CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

lillycakes2 · 23-03-2020 06:39PM

cant believe we still have not ordered a travel ban

iwillyeah1234 · 23-03-2020 06:39PM

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

No words.

https://twitter.com/WellingMichael/status/1241491706677284870

no words indeed.

Doctors did not sign up to play God. absolutely terrible.

stephenjmcd · 23-03-2020 06:39PM

Italy yesterday
New cases 5560 , deaths 651

Today
New cases 4789, death 602

Yes still awful numbers but 2 days of downward trends is positive.

murpho999 · 23-03-2020 06:39PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

His mother was on Joe Duffy today. Himself and his mother went to the UK last week and attended a party.He has only himself to blame, he is a good example of a dumb asshole.

Bloody hell, tough crowd here.

I doubt it was a week ago. Seeing as it has an incubation period of 7-14 days and he's already got sick and then ended up in ICU and now well enough again to speak then I'd guess it was 2-3 weeks that he went to the UK when there was not as much focus on it then.

Can people not be happy that somebody is making a recovery instead of dying.

Lisha · 23-03-2020 06:39PM

Seamai wrote: »

Just back from a trip to the chemist for long term meds and the supermarket for milk.

Here are a few observations:

Quite a few women wearing surgical gloves thinking it absolves them from any other measures. If any of you ladies out there are worried about your long nails, false or otherwise, just get rid of them, nails harbour all sorts of gick under them.

A conversation while waiting for my prescription between the chemist assistant and a customer.

Customer: I'm looking for something for a cough for a six year old.

Assistant: Dry cough or does he have phlegm?

Customer: Dry

Assistant: How long has he got it?

Customer: About a week.

Assistant (looking concerned) Have you spoken to a doctor?

Customer (nonchalantly) No, should I ?

I had to leave at this point WTF!!!

My local Aldi's only concession to the virus are a few lines on the floor near the checkouts and an open pack of surface wipes inside the entrance door, nothing else. Won't be popping back there any time soon. Just about to bang them off an email

Genuine qt,
If a person has a cough but it’s phlegm producing, is that less likely to be covid19?

I know that’s a how long is a piece of string question but I’m trying to stay sane here..

FVP3 · 23-03-2020 06:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

sorry, I dont understand. If the world continued with this lockdown status for a year, how would it endanger life?

no money, no food.

fritzelly · 23-03-2020 06:40PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.mazechmedia.com/2020/03/one-of-chinas-leading-doctors-warns-of-a-new-large-scale-epidemic-in-the-country/
Worries of a second wave epidemic in China as infected travellers from abroad enter the country Chinese return home

Fixed the post there for ye

wakka12 · 23-03-2020 06:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The average person with Covid-19 infects two other people.. This is not measles where it is 12-18 people. If you get it from a contaminated bag of Skittles on a conveyor, you're just unlucky.

People have this image built up in their heads that it is way more easily transmitted than it is. The main reason it's actually spreading so much is because for the vast majority, it isn't debilitating like influenza is. If it hit as hard as influenza, it wouldn't really be an issue as people with it would be in bed at home.

It can be highly infectious depending on the person who has it. The 'superspreaders' at the French ski resort and german car manufacturer firm at the begining of the epidemic infected over a dozen people each. The R0 is just an average amount of people who might be infected, it is no guarantee, it will differ greatly dependingon the culture and living conditions of the area in question

Rob A. Bank · 23-03-2020 06:41PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.mazechmedia.com/2020/03/one-of-chinas-leading-doctors-warns-of-a-new-large-scale-epidemic-in-the-country/
Worries of a second wave epidemic in China as infected travellers from abroad enter the country

At present, everyone coming from abroad to China is quarantined in a hotel for 14 days... at their own expense. They are carefully monitored and tested for any evidence of Covid-19 before they are allowed out. So a second wave is unlikely.

WhiteMemento9 · 23-03-2020 06:41PM

Critical Care doctor working in a UK high consequence infectious diseases centre doing an

AMA on reddit

"Perhaps our most significant conclusion is that mitigation is unlikely to be feasible without emergency surge capacity limits of the UK and US healthcare systems being exceeded many times over. In the most effective mitigation strategy examined...the surge limits for both general ward and ICU beds would be exceeded by at least 8-fold...In addition, even if all patients were able to be treated, we predict there would still be in the order of 250,000 deaths in GB, and 1.1-1.2 million in the US.

In the UK, this conclusion has only been reached in the last few days, with the refinement of estimates of likely ICU demand due to COVID-19 based on experience in Italy and the UK (previous planning estimates assumed half the demand now estimated)...We therefore conclude that epidemic suppression is the only viable strategy at the current time. The social and economic effects of the measures which are needed to achieve this policy goal will be profound. Many countries have adopted such measures already, but even those countries at an earlier stage of their epidemic (such as the UK) will need to do so imminently."

dougm1970 · 23-03-2020 06:42PM

what time are our figures released ?.....the uk total so far today, is that the full total ?...some days they released wales, scotlsnd, N.I before england.

dashcamdanny · 23-03-2020 06:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It won't go away but all of the people who have had it with either mild or no symptoms won't get it again. It simply won't spread nearly as easily unless another strain which no one has immunity to starts up.

Thanks for your reply.

So really. probably for the next year at least a vaccine will not be ready.

With that in mind , If you are fit , on the right side of 50 years old, dont smoke and have a BMI under 40.
Ye will most likely be grand. And after getting it. and recovering, you could help those older folk without risk.

walshb · 23-03-2020 06:43PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Italy yesterday
New cases 5560 , deaths 651

Today
New cases 4789, death 602

Yes still awful numbers but 2 days of downward trends is positive.

The sad thing here is that they are running out of people to keep the numbers up..it eventually has to go down..

wakka12 · 23-03-2020 06:43PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

At present, everyone coming from abroad to China is quarantined in a hotel for 14 days... at their own expense. They are carefully monitored and tested for any evidence of Covid-19 before they are allowed out. So a second wave is unlikely.

I assume they mean the risk from migrants from border countries who may evade such processes

kilkenny31 · 23-03-2020 06:43PM

The good news is that the Eurozone has agreed to halt the stability pact meaning that the government can borrow again to ensure the economy stays propped up.

DOCARCH · 23-03-2020 06:44PM

Covid-19 now reported in 195 countries/territories in the world. Not many to go!

Maybe North Korea will escape the virus? :rolleyes:

cameramonkey · 23-03-2020 06:44PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Bloody hell, tough crowd here.

I doubt it was a week ago. Seeing as it has an incubation period of 7-14 days and he's already got sick and then ended up in ICU and now well enough again to speak then I'd guess it was 2-3 weeks that he went to the UK when there was not as much focus on it then.

Can people not be happy that somebody is making a recovery instead of dying.

His mother was on Joe today, she said that they got back to Ireland last Monday, one week ago. That means she maybe traveled the week of the schools and colleges shut down in Ireland. I think we all need to take responsibility for our actions. I dont think he was in ICU, she didnt mention that.

IrishStuff09 · 23-03-2020 06:44PM

dougm1970 wrote: »

what time are our figures released ?.....the uk total so far today, is that the full total ?...some days they released wales, scotlsnd, N.I before england.

5:45 ish according to Fergal Bowers. Should be on VM news or RTE News Now

wakka12 · 23-03-2020 06:44PM

dougm1970 wrote: »

what time are our figures released ?.....the uk total so far today, is that the full total ?...some days they released wales, scotlsnd, N.I before england.

They release Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland everyday before England

AlmightyCushion · 23-03-2020 06:44PM

Sittingpretty wrote: »

How did Claire Byrne get tested if her symptoms were those of a head cold?

I thought you have to meet the high temp and dry cough symptoms before you’d be referred for testing?

I have a head cold, so does my husband and two of our children. Not severe and no dry coughs (husband and son have chesty cough) no adverse symptoms except those of a normal head cold. I don’t want to waste already backlogged and pressurised systems in place but should one call GP if household has a head cold?

Some of the symptoms are similar to a cold, some are not. People have this and are showing no symptoms at all. If you are showing symptoms, you should contact your GP and isolate yourselves as if you had Coronavirus.

23-03-2020 06:45PM

wakka12 wrote: »

It can be highly infectious depending on the person who has it. The 'superspreaders' at the French ski resort and german car manufacturer firm at the begining of the epidemic infected over a dozen people each. The R0 is just an average amount of people who might be infected, it is no guarantee, it will differ greatly dependingon the culture and living conditions of the area in question

We'd all be superspreaders if it spread by placing an item on a till.

Yurt2 · 23-03-2020 06:46PM

lillycakes2 wrote: »

cant believe we still have not ordered a travel ban

Flight cancellations will follow travel bans.

Which means that Irish nationals caught in difficult countries will be less likely able to make their way home, as is their right.

And before you say it, I'm not speaking with particular sympathy about dim backpackers who took off to South America in Feb or early March when it was fairly clear that a pandemic was underway.

Do we really want a situation if there is a second explosion in China or lets say Egypt and Irish nationals cant travel home to relative safety?

The government perhaps could have made a stronger statement about the necessity of traveling home before the window on international flights is closing, particularly those Irish based in high-risk or underdeveloped nations. The writing was on the wall since February.

sjb25 · 23-03-2020 06:46PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

Covid-19 now reported in 195 countries/territories in the world. Not many to go!

Maybe North Korea will escape the virus? :rolleyes:

In fairness kim jong un came up with a cure in a day and cured all his people fair play to him

ACitizenErased · 23-03-2020 06:46PM

https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1242145593042112514?s=21

DOCARCH · 23-03-2020 06:47PM

sjb25 wrote: »

In fairness kim jong un came up with a cure in a day and cured all his people fair play to him

No (living) cases? No problem?

snowgal · 23-03-2020 06:48PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Some of the symptoms are similar to a cold, some are not. People have this and are showing no symptoms at all. If you are showing symptoms, you should contact your GP and isolate yourselves as if you had Coronavirus.

In fairness that is a change from the initial release where runny nose, sneezing is rare....very hard to keep up with it all tbh.....

23-03-2020 06:48PM

Yurt! wrote: »

Flight cancellations will follow travel bans.

Which means that Irish nationals caught in difficult countries will be less likely able to make their way home, as is their right.

And before you say it, I'm not speaking with particular sympathy about dim backpackers who took off to South America in late Feb or early March when it was fairly clear that a pandemic was underway.

Do we really want a situation if there is a second explosion in China or lets say Egypt and Irish nationals cant travel home to relative safety?

The government could have made a stronger statement about the necessity of traveling home before the window on international flights is closing, particularly those Irish based in high-risk or underdeveloped nations.

I don't think flying home is a right. If Ireland stopped flights from Vietnam, I wouldn't think anything of it. I'd be happy it was taking serious steps to combat it.

BorneTobyWilde · 23-03-2020 06:48PM

Beanybabog wrote: »

Claire Byrne from RTE tested positive

Oh no, not my baby, oh no, not my sweet baby!!

wakka12 · 23-03-2020 06:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

We'd all be superspreaders if it spread by placing an item on a till.

Yes well if somebody for example picks their nose, or licks their fingers a lot then people will get infected by things that person touches. You said'People have this image built up in their heads that it is way more easily transmitted than it is', well it can be, it has the potential to be, it depends entirely on the actions of the person with the virus. The virus doesnt have a mind of it's own and just stop once it's host has allowed two infections

retro:electro · 23-03-2020 06:50PM

Sittingpretty wrote: »

How did Claire Byrne get tested if her symptoms were those of a head cold?

I thought you have to meet the high temp and dry cough symptoms before you’d be referred for testing?

I have a head cold, so does my husband and two of our children. Not severe and no dry coughs (husband and son have chesty cough) no adverse symptoms except those of a normal head cold. I don’t want to waste already backlogged and pressurised systems in place but should one call GP if household has a head cold?

According to my GP they are testing all levels of symptoms now because it’s only showing as mild cold symptoms in some. I’m being tested later in the week for symptoms I would describe as a cold that I can’t shift for the past week. I haven’t even had a temperature.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP