CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 02:39AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Most peoples problems with "broken" phones would be solved by charging it.

Yes of course, nobody knows when their phone battery is empty.

fritzelly · 24-03-2020 02:40AM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1242249371502157824?s=20

Seriously like WTF? Have all the staff just abandoned them - no detail in the news report.

spookwoman · 24-03-2020 02:42AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Seriously like WTF? Have all the staff just abandoned them - no detail in the news report.

Probably have, and hate to say it but its reality if things really get that bad where there seems no hope people will just go home to be with their family

cj maxx · 24-03-2020 02:42AM

murpho999 wrote: »

You do realise that we're testing more than some other countries.

There may be a backlog but tests still being done every day.2000 at present, soon to be 4000 and then 15000.

How do you know social distancing is not working as the incubation has not passed for that.

That's a week to 10 days away and then we can see if it's working.

Too many "experts" on here who just don't get it and screaming for a lockdown and will then expect to see an instant decline in numbers.

Wait till next week when UK is a week in to lockdown and their case numbers and deaths go up.

People also forget that a vast majority of people are in a self imposed lock down.

No. Numbers will continue to go up until we're over burdened and
then a total lockdown will be enforced
Why wait ?? Lockdown now FFS

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 02:46AM

cjmc wrote: »

No. Numbers will continue to go up until we're over burdened and
then a total lockdown will be enforced
Why wait ?? Lockdown now FFS

What's a lockdown to you, what else should we close that's currently open. The scenes we saw last weekend will simply not happen this weekend due to the public outcry over it.

Strumms · 24-03-2020 02:47AM

It WILL get worse before better. That much is spelled out for us, with luck, hard work and ingenuity and I guess self discipline and using our collective smarts, we’ll be ok and casualties minimal.

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 02:48AM

spookwoman wrote: »

Probably have, and hate to say it but its reality if things really get that bad where there seems no hope people will just go home to be with their family

You not think they should have informed these peoples families before they all ****ed off. It wouldn't happen in this country. There is something weird about all this.

24-03-2020 02:49AM

kowloon wrote: »

why are you even on this thread?

Explain that question.

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 02:49AM

cjmc wrote: »

No. Numbers will continue to go up until we're over burdened and
then a total lockdown will be enforced
Why wait ?? Lockdown now FFS

You don't know that if we'l get over-burdened, that's what they're trying to prevent.

But did you see Dr Holohan show where we are? He pointed ta the curve and he pointed at the start of the curve.

The infections are going to happen no matter what.

A lockdown here is highly likely but needs to be timed right and even then you may not see numbers drop.

If you get the timing ring, you'll eventually have to lift the restriction and then you risk a second wave of massive infections as people start going out and about again.

Also, we've been in a sort for lockdown for a while now. The people on beaches and parks are actually small minorities despite what people think.

joeguevara · 24-03-2020 02:50AM

People asking in different threads if barbers are still open? What reason is it at the moment for people to get a haircut?

Gods Gift · 24-03-2020 02:52AM

joeguevara wrote: »

People asking in different threads if barbers are still open? What reason is it at the moment for people to get a haircut?

They miss the touch of another human.

rossie1977 · 24-03-2020 02:53AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Wait till next week when UK is a week in to lockdown and their case numbers and deaths go up.

People also forget that a vast majority of people are in a self imposed lock down.

Yeah a full lockdown will take 3 weeks to show any real effects ie seeing infection rate fall

Italy had 9,172 confirmed cases and 463 deaths on March 9th day they went into lockdown.

Spain had 6,391 confirmed cases and 196 deaths on March 14th the day they went into lockdown

Woodsie1 · 24-03-2020 02:53AM

joeguevara wrote: »

People asking in different threads if barbers are still open? What reason is it at the moment for people to get a haircut?

State of my head,im in bits...I was going bald but its been that long its growing back,silver linings and all that:D

joeguevara · 24-03-2020 02:56AM

Before people demand for full lockdowns, it is important to listen to experts.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0322/1124657-who-coronavirus/

fritzelly · 24-03-2020 02:57AM

joeguevara wrote: »

People asking in different threads if barbers are still open? What reason is it at the moment for people to get a haircut?

