CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Speakerboxx · 24-03-2020 11:40AM

What's the update with the government meeting today? Are we on lockdown yet?

frillyleaf · 24-03-2020 11:40AM

BluePlanet wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/

Unfortunately the government are slow learners.
It will take 10+ days of harsh lockdown before we see a benefit.

Perhaps the 'soft' approach taken hereto has made some ground in flattening the curve? i really don't know.
But it's clearly not enough.

We have a blueprint on containing this virus from China, S Korea and Italy.
The government cannot do the S Korea response as they do not have the test kits, nor do they have the guts to use mobile phone data for contact tracing.

That leaves the China response.
Copying Italy should be avoided.

Yes and quarantine of people in and out of the country needs to be done to follow their models

mick987 · 24-03-2020 11:41AM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I wouldn't wish this on anyone else on the planet except for maybe Arlene but I would be delighted if Trump caught the virus and ended up critically ill from it. I don't want to see him or anyone else die but it would be fitting if he ended up totally fcuked from it and unable to continue.

I would't wish this on anyone, then goes on to name 2 people he hopes catch it and gets critically ill. Nice One

ILoveYourVibes · 24-03-2020 11:41AM

Speakerboxx wrote: »

What's the update with the government meeting today? Are we on lockdown yet?

they won't call it that. It will be called restrictions.

Tea Shock · 24-03-2020 11:41AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Where is it summer right now in the world. Australia is in warmer season and only has 2k positive tests, nobody said it would disappear in the summer seasons but the numbers getting it might reduce.

Only because they are a bit behind the rest of the world in terms of it's arrival. About half of their cases have come in the last 48 hours.

fits · 24-03-2020 11:44AM

GM228 wrote: »

Interesting CDC study:-

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-coronavirus-survived-in-princess-cruise-cabins-up-to-17-days-after-passengers-left.html?__source=sharebar%7Cfacebook&par=sharebar

They did not investigate if it was viable virus. Headline is misleading.

walshb · 24-03-2020 11:44AM

theballz wrote: »

Why are you finding this hard to understand? It's very well publicised, please PLEASE take precaution and READ what the HSE is publishing.

The HSE were originally telling us that you needed 15 minutes contact with an affected person to be at risk....🤔

cosanostra · 24-03-2020 11:44AM

What times the cabinet meeting to conclude?

MOR316 · 24-03-2020 11:45AM

theballz wrote: »

Why are you finding this hard to understand? It's very well publicised, please PLEASE take precaution and READ what the HSE is publishing.

I have and am following the guidelines the HSE and Government provide. I go to work because they won't provide me with anything to work from home and in the evenings, I go for a walk to get my exercise in, alone and I'm never near anyone except in work. But, even still, I know and we all know they're not telling us everything

Perhaps I used the wrong word. Understading is the wrong term.
It's hard to grasp that a virus could just be in you, not affect you at all, not even a headache and then be passed on to someone else and it affects them badly.

Tea Shock · 24-03-2020 11:45AM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

the question I’m positing is how affected by the summer is community transmission - xertz has a decent opinion on it , I’d refer to that

His opinion was the same as mine! :rolleyes:

fits · 24-03-2020 11:46AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I'm very glad my significant other hasn't taken public transport for past 4 weeks. I'm also lucky I don't have to take it. Once cases start popping up here, the writing was on the wall. People who are essential services and need to take public transport should 100% be given a mask of some description. That's a peer reviewed journal. It's fairly conclusive even at this early stage.
Government needs to connect key workers more.
If we need to beg China for masks, then that's what we should do.

Which peer reviewed journal was that published in?

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 11:48AM

Tea Shock wrote: »

His opinion was the same as mine! :rolleyes:

Show proof of work and you will be marked accordingly, can’t promise top marks like xertz cos they over exerted themselves

frillyleaf · 24-03-2020 11:48AM

amadangomor wrote: »

Surely you could buy/grow salads for rabbits?

Some lettuce is actually bad for rabbits

Duke of Url · 24-03-2020 11:48AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

As regards lockdown can we see similar scenes for those flouting the rules. I'm open to a different sound track / maybe something traditional etc.

https://twitter.com/handyman1543/status/1242400908912349185?s=20

Thats class

wakka12 · 24-03-2020 11:48AM

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/italy-virus-cases-10-times-higher-than-reported-repubblica-says?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=STFB&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3899fI6o2jIVIRGwFRyrt1wxqD6d6YSq5WZYdJiCo_aIA-Djczajh66f0#Echobox=1585042244
It's thought that only 10% of Italy's cases are being reported

ZX7R · 24-03-2020 11:49AM

GM228 wrote: »

Interesting CDC study:-

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-coronavirus-survived-in-princess-cruise-cabins-up-to-17-days-after-passengers-left.html?__source=sharebar%7Cfacebook&par=sharebar

People need to note that these stats refer to laboratory conditions only, to many variables to be directly compared to every day Life

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 11:50AM

Tea Shock wrote: »

Only because they are a bit behind the rest of the world in terms of it's arrival. About half of their cases have come in the last 48 hours.

