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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,873 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Great to see decreases in Italy and seemingly France and Germany as well but Netherlands, Portugal and Austria also recorded their highest number of news cases so far in the pandemic today, maybe they are just in a later phase of the process than the bigger countries

    Final figures for France usually around 7pm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    wakka12 wrote: »
    A second day of decreases in Italy, great news

    Let's hope it's the start of a downward trend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Poorside


    Hi. Question.

    So after all this distancing or even lock down. How do we get rid of the virus. Surly it will come back after all these measures are relaxed?

    How can it ever go away?

    This is buying time to find a cure/ vaccine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Hi. Question.

    So after all this distancing or even lock down. How do we get rid of the virus. Surly it will come back after all these measures are relaxed?

    How can it ever go away?

    Big question alright, which nobody has answered. China is seeing some ( small) for now increases as it opens up again. Most are imported from Chinese students coming back from the west, so maybe they can curtail that. If Europe slows down the outbreak, or stops it, would we then restrict air travel as we open up again.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hi. Question.

    So after all this distancing or even lock down. How do we get rid of the virus. Surly it will come back after all these measures are relaxed?

    How can it ever go away?

    It won't go away but all of the people who have had it with either mild or no symptoms won't get it again. It simply won't spread nearly as easily unless another strain which no one has immunity to starts up.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    FVP3 wrote: »
    It is up to Ireland to shut the border from the UK to Donegal. If thats not possible, what else can be done?

    Frankly I'd let cities and towns set up their own road blocks right now.

    too many people from either side of the border, work on either side of the border. Bus routes to and from Dublin pass through the border. Deliveries to and from Dublin / northern ireland all cross the border. It would be very difficult to implement, although Canada have practically closed the border with the US, so youd think it wouldn't be that difficult, on the grand scale of things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,285 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Hi. Question.

    So after all this distancing or even lock down. How do we get rid of the virus. Surly it will come back after all these measures are relaxed?

    How can it ever go away?

    The great hope would be vaccines : keep suppressing and beating down the virus with the expectation a global vaccine becomes available next year. Most people in the world get the vaccine and hopefully that is the end of the pandemic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Italy's numbers down again.

    Cautiously optimistic that they are on the road to recovery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭Morpork


    Do the screens at the tills actually help?
    Surely if someone is infected, they are more likely to be contaminating the items they are placing on the conveyor belt anyway.

    Maybe it's more for a physiological benefit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    That’s interesting that Claire Byrne has it. She seemed fairly sure it was just a head cold last week and sounded bunged up, but said she was going to get tested to be on the safe side. Just goes to show the symptoms are never the same across the board.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Countries that have implemented a global travel ban in response to the COVID-19 pandemic

    750px-COVID-19_Outbreak_World_Map-GlobalTravelBan.svg.png

    Ourselves, the UK, Belarus and a few Balkan states are the only significant ones in Europe who have not started a global travel ban.

    What the hell are we waiting for ?

    Another increase in cases ?

    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭skellig_rocks


    Spain: So far today, +4,321 new cases/+434 additional deaths.
    Originally Posted by DOCARCH
    USA: So far today, +5,825 new cases/+48 additional deaths.
    eagle eye wrote: »
    Stark contrast in the amount dying. Spain's death toll is way higher percentage wise than anywhere. Anybody know why this is?


    May be because more young adults among the confirmed cases in the US.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/19/younger-adults-are-large-percentage-coronavirus-hospitalizations-united-states-according-new-cdc-data/


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,873 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    That’s interesting that Claire Byrne has it. She seemed fairly sure it was just a head cold last week and sounded bunged up, but said she was going to get tested to be on the safe side. Just goes to show the symptoms are never the same across the board.

    She will be back in her shed later to present Claire Byrne Live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Morpork wrote: »
    Do the screens at the tills actually help?
    Surely if someone is infected, they are more likely to be contaminating the items they are placing on the conveyor belt anyway.

    Maybe it's more for a physiological benefit.

    Anything that reduces the risk to staff has to be welcomed. It may not eliminate it but due to the amount of people who cough all over the place it may help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    She will be back in her shed later to present Claire Byrne Live.

    “Shedding” the virus :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,285 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Morpork wrote: »
    Do the screens at the tills actually help?
    Surely if someone is infected, they are more likely to be contaminating the items they are placing on the conveyor belt anyway.

    Maybe it's more for a physiological benefit.

    Definitely very good from the point of view of air particles. If anyone coughs or sneezes in the direction of the checkout operator, it should stop it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Strazdas wrote: »
    The great hope would be vaccines : keep suppressing and beating down the virus with the expectation a global vaccine becomes available next year. Most people in the world get the vaccine and hopefully that is the end of the pandemic.

    Pressing the pause button on life for a year, would be a small sacrifice to make to ensure that this thing be defeated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    too many people from either side of the border, work on either side of the border. Bus routes to and from Dublin pass through the border. Deliveries to and from Dublin / northern ireland all cross the border. It would be very difficult to implement, although Canada have practically closed the border with the US, so youd think it wouldn't be that difficult, on the grand scale of things.
    True, it could well become a smuggler's paradise.

    We trying to break the criminal/smuggler/dissident grip on border areas, not feed it with increased profit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    Boris is addressing the nation later this eve instead of his daily afternoon briefing. I wonder what he has to say apart from same usual stuff every single day.

    Cobra meeting in process.

    "The prime minister is there with senior ministers with the exception of Matt Hancock, who is taking the emergency Coronavirus Bill through the House of Commons.

    "All the signs are that the government is going to announce much tougher measures this evening. It's suggested that plenty of cabinet ministers are urging the prime minister to do this."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.mazechmedia.com/2020/03/one-of-chinas-leading-doctors-warns-of-a-new-large-scale-epidemic-in-the-country/
    Worries of a second wave epidemic in China as infected travellers from abroad enter the country


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    If the government don’t want to bring about a full lock down then could a penalty be brought in whereby if you’re child is out in a group that you’re child benefit is withheld for a period it time.

    The majority of issues around social distancing, from my experience, seem to come from groups of teenagers.
    If it’s groups of adults then just issue them an individual fine.

    These actions are going to increase costs to the exchequer so we should try recoup the money from somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    Pressing the pause button on life for a year, would be a small sacrifice to make to ensure that this thing be defeated.

    Would it though? What is the cost in human life for pausing life for a year? It's not zero.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Definitely very good from the point of view of air particles. If anyone coughs or sneezes in the direction of the checkout operator, it should stop it.


    Went into a petrol station in Ballsbridge today 114.9 for the diesel and they had built a clingfilm booth inside.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Morpork wrote: »
    Do the screens at the tills actually help?
    Surely if someone is infected, they are more likely to be contaminating the items they are placing on the conveyor belt anyway.

    Maybe it's more for a physiological benefit.

    The average person with Covid-19 infects two other people.. This is not measles where it is 12-18 people. If you get it from a contaminated bag of Skittles on a conveyor, you're just unlucky.

    People have this image built up in their heads that it is way more easily transmitted than it is. The main reason it's actually spreading so much is because for the vast majority, it isn't debilitating like influenza is. If it hit as hard as influenza, it wouldn't really be an issue as people with it would be in bed at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,447 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Claire Byrne tests positive!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Stark contrast in the amount dying. Spain's death toll is way higher percentage wise than anywhere. Anybody know why this is?

    Spain is hitting the same phase northern Italy hit a while back where the hospitals can't handle the cases and community testing is abandoned.

    So mild cases aren't being counted as cases and excess deaths are happening due to a shortage of ventilators.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    How did Claire Byrne get tested if her symptoms were those of a head cold?

    I thought you have to meet the high temp and dry cough symptoms before you’d be referred for testing?

    I have a head cold, so does my husband and two of our children. Not severe and no dry coughs (husband and son have chesty cough) no adverse symptoms except those of a normal head cold. I don’t want to waste already backlogged and pressurised systems in place but should one call GP if household has a head cold?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    JMNolan wrote: »
    Would it though? What is the cost in human life for pausing life for a year? It's not zero.

    sorry, I dont understand. If the world continued with this lockdown status for a year, how would it endanger life?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,501 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    JMNolan wrote:
    Would it though? What is the cost in human life for pausing life for a year? It's not zero.
    It's a hell of a lot better than 100 million people dying.


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