I seriously need an haircut, meant to go last week and put it off - bad decision

yerwanthere123 · 24-03-2020 02:57AM

joeguevara wrote: »

People asking in different threads if barbers are still open? What reason is it at the moment for people to get a haircut?

If I die from Coronavirus I'd at least like to go with nice hair.

Strumms · 24-03-2020 02:58AM

joeguevara wrote: »

People asking in different threads if barbers are still open? What reason is it at the moment for people to get a haircut?

Come on, don’t be hating on people for wanting to look well for the coming of the apocalypse ! :eek:

Probably just can’t sit still, have to be doing something, going somewhere, they are a bit freaked out, want some normality like a haircut, yap to the barber and everything that goes with it...

Some people have no concept of having their movements and life options severely restricted, often large numbers of people just don’t know how to react in a crisis, just freaks them the fûck out... we are seeing this in the behavior at supermarkets and elsewhere.

bb12 · 24-03-2020 02:59AM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1242249371502157824?s=20

i think once this pandemic is finished many societies are going to have a serious sit down and conversations about their attitudes to how they treat the old people in their midst...this pandemic has shone a particularly unflattering light on the attitudes of a lot of people.

fritzelly · 24-03-2020 03:00AM

joeguevara wrote: »

Before people demand for full lockdowns, it is important to listen to experts.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0322/1124657-who-coronavirus/

Bit of an oxymoron

What we really need to focus on is finding those who are sick, those who have the virus, and isolate them, find their contacts and isolate them,

As has already been admitted you cannot find all contacts so meanwhile they are going around infecting lots more people and you reach a point where contact tracing becomes pointless
Why are all these countries locking down?

Hudur · 24-03-2020 03:04AM

Does Ireland have any national emergency storage of surgical masks, medicines and other useful stuff in this situation?

Finland is just opening their emergency storages which have millions of surgical masks and other stuff hospitals need:
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-11272257

This kind of thing:
https://www.nesa.fi/organisation/the-national-emergency-supply-agency/

cj maxx · 24-03-2020 03:07AM

murpho999 wrote: »

You don't know that if we'l get over-burdened, that's what they're trying to prevent.

But did you see Dr Holohan show where we are? He pointed ta the curve and he pointed at the start of the curve.

The infections are going to happen no matter what.

A lockdown here is highly likely but needs to be timed right and even then you may not see numbers drop.

If you get the timing ring, you'll eventually have to lift the restriction and then you risk a second wave of massive infections as people start going out and about again.

Also, we've been in a sort for lockdown for a while now. The people on beaches and parks are actually small minorities despite what people think.

Oh I agree with you but our experience isn't going to be much different to other countries. Why wait another day/week ?

joeguevara · 24-03-2020 03:08AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Bit of an oxymoron

As has already been admitted you cannot find all contacts so meanwhile they are going around infecting lots more people and you reach a point where contact tracing becomes pointless
Why are all these countries locking down?

I am pretty much complete lockdown anyway and have been for 13 days. Go out probably every 4 days, only to buy food and try to do so at times at with the least chance of crowds. I also go to walk the pier sometimes at 5am to just get fresh air and clear the head. If people did the same then we wouldn’t need lockdown. I’m at a loss at what to think. I just wish this was over.

Coyote · 24-03-2020 03:09AM

people need to stop thinking today or tomorrow number
any change we make takes 14 days to affect it, we need the number to drop to 0% by the end of the month to have any affect
even in a month at 10% from tomrrow we have 24K infected and 1200 need ICU beds that we don't have
the Avg time in hospital is around 18-20 days it's not a 1-3 days and they are out and well
if we don't stop it right now and then wait 14 days to change the number we are in trouble for a lot of people
at 20%

at 10%

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rUGncHqU0uMRbfw181eH4FahteTFuXjFU8WUFjKZMUQ/edit?usp=sharing

joeguevara · 24-03-2020 03:10AM

https://time.com/5808283/infectious-disease-fauci-trump-coronavirus/

This shows that at times like this politicians should not be doing briefings. He couldn’t go too far without fear of trump sacking him.