They had their first cases in a similar timeline to us, in fact with their links to china, it should be a hell of a lot worse over there.

ILoveYourVibes · 24-03-2020 11:51AM

walshb wrote: »

The HSE were originally telling us that you needed 15 minutes contact with an affected person to be at risk....🤔

Really? Is that true? I mean that they said it.

otnomart · 24-03-2020 11:53AM

BoatMad wrote: »

We don’t , each country has to take account of demographics and pop density etc , Dublin may need more extreme measures, but Ireland has a tiny fraction of the population density the UK has. We need to take account of national circumstances rather then just simply aping others

I think social distancing in Dublin is a real challenge, because (together with London) it must be the European capital with the highest number of accomodation sharing.

In other European cities, people live with the families (as mentioned already for Italy and Spain) or on their own.

If you take a house share with 4 flatmates from 4 different Counties, they have close contacts not only with each other, but also with 4 different workplaces and then with 4 different sets of friends and 4 different families.

I think there should be a Gov plan of requisitioning Hotels and using them for the quarantine of positive cases - as it is already happening elsewhere.

24-03-2020 11:53AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Really? Is that true? I mean that they said it.

That's what they consider contact worth recording in the contact tracing..

fr336 · 24-03-2020 11:54AM

Gentleman Off The Pitch wrote: »

I'm not picking on you here MOR316 but it is alarming that this is not general knowledge at this stage and may help explain why we continue to have so many in the country flout the recommendations made by the HSE et al.

This added to the questionable statements about wearing masks, the 15 minute nonsense, and no highlighting of the potential for aerosolised transmission could be doing untold damage in this country

Yes the thing about many people displaying no symptoms at all but being inadvertent carriers was big news in the first stages of this in UK. But this seems to have completely disappeared from the public discourse - exactly what we need it front and centre!

cdgalwegian · 24-03-2020 11:55AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Really? Is that true? I mean that they said it.

Normal conversation from 2 metres away, with someone not coughing; 15 mins deemed exposed.

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 11:55AM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/italy-virus-cases-10-times-higher-than-reported-repubblica-says?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=STFB&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3899fI6o2jIVIRGwFRyrt1wxqD6d6YSq5WZYdJiCo_aIA-Djczajh66f0#Echobox=1585042244
It's thought that only 10% of Italy's cases are being reported

Was posted earlier on, great news in the long run if true. The death rate reduces drastically if correct.

spookwoman · 24-03-2020 11:55AM

BKtje wrote: »

A friend has it and she lost her taste. A colleague opposite me has lost taste and smell but is fine apart from that. Not recognised at symptoms here so no home office for him. We're in IT for a food giant so limited on site support is required.

Heard about that about 4 days ago, bbc or sky it was.

kingshankly · 24-03-2020 11:56AM

Spain figures are heart breaking

deathbomber · 24-03-2020 11:56AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Was posted earlier on, great news in the long run if true. The death rate reduces drastically if correct.

old news, for all countries,long known infection rates are 10 or 20 x what is known

Lavinia · 24-03-2020 11:56AM

Virus can spread by infected surfaces eg person sneezed or coughed on some surface and virus is now on that surface
virus can survive up to 3 days on surfaces like plastic and stainless steel
it does deteriorate with time but still if other person touches that surface then touches their face eg mouth or eyets they can get infected.

deathbomber · 24-03-2020 11:59AM

Lavinia wrote: »

Virus can spread by infected surfaces eg person sneezed or coughed on some surface and virus is now on that surface
virus can survive up to 3 days on surfaces like plastic and stainless steel
it does deteriorate with time but still if other person touches that surface then touches their face eg mouth or eyets they can get infected.

coronavirus can survive for nearly up to a month on metal and hard plastic surfaces, indeed the majority of the virus dies but active cells are still present, dependent on temperature and humidity etc, any fluctuations ii.e. parcels travelling through different climates will eradicate the virus

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 12:00PM

deathbomber wrote: »

old news, for all countries,long known infection rates are 10 or 20 x what is known

Lets hope its 100 or 200 times what is known. This will be over faster than we think if that is the case.

otnomart · 24-03-2020 12:00PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

The numbers testing positive isnt a good thing to compare countries with at all. The numbers hospitalized, the amount in ICU and the number of deaths are the only things that matter.

And the lenght of time in ICU.
"With the coronavirus, they're in ICU an average of two or three weeks, as can be seen in other countries"
From a Netherlands source: https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/24/coronavirus-keep-icus-busy-months-patients-risk-brabant-doctor-says

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