »
    If this is more contagious than the flu then Italy likely has a few million people infected.

    I'm inclined to agree.

    Lets deal with the facts.

    And the best source of those facts in the cruise ship.

    Patient zero was on board for approx 5 days and was displaying symptoms (coughing) without knowing what it was.

    The cruise ship had over 3,700 on board.

    19% of the passangers contracted the virus, despite sharing the same pools, sauna, restaurants, onboard entertainment centres, lifts along with buses to and from attractions, as patient zero.

    On top of this, the cruise has an air conditioning system which circulates air throughout the ship.

    At the rate of infection this virus carries it's fair to say at least 80% of the ship would have been exposed to the virus either through the air or on surfaces (lift buttons, ladles and cutlery in the buffets, hand railings etc.) It is said that the virus lasted on such surfaces on the ship for 17 days.

    There were 8 deaths (0.21%) despite the fact that the average age was 62 and everyone was in a very confined space.

    This is a fair and reasonable example of how the virus spreads within a community.

    It's likely that a few million Italians have the virus and don't even know it, just like on the cruise ship.

    It doesn't change anything...we still need to contain it as we can't let our health care system get over stretched or else there'll be many needless deaths. But it does point to the reality the death rate isn't at 2-3 or even 4%.


  • #5065
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    bekker wrote: »
    Infrastructural integrity, data security.

    Exactly! If you work for a big multi national you cannot just start using unapproved software


  • #5066
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,697 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    I'm surprised there wasn't an uproar yesterday when Trump blatantly said he's putting the economy ahead of American lives. Dr Fauci no where to be seen, so it was all Trump. And the reporters in the room just moved on to next question, so surreal. Trump is right, he could pull a gun and kill someone live on TV and he'd still get re-elected. .


  • #5067
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    That must smart for the greedy IOC.

    Their circus was already in trouble, could be a hammer blow to it.

    Hammer blow ;)


  • #5068
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Does anyone know why Spain is just getting worse and worse? Didn't they more or less lock down ten days ago? My parents decided to take their chances staying put and now are basically sitting ducks while it worsens around them. If anything happens, they will be alone :( Also read about Ryanair suspending flights for April and May so they are really stuck now, and will likely miss their first grandchild's birth too. I just don't understand how it got so bad over there when the authorities seem to be implementing the measures quite strictly :(

    I believe it's just taking some time for the incubation period to do it's thing and reveal all the infections prior to lockdown.


  • #5069
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    I'm surprised there wasn't an uproar yesterday when Trump blatantly said he's putting the economy ahead of American lives. Dr Fauci no where to be seen, so it was all Trump. And the reporters in the room just moved on to next question, so surreal. Trump is right, he could pull a gun and kill someone live on TV and he'd still get re-elected. .
    Most of that is probably true but the last bit is now less than 50:50.


  • #5070
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Exactly! If you work for a big multi national you cannot just start using unapproved software


    Most should have a setup where you can SSL (or whatever) in.
    Problem is that your average worker won't have a work laptop set up for it.
    The IT nerds will be able to work away. The rest, maybe not so much


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  • #5071
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,820 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    I'm surprised there wasn't an uproar yesterday when Trump blatantly said he's putting the economy ahead of American lives. Dr Fauci no where to be seen, so it was all Trump. And the reporters in the room just moved on to next question, so surreal. Trump is right, he could pull a gun and kill someone live on TV and he'd still get re-elected. .

    He makes both the Bush's look like complete left wing hippies in comparison. If there was one numbnuts you didn’t want in charge on the entire face of the planet for a crisis of this magnitude it’s this fücking goon Trump.


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