BorneTobyWilde · 24-03-2020 03:12AM

Nearly 1.25 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. Maybe Trump is right, fck it, let the cookie crumble and sweep up the crumbs

Jurgen Klopp · 24-03-2020 03:14AM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1242249371502157824?s=20

fritzelly wrote: »

Seriously like WTF? Have all the staff just abandoned them - no detail in the news report.

spookwoman wrote: »

Probably have, and hate to say it but its reality if things really get that bad where there seems no hope people will just go home to be with their family

The BBC are also being a tad misleading there too.

A lot of the dead in their beds are only allowed to be collected by specially equipped funeral home teams if the deceased have or suspected to have Covid 19.

In Madrid at least, said special funeral teams are now refusing to collect dead bodies as they no longer can source the proper protective gear.

I'm sure there are lots of staff fleeing the care homes in panic but also can't blame them. Most of these places rarely had/give staff proper protection in normal times and from my own personal experience I'd be willing to bet they would be expected to work with a suspected covid case with minimal to no protection.

That's before you get to any lazy and uncaring workers that somehow manage to keep these jobs.

"The army, during certain visits, found some older people completely abandoned, sometimes even dead in their beds," she said.

The defence ministry said that staff at some care homes had left after the coronavirus was detected.

Health officials have said that in normal circumstances the bodies of deceased residents are put in cold storage until they are collected by the funeral services.

But when the cause of death is suspected to be linked to coronavirus they are left in their beds until they can be retrieved by properly equipped funeral staffIn the capital Madrid, which has seen the highest number of cases and deaths, that could take up to 24 hours, officials said.

Spanish Health Minister Salvador Illa told a news conference that retirement homes were "an absolute priority for the government".

"We will exercise the most intensive monitoring of these centres," she added.

As the crisis in Madrid worsened, the city's municipal funeral home said it would stop the collection of Covid-19 victims from Tuesday because of a lack of protective equipment.

MrMusician18 · 24-03-2020 03:15AM

Strumms wrote: »

FG throughout their history have been beholden to big business or any business. They wanted money to keep rolling into the country and they don’t want businesses to suffer or miss out. They are a money party. That’s their first priority. They would probably rather see no recession and moderate numbers of ill and dead where the rest of us would rather us, our relatives and friends come out the other side, well and intact with maybe a recession to face and a difficult couple of years, that’s the difference.

That's absolute bollocks. This virus doesn't discriminate, affecting poor and wealthy alike. No one wants to see the vulnerable die from it. The government is moving heaven and earth to protect the nation, even when we have a cohort of moronic citizens determined to undermine the effort.

The recession is now nailed on, the governments policies to protect public health have guaranteed it.

Keep your anti-FG politics bashing for another day. I do not doubt their honesty in their efforts in this matter - not this time, there is too much at stake.

marilynrr · 24-03-2020 03:16AM

Strazdas wrote: »

Most people in Dublin are following social distancing measures to the maximum degree (and it's fantastic to see).

Anyone driving outside the county on a leisure trip in the middle of a global pandemic is clearly brain dead.

That's great to hear, and I didn't doubt that the majority would be trying their best.

But for those heading on little holidays it's just pure selfish behaviour and it would also probably make contact tracing more difficult!

I've no idea what kind of social distancing has been going on at the mobile parks though, or if people are having a few drinks and mingling and letting their kids play together when they're at the mobiles in holiday mode, but if they are doing that then they're risking spreading it between them when they're down here and then more of them might bring the virus back home to Dublin too!

joeguevara · 24-03-2020 03:17AM

New song for hygiene:

IF YOU’RE FREAKED OUT AND YOU KNOW IT WASH YOUR HANDS!

Ficheall · 24-03-2020 03:17AM

fritzelly wrote: »

As has already been admitted you cannot find all contacts so meanwhile they are going around infecting lots more people and you reach a point where contact tracing becomes pointless
Why are all these countries locking down?

Maybe you have somehow not yet heard/understood the term "flattening the curve", but there are some helpful pictures here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
The higher the maximum point on the graphs is, the more pressure the health system is put under (and thus, the more people that die). That is the reason for social distancing and locking down.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP