CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 12:19PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yes there is quite a bit of confirmed evidence now that make the guidelines not as effective as they might seem.

https://threader.app/thread/1240035618920574977

Here's the science

893bet wrote: »

Corona virus can survive on metal for 6 months!

(Are we just picking random numbers with no sources yeah?, cool)

Read a book? an ebook? click a link? question it. Decide for yourself.

Don't spread misinformation

US2 · 24-03-2020 12:19PM

irishgoldberg wrote: »

Apart from chemists, supermarkets and petrol stations, what else would be deemed essential to stay open?

Pharmaceutical factories. Was told last night we will be staying open even if lockdown or even if colleges test positive.

frillyleaf · 24-03-2020 12:19PM

irishgoldberg wrote: »

Apart from chemists, supermarkets and petrol stations, what else would be deemed essential to stay open?

I’d say pet shops and people that work with animals in vets. Maybe banks etc

24-03-2020 12:19PM

Renjit wrote: »

Do you have a source or report link to justify this claim?

I don't know anything about the one month claim but this relates to the Diamond Princess:

"The coronavirus can survive on surfaces for up to 17 days, a study published Monday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says.
The study examines two public health responses to COVID-19 outbreaks on the Carnival-owned Diamond Princess ship in Japan and the Grand Princess ship in California.
The virus “was identified on a variety of surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated...” the researchers wrote."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-coronavirus-survived-in-princess-cruise-cabins-up-to-17-days-after-passengers-left.html

josip · 24-03-2020 12:20PM

One tiny positive from all of this.
A very old neighbour who was in hospital after a fall has been transferred to a local nursing home to free up beds.
Her transfer had been on hold while one side or the other were sorting out the fair deal scheme.
She was in hospital for 13 months and was ready for transfer 10 months ago.

Somedaythefire · 24-03-2020 12:20PM

1641 wrote: »

I don't know anything about the one month claim but this relates to the Diamond Princess:
"The coronavirus can survive on surfaces for up to 17 days, a study published Monday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says.

The study examines two public health responses to COVID-19 outbreaks on the Carnival-owned Diamond Princess ship in Japan and the Grand Princess ship in California.

The virus “was identified on a variety of surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated...” the researchers wrote."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-coronavirus-survived-in-princess-cruise-cabins-up-to-17-days-after-passengers-left.html

That doesn’t mean it can still infect you.

kingshankly · 24-03-2020 12:21PM

irishgoldberg wrote: »

Apart from chemists, supermarkets and petrol stations, what else would be deemed essential to stay open?

Hardware stores

Gael23 · 24-03-2020 12:22PM

Olympics postponed

US2 · 24-03-2020 12:22PM

Sports Direct in the UK claiming they are an essential business and stores will remain open is fairly sickening. Hopefully people remember that when this is all over. Greedy

Popeleo · 24-03-2020 12:23PM

deathbomber wrote: »

this has been discussed before and is well known, google it if you must!

Can't find what you were talking about, but I did find out that the earth is flat and run by lizard people.

Telling someone to use Google is not referencing! Stop spreading nonsense.

racso1975 · 24-03-2020 12:23PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

No of course you can't...what if the person packing the box has C19 and coughed into the box all over your item.:rolleyes:

I think in your case, as you are so scared then simply don't buy anything from anywhere. What is so essential that you need to buy it now anyway?

Appearently toys are. Cannot believe the amountbof online orders for stuff at the moment. Cantvundrrstand where all the money is coming from either.

It's as bad if not worse then xmas

mikeoc85 · 24-03-2020 12:23PM

US2 wrote: »

Sports Direct in the UK claiming they are an essential business and stores will remain open is fairly sickening. Hopefully people remember that when this is all over. Greedy

Sickening but they're a massive employer so lets hope they don't go under either. People still need to live when this is over

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 12:23PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Will these new measures close takeaways? Supermarkets are cleaned out and people have to eat

No they're not. That's the kind of cretinous statement that causes panic buying.

I done our weekly shop on sunday and got everything we wanted (€110 worth of goods) no buying multiple items or unnecessary items. There were no empty shelves.

DrumSteve · 24-03-2020 12:23PM

US2 wrote: »

Sports Direct in the UK claiming they are an essential business and stores will remain open is fairly sickening. Hopefully people remember that when this is all over. Greedy

That's literally the least I would expect from Mike Ashley

Renjit · 24-03-2020 12:25PM

1641 wrote: »

I don't know anything about the one month claim but this relates to the Diamond Princess:
"The coronavirus can survive on surfaces for up to 17 days, a study published Monday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says.

The study examines two public health responses to COVID-19 outbreaks on the Carnival-owned Diamond Princess ship in Japan and the Grand Princess ship in California.

