CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 12:33PM

eldudebros wrote: »

What are Londoners supposed to do if they're expected to go to work? It's easy to judge others and point the finger, but unless the government shut more places down I don't see what they're expected to do but continue on as they are.

I agree, the underground closed off many lines which meant the remaining opened lines were going to be used by everyone and more often as people now have to get 2 or 3 trains to their work as opposed to only 1 train.

It would have made sense to leave them all open and even put on more trains and ask key service companies to allow staggered working times so there are less people on the tube at rush hour....but then again that would have been the sensible thing to do.

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 12:33PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Spanish enforcement of their lockdown:

As regards lockdown can we see similar scenes for those flouting the rules. I'm open to a different sound track / maybe something traditional etc.

https://twitter.com/handyman1543/status/1242400908912349185?s=20

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 12:34PM

Xertz wrote: »

There's no data on it as the virus is too new. Here's to hoping, but it's still pretty active in hot places.

Also, seasonality may well be to do with cold weather causing people to be in easy-to-spread high densities. So, the various mitigation measures may be creating the same effect i.e. spreading people out and making transmission less easy. There are a several theories on seasonality but, the changes in human behaviour in hot weather may be a lot to do with why certain bugs don't spread.

Good answer , top marks , instead of the trump bashing!

EDit · 24-03-2020 12:35PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I agree, the underground closed off many lines which meant the remaining opened lines were going to be used by everyone and more often as people now have to get 2 or 3 trains to their work as opposed to only 1 train.

It would have made sense to leave them all open and even put on more trains and ask key service companies to allow staggered working times so there are less people on the tube at rush hour....but then again that would have been the sensible thing to do.

I believe that they are unable to reopen the stations and run more trains due to staff shortages. Only a matter of time until the army are checking everyone entering tube stations to make sure they are essential workers IMO

wakka12 · 24-03-2020 12:37PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

What are the chances that the actual covid 19 virus is seasonally affected ? Not the hospitals response but the virus itself

Large increase in cases in equatorial and tropical and desert climates lately would make it unlikely

theballz · 24-03-2020 12:37PM

MOR316 wrote: »

This is the thing I'm finding hard to understand.

Me, you or anyone could have it, could actually not be affected by it whatsoever and then pass it on.

That's very scary

*This is just from what I've read. I have nothing medically factual to back it up

Why are you finding this hard to understand? It's very well publicised, please PLEASE take precaution and READ what the HSE is publishing.

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 12:37PM

GM228 wrote: »

Interesting CDC study:-

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-coronavirus-survived-in-princess-cruise-cabins-up-to-17-days-after-passengers-left.html?__source=sharebar%7Cfacebook&par=sharebar

This highlights the difference with countries that are disinfecting streets etc. We are told not necessary. Should we maybe ask the Chinese/ Koreans/ Italians before we decide we won't implement a measure before dismissing it outright.

https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1242405800212975616?s=20

Tea Shock · 24-03-2020 12:38PM

sadie1502 wrote: »

They are at it again!!!

Hantavirus. Wtf are they doing out there.

Firstpost: Man dies from hantavirus in China: All you need to know about the virus,
and how it spreads.
https://www.firstpost.com/health/man-dies-from-hantavirus-in-china-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-virus-and-how-it-spreads-8184521.html

Hantavirus is decades old.

It has a mortality rate of 38%

If that got out, we'd be begging Coronavirus to come back! But it's much harder to get!

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 12:38PM

Tea Shock wrote: »

Depends on your definition of "travel transmission". every case outside china can be related back to travel transmission.

the question I’m positing is how affected by the summer is community transmission - xertz has a decent opinion on it , I’d refer to that

24-03-2020 12:39PM

sadie1502 wrote: »

They are at it again!!!

Hantavirus. Wtf are they doing out there.

Firstpost: Man dies from hantavirus in China: All you need to know about the virus,
and how it spreads.
https://www.firstpost.com/health/man-dies-from-hantavirus-in-china-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-virus-and-how-it-spreads-8184521.html

Hantavirus is fairly prevalent in Europe if I remember correctly from a case we had here in 2012 of a German tourist.

Lavinia · 24-03-2020 12:39PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

This highlights the difference with countries that are disinfecting streets etc. We are told not necessary. Should we maybe ask the Chinese/ Koreans/ Italians before we decide we won't implement a measure before dismissing it outright.

https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1242405800212975616?s=20

I watched videos of ordinary people in China on youtube showing how is their daily life going

and what all measures thy ar taking to stop the spread.

i really found it impressive and also so consciously socially-responsible as oppose to scenes that may be seen in eg some areas of dublin..

BKtje · 24-03-2020 12:40PM

plodder wrote: »

Along with some of those symptoms, CNN was also reporting that a sudden loss of taste or smell has been associated with a lot of mild cases, as it has for previous coronaviruses apparently.

I think we'll probably get a better picture in the coming days and weeks of what mild cases look like, so we'll have a better chance of isolating and containing the spread.

A friend has it and she lost her taste. A colleague opposite me has lost taste and smell but is fine apart from that. Not recognised at symptoms here so no home office for him. We're in IT for a food giant so limited on site support is required.

Speakerboxx · 24-03-2020 12:40PM

What's the update with the government meeting today? Are we on lockdown yet?

frillyleaf · 24-03-2020 12:40PM

BluePlanet wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/

Unfortunately the government are slow learners.
It will take 10+ days of harsh lockdown before we see a benefit.

Perhaps the 'soft' approach taken hereto has made some ground in flattening the curve? i really don't know.
But it's clearly not enough.

We have a blueprint on containing this virus from China, S Korea and Italy.
The government cannot do the S Korea response as they do not have the test kits, nor do they have the guts to use mobile phone data for contact tracing.

That leaves the China response.
Copying Italy should be avoided.

Yes and quarantine of people in and out of the country needs to be done to follow their models

mick987 · 24-03-2020 12:41PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I wouldn't wish this on anyone else on the planet except for maybe Arlene but I would be delighted if Trump caught the virus and ended up critically ill from it. I don't want to see him or anyone else die but it would be fitting if he ended up totally fcuked from it and unable to continue.

I would't wish this on anyone, then goes on to name 2 people he hopes catch it and gets critically ill. Nice One

ILoveYourVibes · 24-03-2020 12:41PM

Speakerboxx wrote: »

What's the update with the government meeting today? Are we on lockdown yet?

they won't call it that. It will be called restrictions.

Tea Shock · 24-03-2020 12:41PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Where is it summer right now in the world. Australia is in warmer season and only has 2k positive tests, nobody said it would disappear in the summer seasons but the numbers getting it might reduce.

Only because they are a bit behind the rest of the world in terms of it's arrival. About half of their cases have come in the last 48 hours.

fits · 24-03-2020 12:44PM

GM228 wrote: »

Interesting CDC study:-

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-coronavirus-survived-in-princess-cruise-cabins-up-to-17-days-after-passengers-left.html?__source=sharebar%7Cfacebook&par=sharebar

They did not investigate if it was viable virus. Headline is misleading.

walshb · 24-03-2020 12:44PM

theballz wrote: »

Why are you finding this hard to understand? It's very well publicised, please PLEASE take precaution and READ what the HSE is publishing.

The HSE were originally telling us that you needed 15 minutes contact with an affected person to be at risk....🤔

cosanostra · 24-03-2020 12:44PM

What times the cabinet meeting to conclude?

MOR316 · 24-03-2020 12:45PM

theballz wrote: »

Why are you finding this hard to understand? It's very well publicised, please PLEASE take precaution and READ what the HSE is publishing.

I have and am following the guidelines the HSE and Government provide. I go to work because they won't provide me with anything to work from home and in the evenings, I go for a walk to get my exercise in, alone and I'm never near anyone except in work. But, even still, I know and we all know they're not telling us everything

Perhaps I used the wrong word. Understading is the wrong term.
It's hard to grasp that a virus could just be in you, not affect you at all, not even a headache and then be passed on to someone else and it affects them badly.

Tea Shock · 24-03-2020 12:45PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

the question I’m positing is how affected by the summer is community transmission - xertz has a decent opinion on it , I’d refer to that

His opinion was the same as mine! :rolleyes:

fits · 24-03-2020 12:46PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I'm very glad my significant other hasn't taken public transport for past 4 weeks. I'm also lucky I don't have to take it. Once cases start popping up here, the writing was on the wall. People who are essential services and need to take public transport should 100% be given a mask of some description. That's a peer reviewed journal. It's fairly conclusive even at this early stage.
Government needs to connect key workers more.
If we need to beg China for masks, then that's what we should do.

Which peer reviewed journal was that published in?

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 12:48PM

Tea Shock wrote: »

His opinion was the same as mine! :rolleyes:

Show proof of work and you will be marked accordingly, can’t promise top marks like xertz cos they over exerted themselves

frillyleaf · 24-03-2020 12:48PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Surely you could buy/grow salads for rabbits?

Some lettuce is actually bad for rabbits

Duke of Url · 24-03-2020 12:48PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

As regards lockdown can we see similar scenes for those flouting the rules. I'm open to a different sound track / maybe something traditional etc.

https://twitter.com/handyman1543/status/1242400908912349185?s=20

Thats class

wakka12 · 24-03-2020 12:48PM

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/italy-virus-cases-10-times-higher-than-reported-repubblica-says?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=STFB&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3899fI6o2jIVIRGwFRyrt1wxqD6d6YSq5WZYdJiCo_aIA-Djczajh66f0#Echobox=1585042244
It's thought that only 10% of Italy's cases are being reported

ZX7R · 24-03-2020 12:49PM

GM228 wrote: »

Interesting CDC study:-

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-coronavirus-survived-in-princess-cruise-cabins-up-to-17-days-after-passengers-left.html?__source=sharebar%7Cfacebook&par=sharebar

People need to note that these stats refer to laboratory conditions only, to many variables to be directly compared to every day Life

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 12:50PM

Tea Shock wrote: »

Only because they are a bit behind the rest of the world in terms of it's arrival. About half of their cases have come in the last 48 hours.

They had their first cases in a similar timeline to us, in fact with their links to china, it should be a hell of a lot worse over there.

ILoveYourVibes · 24-03-2020 12:51PM

walshb wrote: »

The HSE were originally telling us that you needed 15 minutes contact with an affected person to be at risk....🤔

Really? Is that true? I mean that they said it.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP