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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #4412
    Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Coyote


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    So , we are grand then.

    no if you look at the breakdown you will see in two weeks time we will have 12,000 cases and 641 in ICU.
    the problem is what happens when all the ICU beds are full, who does not get an ICU bed and is left to die?


  • #4413
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    This is why paddy cosgrove was looking for some details to get this set up here. No names involved. Pretty impressive dashboard
    https://co.vid19.sg/dashboard


  • #4414
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I am so mad.

    I have legit not left the house for 8 days not for shopping not for a walk not even to receive a package. I havent walked outside the door. College is doing distance learning. My job i would say is gone.

    Yet just now i have been told by someone who keeps posting #STAYATHOME online everywhere that he is having visitors over and going out to visit others. I know of a dr whose husband is going to a private sports club still open.

    People are posting about social distancing yet NOT doing it. For a long time it was bloody govt ministers.

    Then someone who works in a bank told me they were considered key workers. WHY? Because they are tellers who give out cash to the elderly who never got used to using atms and cards. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? THE ELDERLY ARE STILL GOING TO THE BANK THREE TIMES A WEEK APPARENTLY TO GET CASH. The VERY groups we are all doing this to protect.

    I'm done i am looking after myself and my family. I am protecting US.

    My brother as a civil servant has been transferred to the HSE dept but even HE is working from home this week.

    People are being fake.


  • #4415
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Seriously, 6 dead is terrible.

    Will we ever actually reach 85,000 dead in Ireland as predicted by some back in previous iterations of this thread?

    Genuine question?


  • #4416
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Coyote wrote: »
    no if you look at the breakdown you will see in two weeks time we will have 12,000 cases and 641 in ICU.
    the problem is what happens when all the ICU beds are full, who does not get an ICU bed and is left to die?

    your ma?


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  • #4417
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,639 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    spookwoman wrote: »
    This is why paddy cosgrove was looking for some details to get this set up here. No names involved. Pretty impressive dashboard
    https://co.vid19.sg/dashboard

    too late, he's been cancelled


  • #4418
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Evidently so - what is it?
    Yes, the WHO et al. were too slow to react. Yes, contact tracing, social distancing and lockdown are helpful but insufficient on their own, but every little helps, as Tesco say.
    What are you proposing?


    Edit: I think we've been in agreement throughout the last ten threads, so it could be a misinterpretation of your intent - I guess when you said "Why are these countries locking down?", it wasn't an actual question - you were just poking at the WHO?

    (Crap - closed the reply tab by mistake and cannot remember everything I wrote)

    Countries are ignoring WHO advice (bar general viral guidelines like wash your hands ;)) when they have from the very start being saying keep trade going with China, don't block them, don't cancel flights etc etc.

    They are far too policised (and too well funded from a certain country) - 500 million held in a pandemic bond that is at least 3 weeks away from being released if ever

    Dr Ryan still saying don't go into lockdown - every country looking at Italy and going feck that we are locking down now!
    Who to believe - the WHO or the rest of the world?


  • #4419
    Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Coyote


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    your ma?

    yes quite lightly she would be left to die, which is why I have tried to protect her.
    also you when there is 35,000 cases even at 2% needing ICU there would not be any left for you unless your under 19 and don't need one.


  • #4420
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,442 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    Seriously, 6 dead is terrible.

    Will we ever actually reach 85,000 dead in Ireland as predicted by some back in previous iterations of this thread?

    Genuine question?

    Better hope not. Look at the state Italy is in with 6,000 dead.


  • #4421
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    Outbreaks happen every so often.
    The Ebola virus outbreak sticks in my mind as it was recent enough.

    I remember all the plans that were put in place for the Ebola virus at work.
    PPE, isolation rooms, SOPs, how would we process patient samples. The virus was transmitted through fluids so opening blood samples on a tracked analyser would require decontaminating our whole system for each sample.
    Thankfully that outbreak didnt hit us hard, but we still had to prepare.

    Imagine if we had set up testing centres and developed expensive testing kits and closed all borders at the time. We would cripple the economy every time there was an outbreak.

    That would have been wildly excessive and a waste of time and resources. We didnt set up testing centres for zika either, or swine flu or any other outbreak .
    So why should we have acted sooner for this outbreak?