The virus “was identified on a variety of surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated...” the researchers wrote."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-coronavirus-survived-in-princess-cruise-cabins-up-to-17-days-after-passengers-left.html

News headline is a bit sensationalist. From the source document, RNA was identified. This doesn't confirm the virus was intact:
"SARS-CoV-2 RNA was identified on a variety of
surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic
infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated
on the Diamond Princess but before disinfection procedures
had been conducted (Takuya Yamagishi, National Institute of
Infectious Diseases, personal communication, 2020). "

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6912e3-H.pdf

walshb · 24-03-2020 12:26PM

US2 wrote: »

Sports Direct in the UK claiming they are an essential business and stores will remain open is fairly sickening. Hopefully people remember that when this is all over. Greedy

They did a U turn. They are closing.

24-03-2020 12:26PM

Somedaythefire wrote: »

That doesn’t mean it can still infect you.

In itself it does not show whether it can or cannot infect you. It does show a need for caution in the meantime.

"The virus “was identified on a variety of surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess but before disinfection procedures had been conducted,” the researchers wrote, adding that the finding doesn’t necessarily mean the virus spread by surface."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-coronavirus-survived-in-princess-cruise-cabins-up-to-17-days-after-passengers-left.html

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 12:27PM

voluntary wrote: »

Italy is closer to achieving the herd immunity than any other nation in the world.

No theyre not. Even at 650,000 cases that's only 10%. You need over 60% to achieve herd immunity.

Rob A. Bank · 24-03-2020 12:30PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

No they're not. That's the kind of cretinous statement that causes panic buying.

The first panic buyer ever ?

SusanC10 · 24-03-2020 12:31PM

So, does this sound accurate to stay open ?

Supermarkets
Chemists
Post Office
Bank
Hardware

Butchers ?
Fishmongers ?
Fruit & Veg Store ?

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 12:31PM

Tea Shock wrote: »

I wondered if it was because of the long Paddy's weekend resulting in less testing. Possibly?

Because of Cheltenham race goers, blame them if there is no other apparent reason

Keyzer · 24-03-2020 12:32PM

US2 wrote: »

That's me. Had a nice 4 pints last night too. Only 6 of us in the pub though, what difference is that to being at home with 6 people.

Idiot...

spookwoman · 24-03-2020 12:32PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

I’d say pet shops and people that work with animals in vets. Maybe banks etc

post offices

and someone finaly got some sence

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1242428031702007816?s=20

froog · 24-03-2020 12:34PM

Lads its non essential RETAIL stores that will close, not factories/other businesses. Which is what they did in the UK by the way.

wakka12 · 24-03-2020 12:34PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Lets hope its 100 or 200 times what is known. This will be over faster than we think if that is the case.

How would it make much difference? Regardless of the death rate, it is crippling the healthcare infrastructure of some of the most developed nations in the world, it would imply that the mortality rate is not all that low. If it was 100 or 200 times lower than originally thought, then the more dangerous seasonal flu would cause more damage to the european healthcare infrastructure every year

MOR316 · 24-03-2020 12:35PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

So, does this sound accurate to stay open ?

Supermarkets
Chemists
Post Office
Bank
Hardware

Butchers ?
Fishmongers ?
Fruit & Veg Store ?

I'm still in work and I work in none of those places.

ICT are incredibly slow in allowing me access to servers to work from home so I'm stuck here until they get their finger out.

Everyone else is on a rotation thing. 2 people come in one day, 2 others come in the next.

It's quite idiotic

deisedevil · 24-03-2020 12:37PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

So, does this sound accurate to stay open ?

Supermarkets
Chemists
Post Office
Bank
Hardware

Butchers ?
Fishmongers ?
Fruit & Veg Store ?

Pharma. Can't stop that or far more people will start to suffer and die with lack of medication.

Strumms · 24-03-2020 12:38PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

That's literally the least I would expect from Mike Ashley

No fücker is going to wake up this morning thinking “hey, I really need a new pair of air max !” It’s going to cost him more to open the shops probably...

Paying staff
Fûck all custom
Light
Heat
Rent

If he has 5 staff per store even, from manager, security, sales/store people... averaging at 14 euros an hour, 40 hours work.. that’s a day 560 euros in staff costs and that’s a conservative outlook.

wakka12 · 24-03-2020 12:39PM

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-spains-death-toll-rises-by-514-in-one-day-to-2-696-11962778
WHO says USA may overtake Europe as epicentre of pandemic

Loafing Oaf · 24-03-2020 12:39PM

deisedevil wrote: »

Pharma. Can't stop that or far more people will start to suffer and die with lack of medication.

'Chemists' is what us old folks call pharmacies...

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