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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Rapid test kits aren't proven to work effectively yet.

    They said theres more kits due this week. A large amount of medicial supplies are due to start being brought into the country this week

    Aerlingus are to operate the flights. First flight 28th March, up to 5 daily by 31st, DUB-PEK, 660tons initial, 50-60 flights, with up to 5 of these over the next 2 months..more info on these flights over in the aviation forum
    The kits mentioned in the El Pais article also talks about inconclusive tests. I think the reason they are using them is to rapidly accelerate the numbers they have tested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    Rapid test kits aren't proven to work effectively yet.

    They said theres more kits due this week. A large amount of medicial supplies are due to start being brought into the country this week

    Aerlingus are to operate the flights. First flight 28th March, up to 5 daily by 31st, DUB-PEK, 660tons initial, 50-60 flights, with up to 5 of these over the next 2 months..more info on these flights over in the aviation forum
    They are expensive.
    What's your source that they not proven to work effectively?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    mean gene wrote: »
    Again it has to be stated flights full of potential virus carriers arriving in every few minutes in Dublin and not been checked. Wtf is the point of all these measures. Also ferry's coming in daily

    Ferry's fundamentally carry vital goods into this country. We can't shut them down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It is up to everyone to confront idiots now. People's lives are at stake. Chicken **** attitude has gotten us to a place where the scumbags do what they want.

    I've had hassle/abuse because I call out people for littering, I have a pair so will continue doing it.
    Well good luck with that. Don't forget to ask yourself what you're doing out as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Let's hope this trend continues, I'm sick of all the negative talk. Italian numbers down again in line with Wuhan after they introduced the lockdown.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/kerooke/status/1242138920739131392


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Ferry's fundamentally carry vital goods into this country. We can't shut them down.

    I'm on abt non cargo ferry's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,273 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    No the Irish media is posting online happiness about the TOOTHFAIRY still being able to visit kids so don't worry. You couldn't make it up. They have lost all credibility.


    https://twitter.com/TodayFM/status/1242356726852202501

    The Irish media can no longer talk to adults about adult topics to its resorting to to talking to the nations toddlers instead. Lets see if the toddlers of Ireland tell them to do one.

    You know it’s bad when the tooth fairy tells people to keep washing our hands instead of keep brushing our teeth :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Please dont take this as fact, just my logic based on the facts we know.

    There is little recorded, detailed, scientific history on similar epidemics other that SARs etc. But we do know H1N1 Spanish flu (thought to originate from the UK/US) was far more deadly in the second phase once it had mutated. The first stage (pre-mutation) killed the old and infirm, but the second wave was indiscriminate young and fit alike, 10 times more deadly than the first.

    The second wave arrived within 12 months of the first, and the only people who had immunity to the second wave were those who caught the first infection.

    IF CV19 followed the same path, and IF a vaccine is 12-18 months away then, strange as it may seem, mathematically your best chance of long term survival is to catch this strain now, and get immunity.

    That said we still dont know if immunity is a thing, as there has been talk of reinfection, or possibly is the reinfection a mutation ?

    EDIT: This is NOT advice - its just maths, I am in lockdown and I follow gov advice.

    Anyway NO ONE KNOWS, yet......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    mean gene wrote: »
    I'm on abt non cargo ferry's

    Which ones are they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    The elite are going to make serious money out of this. No vaccine three months later.

    Care to explain this? how are the "elite" going to profit from this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,563 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Let's hope this trend continues, I'm sick of all the negative talk. Italian numbers down again in line with Wuhan after they introduced the lockdown.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/kerooke/status/1242138920739131392

    We're fighting a global pandemic.....birra' negativity a givennnnnn!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,251 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    No the Irish media is posting online happiness about the TOOTHFAIRY still being able to visit kids so don't worry. You couldn't make it up. They have lost all credibility.


    https://twitter.com/TodayFM/status/1242356726852202501

    The Irish media can no longer talk to adults about adult topics to its resorting to to talking to the nations toddlers instead. Lets see if the toddlers of Ireland tell them to do one.

    Children are people too and they have been just as badly affected as adults, especially the kids who’s parents are responsibly self isolating and not having play dates etc

    It’s no harm to have something on the radio to reassure children given that it’s pretty much wall to wall misery the rest of the time

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    We've been in a gradual lockdown anyway, more and more places are closing every day. More will probably be told to close today and other measures introduced but it's not going to be the lockdown you keep posting for.
    I think there is a lot of people sitting at home curtain twitching and taking photos of teens gathering, and assuming that the passing of a law will magically clear the streets. Or in their wildest fantasies, they see the army patrolling every street shooting people who are out after dark. They're going to be disappointed.

    If we can get the population to accept the measures and implement them voluntarily, it's going to work an awful lot better than imposing a set of mandatory rules. That's clearly what the government is hoping for, and aside from some obvious issues over the weekend that seems to be what is happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,563 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Sports Direct rebuked Boris' lockdown message yesterday....

    This morning, they caved......closing down....

    People need runners was their argument.....:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes



    The Irish media can no longer talk to adults about adult topics to its resorting to to talking to the nations toddlers instead. Lets see if the toddlers of Ireland tell them to do one.

    What is wrong with some light relief?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    walshb wrote: »
    We're fighting a global pandemic.....birra' negativity a givennnnnn!

    It's all ****en negative here, it's not healthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Two more passengers on the Diamond Princess have died . Total 11 now


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    Which ones are they?

    Empty ones.ya let non passenger ferry's in with goods etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Care to explain this? how are the "elite" going to profit from this?
    Because they always do! I did see read somewhere that hedge funds are looking to target companies that come out of this badly.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Two more passengers on the Diamond Princess have died . Total 11 now

    Just goes to show how long/drawn out the illness can be!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    There be some companies do well out of this pharma companies for one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,251 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Please dont take this as fact, just my logic based on the facts we know.

    There is little recorded, detailed, scientific history on similar epidemics other that SARs etc. But we do know H1N1 Spanish flu (thought to originate from the UK/US) was far more deadly in the second phase once it had mutated. The first stage (pre-mutation) killed the old and infirm, but the second wave was indiscriminate young and fit alike, 10 times more deadly than the first.

    The second wave arrived within 12 months of the first, and the only people who had immunity to the second wave were those who caught the first infection.

    IF CV19 followed the same path, and IF a vaccine is 12-18 months away then, strange as it may seem, mathematically your best chance of long term survival is to catch this strain now, and get immunity.

    That said we still dont know if immunity is a thing, as there has been talk of reinfection, or possibly is the reinfection a mutation ?

    Anyway NO ONE KNOWS, yet......
    If people listened to your hair brained advice, which is a thinly veiled call for people to deliberately catch the ‘milder’ form of the virus now, there would be a massive spike in infections and many many more people would die

    Your uninformed hypothetical speculation is the kind of nonsense that gets people killed

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,563 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Tokyo 2020 postponed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    mean gene wrote: »
    Empty ones.ya let non passenger ferry's in with goods etc


    What about the cargo/passenger ferries?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Akrasia wrote: »
    If people listened to your hair brained advice, which is a thinly veiled call for people to deliberately catch the ‘milder’ form of the virus now, there would be a massive spike in infections and many many more people would die

    Your uninformed hypothetical speculation is the kind of nonsense that gets people killed

    Its NOT advice, just interesting maths. I am not suggesting anyone do it, I am not, but the maths is there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    mean gene wrote: »
    Again it has to be stated flights full of potential virus carriers arriving in every few minutes in Dublin and not been checked. Wtf is the point of all these measures. Also ferry's coming in daily

    I would be shocked if there hasn’t been a near collapse of passenger numbers with many passengers returning to where they live.

    Also ferries are vital to supply chain. Things relating to food, medicine, medical equipment and supplies will have to continue to come in on flights and ferries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Meanwhile , London this morning

    article-8145799-26331778-148_964x543.jpg


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8145799/Tubes-trains-buses-rammed-day-one-UK-lockdown.html

    Honestly, the Irish government really needs to send a message TODAY - by banning all flights to and from London.
    This is an utter disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,983 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Its NOT advice, just interest maths.
    Where is the 'interest maths' in your post?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    Honestly, the Irish government really needs to send a message TODAY - by banning all flights to and from London.
    This is an utter disaster.
    The Irish government lacks the backbone to take firm measures like that to protect the public.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭domrush


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Because they always do! I did see read somewhere that hedge funds are looking to target companies that come out of this badly.

    What do you think this even means? Target?

    Grow up


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