CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

ILoveYourVibes · 24-03-2020 01:01PM

By the way may i ask a question?

It might be stupid....but

Why is it numbers went down three days in a row in Ireland from 196 to 191 to 126 to 102 then went up again? Was it different testing?

Also why when the numbers in Italy went down for two days did people think this was a sign of a turn around so quickly but they didn't here?

They had changes in Italian testing recently too.

I am not a statistician but why the difference in reaction?

Is it just because we have accepted the surge is going to come etc?

DrumSteve · 24-03-2020 01:02PM

sadie1502 wrote: »

Like what? Be more specific

Most public spaces, beaches, parks and so forth being closed.

Again, take it with a pinch of salt, but tbh these would be people who would deal in that area.

ILoveYourVibes · 24-03-2020 01:03PM

cdgalwegian wrote: »

Normal conversation from 2 metres away, with someone not coughing; 15 mins deemed exposed.

Oh yes i think my mother is still following that.

I mean she is social distancing but walking away after 15 mins. I won't be able to stop her.

Its best not to try.

So its not true then? You can stay at this distance for longer?

otnomart · 24-03-2020 01:03PM

kingshankly wrote: »

Spain figures are heart breaking

and the French as well, they do have a high number of deaths

Renjit · 24-03-2020 01:03PM

deathbomber wrote: »

coronavirus can survive for nearly up to a month on metal and hard plastic surfaces, indeed the majority of the virus dies but active cells are still present, dependent on temperature and humidity etc, any fluctuations ii.e. parcels travelling through different climates will eradicate the virus

Do you have a source or report link to justify this claim?

deathbomber · 24-03-2020 01:04PM

Renjit wrote: »

Do you have a source or report link to justify this claim?

this has been discussed before and is well known, google it if you must!

* actually i just did again and new studies are out and indeed the time frame is a lot shorter, however to be sure, i would take th month as it is in the same family as SARS andd tests were done on this and were found to be circa 30 days survival, just be careful

ILoveYourVibes · 24-03-2020 01:05PM

TBH i think they will put Ireland into lockdown from social pressure. I wish there was as much pressure on them for testing.

Rob A. Bank · 24-03-2020 01:05PM

Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 24 March 2020 @ 08:00 hrs.

novel-coronavirus-cases-EU-UK-2020-03-24.png?itok=o8qfxeqU

novel-coronavirus-cases-EU-UK-2020-03-24.png?itok=o8qfxeqU

The barchart seems to have leveled off a bit for daily cases in Europe over the last 5 days.

Perhaps the mitigation measures are showing an effect, but it is far too early to be sure.

Larger clickable version of the barchart here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 01:05PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

By the way may i ask a question?

It might be stupid....but

Why is it numbers went down three days in a row in Ireland from 196 to 191 to 126 to 102 then went up again? Was it different testing?

Also why when the numbers in Italy went down for two days did people think this was a sign of a turn around so quickly but they didn't here?

They had changes in Italian testing recently too.

I am not a statistician but why the difference in reaction?

Is it just because we have accepted the surge is going to come etc?

Well on the Italy side of things, its because they introduced their lock-down about 14 days ago so it would make sense for numbers to be dropping, also the death rates dropped 2 days in a row which is a better indication than positive tests.

Strumms · 24-03-2020 01:05PM

Jake1 wrote: »

Just curious as to how others feel about people dropping leaflets in door's, during this time.

We had a milkman put a leaflet through the door. I was furious, my partner not so much. Think's the man was doing no harm.

I think it’s wise that people don’t involve themselves in actions that are not necessary. Leaflet dropping is unnecessary. Be it in relation to products being sold, services rendered or charity organizations... whatever... people need to be responsible and stay the fück home and leave people alone in these worrying times.

downcow · 24-03-2020 01:06PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/italy-virus-cases-10-times-higher-than-reported-repubblica-says?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=STFB&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3899fI6o2jIVIRGwFRyrt1wxqD6d6YSq5WZYdJiCo_aIA-Djczajh66f0#Echobox=1585042244
It's thought that only 10% of Italy's cases are being reported

This was said at one of the UK Boris updates last week that for every one reported 10 had it

ILoveYourVibes · 24-03-2020 01:06PM

otnomart wrote: »

and the French as well, they do have a high number of deaths

They don't. They have 800 dead.

Italy has 6000 dead with a population of 60 million.

Whereas China has 3000 dead with a population of one billion. Let that sink in.

RollieFingers · 24-03-2020 01:08PM

Hopefully we don't need a full on lockdown, city centre is grand at the minute, not many around and majority are social distancing. I'm on my break from work before anyone asks why I'm there

shesty · 24-03-2020 01:08PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

By the way may i ask a question?

It might be stupid....but

Why is it numbers went down three days in a row in Ireland from 196 to 191 to 126 to 102 then went up again? Was it different testing?

Also why when the numbers in Italy went down for two days did people think this was a sign of a turn around so quickly but they didn't here?

They had changes in Italian testing recently too.

I am not a statistician but why the difference in reaction?

Is it just because we have accepted the surge is going to come etc?

It may be to do with an increase in tests feeding into that jump. (I can't confirm or deny that by the way, haven't done the research)
Also exponential curves tend to jump every third day. If I remember my maths correctly.

walshb · 24-03-2020 01:09PM

Are we expecting more test results for today compared to yesterday?

is_that_so · 24-03-2020 01:09PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

By the way may i ask a question?

It might be stupid....but

Why is it numbers went down three days in a row in Ireland from 196 to 191 to 126 to 102 then went up again? Was it different testing?

Also why when the numbers in Italy went down for two days did people think this was a sign of a turn around so quickly but they didn't here?

They had changes in Italian testing recently too.

I am not a statistician but why the difference in reaction?

Is it just because we have accepted the surge is going to come etc?

The model for us was for 30% increase but not necessarily a flat 30%, some days might be higher some lower. So far we are below that but we may well get that 30% at some point. They expect to see the effect of the current measures in the next week and hopefully signs of that curve flattening they want to achieve.
In Italy there is hope that they may have peaked.

ILoveYourVibes · 24-03-2020 01:11PM

Thank you to both posters who answered my question. Niallo and Shesty.

Are we expecting more test results for today compared to yesterday?

I would expect so.

citytillidie · 24-03-2020 01:11PM

4th death here in the North

ILoveYourVibes · 24-03-2020 01:11PM

is_that_so wrote: »

In Italy there is hope that they may have peaked.

I doubt they have.

otnomart · 24-03-2020 01:12PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

INMO Trolley Watch figures for March 24th 2020

https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

Slight rise overnight... Irish hospitals 32 beds short today.

That is the really scary picture.
Ireland has had this patients on trolleys issue, for years and years.

The Gov should think about requisitining Hotels or even Ferries to convert them into Hospitals for the milder cases.
Italy has just refitted a ship with a very quick turnaround
https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/splendid-case-study-how-first-passenger-ship-was-transformed-coronavirus-relief

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 01:13PM

catrat12 wrote: »

I’m scared of everything
Can I still order packages on amazon from England just get postman to leave near house and then spray them down should I be ok then

No of course you can't...what if the person packing the box has C19 and coughed into the box all over your item.:rolleyes:

I think in your case, as you are so scared then simply don't buy anything from anywhere. What is so essential that you need to buy it now anyway?

cdgalwegian · 24-03-2020 01:13PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Oh yes i think my mother is still following that.

I mean she is social distancing but walking away after 15 mins. I won't be able to stop her. Its best not to try.

So its not true then? You can stay at this distance for longer?

In a pandemic, the rule is 'assume everyone is positive for Covid-19'. With so many unknowns, coupled with the rate of infection that seems to be happening, but trying not to sound alarmist, there's no way i would even give it 15 mins.

Tea Shock · 24-03-2020 01:14PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Why is it numbers went down three days in a row in Ireland from 196 to 191 to 126 to 102 then went up again? Was it different testing?

I wondered if it was because of the long Paddy's weekend resulting in less testing. Possibly?

893bet · 24-03-2020 01:15PM

Corona virus can survive on metal for 6 months!

(Are we just picking random numbers with no sources yeah?, cool)

irishgoldberg · 24-03-2020 01:16PM

Apart from chemists, supermarkets and petrol stations, what else would be deemed essential to stay open?

DrumSteve · 24-03-2020 01:17PM

893bet wrote: »

Corona virus can survive on metal for 6 months!

(Are we just picking random numbers with no sources yeah?, cool)

I've been surviving on Metal for 20 years!

\\m// (..) \\m//

ShooterSF · 24-03-2020 01:18PM

Sorry if it has been asked but size of thread and that. Does anyone know when the first pandemic unemployment payment goes through? Thought it would have been today but can't find much info on it.

crossman47 · 24-03-2020 01:18PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

TBH i think they will put Ireland into lockdown from social pressure. I wish there was as much pressure on them for testing.

No need. They're putting all the pressure they can on themselves to increase testing. It just can't be done overnight and I imagine the blockage will be the ability to process the tests once taken.

Rob A. Bank · 24-03-2020 01:19PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

Good answer , top marks , instead of the trump bashing!

That toxic moron Trump deserves every bit of 'bashing' he gets, and a lot more besides.

He is presiding over what will be one of the worst public health disasters in modern times... thanks to his lies, misinformation, negligence and the unending septic slop of his daily tweets.

walshb · 24-03-2020 01:19PM

893bet wrote: »

Corona virus can survive on metal for 6 months!

(Are we just picking random numbers with no sources yeah?, cool)

Probably metal in a vacuum or some laboratory type setting....:P

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP