CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/coronavirus-afternoon-digest-spain-at-war-hand-sanitiser-and-pints-delivered-in-wexford-stories-you-might-have-missed-39067386.html

Ex-League of Ireland striker Lee Duffy has revealed he was hospitalised for eight days after contracting the Covid-19 virus.

Duffy (28) outlined on his Twitter account how he was unable to breathe without the help of a ventilator.

Any reports in Italy’s figures today, Spain’s as well?

bb12 wrote: »

read a chinese scientific paper written from wuhan where they said the dosage of chloroquine has to be managed very carefully...very easy to overdose on it...think they recommend at most 1g per day taken in 2 doses...as little as 2g can kill you

i don't think they put much quinine in tonic water anymore

A lot of people in tropical countries keep a supply of anti-malarial drugs at home.

ICU beds in Africa are filling up with people who have poisoned themselves with Chloroquine, because they believed the orange cretin in the white house !

Just at a time when ICU beds are needed most.

https://www.legit.ng/1313559-coronavirus-many-nigerians-hospitalisd-chloroquine-poisoning.html

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone got any ideas why Germany's death rate is so low? They have an extremely old population but their death rate seems much lower than the Dutch for example.

another reason on top some already mentioned...

Compare Germany to Italy.

Italy had the misfortune to be totally surprised by the virus outbreak. By the time they realised what was happening and by the time they started testing, the virus was already well established and widely distributed.
With limited amounts of tests available, they only got to test people that arrived into hospital displaying symptoms and unfortunately lots of these tested people subsequently died.

Germany is way behind on that particular curve. They started testing much closer to the beginning of the virus spread in their country meaning their testbase as a whole includes a lot more virus-free people and of the positive tests not all of them are as sick already as the Italians were when they finally got tested.
Depending on how they handle their outbrake from here, death figures may still rise significantly ...let's hope not

Paul Kehoe was on South East Radio earlier asking people who left Dublin etc and headed to their mobile homes in Wexford to go home. It's bad enough being stuck in a house but in a mobile home? Not thanks. How will they control social distancing when the parks are full of kids?

It seems from the Irish Independant that Leo isn't overly concerned about people going to the beach and also he said there are no plans for a lockdown. People calling for a lockdown need to realise that we don't live in the UK Italy or the Northeast USA. We are not all crowded on top of each other. We won't see the kinda figures that the UK will see or Italy have seen.

We can attack this differently to those countries. I was at the beach yesterday. I didn't come within 5m of any other families either did any of those families. I haven't interacted with anyone else except for my family that I live with for 9 days now and don't intend on. But I will go for a spin in my car. I will park up at tourist locations. I will go for a walk but I will maintain social distance. I wont go near public toilets, I wont queue in a shop for ice cream, I wont stop and talk to people. We need common sense which i feel our Taoiseach has because he's a doctor and understands whats risky and whats not. He knows that people at the beach is nowhere near the same as people packed into a pub in temple bar.

We will not become Italy the make-up of our population and our population density will make sure of that. The measures that are already in place in Ireland will be enough to make sure that we don't see exponential growth. I would say we will be closer to 2000 at the end of the month rather than 15000.

If we want to ensure that this remains the case for the long term we need to have common sense and stop the hysteria. If our numbers begin to climb significantly we should then start to look at further measures.

Until then stop over dramatising the 5 pubs in the country that have allowed 4 people in. The other 99.9% of pubs are closed. Stop over dramatising that people are out in phoniex park. They are doing that because they are keeping their distance from their friends and neighbours to pass the time they are taking their family out for a walk whilst maintaining social distance with other families who are doing the same.

People are going to get this illness and yes some people are going to get this because of stupidity but the vast majority of people have common sense. The vast majority of people are adhering to the governments guidelines.

Ireland will win this battle by testing and Identifying close contacts and maintaining the social distancing practices that are already in place.

FVP3 wrote: »

This website is convinced the germans are lying, or fudging the numbers beuase they blame deaths on co-morbidities, based on other people on this website saying so. A marvellous example of circular reasoning.

I think the german figures are low relative to confirmed cases because:

They are doing a lot of tests
They are probably doing a very good job of isolating the old
Excellent health system.

And not testing for COVID-19 in elderly people who die.

Do I know for sure that the Germans are lying/under-reporting........... no, I don't know for sure.

Do I suspect it, hell yes.

Once again, testing doesn't stop people from dying if they have the virus. It only helps identify who has it and therefore helps prevent the spread. Testing has zero effect on whether the virus kills you or not.

Maybe they are doing a good job at isolating the old/vulnerable people.

Their health system was rated behind Italy before this virus became a thing.

kilkenny31 wrote: »

It seems from the Irish Independant that Leo isn't overly concerned about people going to the beach and also he said there are no plans for a lockdown. People calling for a lockdown need to realise that we don't live in the UK Italy or the Northeast USA. We are not all crowded on top of each other. We won't see the kinda figures that the UK will see or Italy have seen.

We can attack this differently to those countries. I was at the beach yesterday. I didn't come within 5m of any other families either did any of those families. I haven't interacted with anyone else except for my family that I live with for 9 days now and don't intend on. But I will go for a spin in my car. I will park up at tourist locations. I will go for a walk but I will maintain social distance. I wont go near public toilets, I wont queue in a shop for ice cream, I wont stop and talk to people. We need common sense which i feel our Taoiseach has because he's a doctor and understands whats risky and whats not. He knows that people at the beach is nowhere near the same as people packed into a pub in temple bar.

We will not become Italy the make-up of our population and our population density will make sure of that. The measures that are already in place in Ireland will be enough to make sure that we don't see exponential growth. I would say we will be closer to 2000 at the end of the month rather than 15000.

If we want to ensure that this remains the case for the long term we need to have common sense and stop the hysteria. If our numbers begin to climb significantly we should then start to look at further measures.

Until then stop over dramatising the 5 pubs in the country that have allowed 4 people in. The other 99.9% of pubs are closed. Stop over dramatising that people are out in phoniex park. They are doing that because they are keeping their distance from their friends and neighbours to pass the time they are taking their family out for a walk whilst maintaining social distance with other families who are doing the same.

People are going to get this illness and yes some people are going to get this because of stupidity but the vast majority of people have common sense. The vast majority of people are adhering to the governments guidelines.

Population density is not an absolutely accurate measure of how fast or widely this disease will spread. Washington state in USA is overall not densely populated and probably similar to Ireland, notoriously low rise sprawling Los Angeles also had a major outbreak, as did several Scandinvaian countries..and Iceland ffs

But still I agree that theoretically people can still enjoy parks and beaches and effectively maintain social distance

WhiteMemento9 wrote:

Does this mean that the stated capcity of around 2000 tests per day actually being processed as positive or negative will still remain the same or is the capcity on that side also been/being increased?

The current capacity to process 2,000 tests a day is hopefully being increased to 4,5000 tests per day this week.

Eventually, it is hoped irish laboratories will be processing 15,000 COVID19 samples a day.

Valhallapt wrote:

Is it possible to get the swabbed backlog tested elsewhere? Does china have spare capacity at this stage, we have aer lingus starting to fly to beijing, can they carry a few thousand of the backlog swabs to china for testing?

That would take even longer.
More Irish hospital labs will be providing the service soon which will help a lot with backlog.


This virus has only been around a few months. Every country is struggling to cope. To set up and provide round the clock testing is a monumental task. We are working at capacity.

People need to understand that these processes dont happen over night or in a few weeks.

People need to be patient until our services can keep up with demand.