    We have specialists and experts in positions of power to plan accordingly to any national threat.

    Epidemiologists, scientists, economists, the department of health, the HSE. Its their job to act appropriately when we have to.

    Your comments come from a place of hindsight. Why didn't we see it coming?
    No one saw this coming.


    Well not no-one. Anybody who plans things on a slightly longer scale than the election cycle.

    This is what Bill Gates had to say about epidemics, back in 2015
    But these tools must be part of an overall global health system – and epidemic preparedness should look like war preparedness, with full-time workers and reserves ready to deploy rapidly, and to see how well people are prepared.
    Medical reserve corps, with lots of people with training and expertise ready to deploy.

    Cuba was able to send 53 doctors to Italy. China did likewise internally. Zero EU help. We are me feiners at hearth (countries). Germany banning export of PPE. This shouldn't be forgotten.



    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/bill-gates-epidemic-pandemic-preparedness-ebola-covid-19/


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  • #4422
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,249 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    Seriously, 6 dead is terrible.

    Will we ever actually reach 85,000 dead in Ireland as predicted by some back in previous iterations of this thread?

    Genuine question?

    A lot of those predictions were based on worst case scenarios and also social distancing not implemented. The main reason fatalities are so low is that rate of infections has been slow and steady rather than huge peaks. This has meant that hospitals can cope.


  • #4423
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    fritzelly wrote: »
    (Crap - closed the reply tab by mistake and cannot remember everything I wrote)

    Countries are ignoring WHO advice (bar general viral guidelines like wash your hands ;)) when they have from the very start being saying keep trade going with China, don't block them, don't cancel flights etc etc.

    They are far too policised (and too well funded from a certain country) - 500 million held in a pandemic bond that is at least 3 weeks away from being released if ever

    Dr Ryan still saying don't go into lockdown - every country looking at Italy and going feck that we are locking down now!
    Who to believe - the WHO or the rest of the world?
    Gotcha. I read your question as a question, apologies. The WHO are a disappointment, yes, no argument.


  • #4424
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    joeguevara wrote: »
    A lot of those predictions were based on worst case scenarios and also social distancing not implemented. The main reason fatalities are so low is that rate of infections has been slow and steady rather than huge peaks. This has meant that hospitals can cope.

    Thats a good thing right?


  • #4425
    Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Coyote


    joeguevara wrote: »
    A lot of those predictions were based on worst case scenarios and also social distancing not implemented. The main reason fatalities are so low is that rate of infections has been slow and steady rather than huge peaks. This has meant that hospitals can cope.

    please watch this video on exponential growth


  • #4426
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    joeguevara wrote: »
    A lot of those predictions were based on worst case scenarios and also social distancing not implemented. The main reason fatalities are so low is that rate of infections has been slow and steady rather than huge peaks. This has meant that hospitals can cope.
    The main reason fatalities are so "low" is that this sh*t is only starting. It's only 3 weeks since our first case.


  • #4427
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,442 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    So where are we compared to Italy then?

    We are two weeks behind with them having 12.6 times our population?

    In two weeks we will have 5000 cases and 482 deaths?

    Not an apples to apples comparison. The average age of hospitalizations in Italy is 67, its 44 in Ireland younger than the average age in China which was 47 and saw lower death rate than Italy in confirmed cases.

    I highlighted when Italy, Spain and UK had similar number of confirmed cases to ours few hours ago, all had more deaths after 1,000 confirmed https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112928849&postcount=3827


  • #4428
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    This is what Bill Gates had to say about epidemics, back in 2015

    If that video teaches me one thing, it's that money cannot buy charisma or a strong set of vocal chords.


  • #4429
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,249 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    I am so mad.

    I have legit not left the house for 8 days not for shopping not for a walk not even to receive a package. I havent walked outside the door. College is doing distance learning. My job i would say is gone.

    Yet just now i have been told by someone who keeps posting #STAYATHOME online everywhere that he is having visitors over and going out to visit others. I know of a dr whose husband is going to a private sports club still open.

    People are posting about social distancing yet NOT doing it. For a long time it was bloody govt ministers.

    Then someone who works in a bank told me they were considered key workers. WHY? Because they are tellers who give out cash to the elderly who never got used to using atms and cards. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? THE ELDERLY ARE STILL GOING TO THE BANK THREE TIMES A WEEK APPARENTLY TO GET CASH. The VERY groups we are all doing this to protect.

    I'm done i am looking after myself and my family. I am protecting US.

    My brother as a civil servant has been transferred to the HSE dept but even HE is working from home this week.

    People are being fake.

    If people are putting themselves at risk by going out in public for non essential things even after all the directions are at this stage bordering on the insane. One good thing about people working in banks though is that the tellers are protected by reinforced glass so are not at risk of droplets. If they sanitise hands after every customer then risk is low. But for fcuck sake why people are continuing to queue up is beyond me.


  • #4430
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    spookwoman wrote: »
    This is why paddy cosgrove was looking for some details to get this set up here. No names involved. Pretty impressive dashboard
    https://co.vid19.sg/dashboard

    Holy sh!t that dashboard is amazing. Obviously raises privacy concerns but very important info. Why are we not using web tools more. HSE look medieval.

    506768.png

    506769.png

    506770.png


  • #4431
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Not an apples to apples comparison. The average age of hospitalizations in Italy is 67, its 44 in Ireland younger than the average age in China which was 47 and saw lower death rate than Italy in confirmed cases.

    I highlighted when Italy, Spain and UK had similar number of confirmed cases to ours few hours ago, all had more deaths after 1,000 confirmed https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112928849&postcount=3827

    So, 85000 deaths in Ireland then?

    Shoot, does that mean the schools wont reopen next week?


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  • #4432
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,249 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    Thats a good thing right?

    Yes.


  • #4433
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    spookwoman wrote: »
    This is why paddy cosgrove was looking for some details to get this set up here. No names involved. Pretty impressive dashboard
    https://co.vid19.sg/dashboard
    Yeah, this "ooh, my privacy" crap is ridiculous in this scenario.


  • #4434
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Yes.

    Cool, pubs open up again next week?


  • #4435
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Something stark from data. Getting into hospital one thing, getting out another.

    506771.png


  • #4436
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    joeguevara wrote: »
    If people are putting themselves at risk by going out in public for non essential things even after all the directions are at this stage bordering on the insane. One good thing about people working in banks though is that the tellers are protected by reinforced glass so are not at risk of droplets. If they sanitise hands after every customer then risk is low. But for fcuck sake why people are continuing to queue up is beyond me.


    The bank teller told me he is seeing elderly people que up and the SAME elderly people come in still maybe three times a week.

    People are socializing in each other's homes and posting online about social distancing. Probably people in this thread too and the op.

    In general the Irish people AREN'T doing it. They are just saying they will. And they won't do a lockdown either.


  • #4437
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Network graph slightly better than North / South

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    506773.png


  • #4438
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Holy sh!t that dashboard is amazing. Obviously raises privacy concerns but very important info. Why are we not using web tools more. HSE look medieval.

    3 irish imports in there if you look


  • #4439
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    a pity caps lock doesnt solve things isnt it

    im not seeing any evidence that merely being outside is in any serious way increasing risks, as long as one is sensible

    anyone who is losing the plot about people being outside seems to me to be just engaging in drama because they enjoy it or because they like telling other people what to do on social media.

    dont understand either behaviour myself but ppl are strange i spose.


  • #4440
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Deleted User wrote: »
    a pity caps lock doesnt solve things isnt it

    im not seeing any evidence that merely being outside is in any serious way increasing risks, as long as one is sensible

    anyone who is losing the plot about people being outside seems to me to be just engaging in drama because they enjoy it or because they like telling other people what to do on social media.

    dont understand either behaviour myself but ppl are strange i spose.

    All great in theory, but wait until we reach 85,000 dead in Ireland as predicted in threads V and VI and VIII.

    (Sorry, I'm being passive aggressive towards the cockwomble, mouth breathing neckbeards who scared the ****s out of various folk a few weeks ago)


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  • #4441
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    All great in theory, but wait until we reach 85,000 dead in Ireland as predicted in threads V and VI and VIII.

    (Sorry, I'm being passive aggressive towards the cockwomble, mouth breathing neckbeards who scared the ****s out of various folk a few weeks ago)

    why dont you wait to see how many dead we have at the peak of this?

    how low a number would make you embarrassed about your last few posts?


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