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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,721 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Overdosing on the chloroquine.. yes, Nigeria. Dosage.. unknown. Chloroquine antimalarial drug, worldwide usage. Synthetic form of quinine but you know this.
    Overdosed on tonic water... hardly.

    Yeah, I didn't mean overdosing on the Scweppes, unless drowning is an option. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    jamesf85 wrote: »
    If people think that a city like New York is going to shut down until June then they're crazy.

    If they shut down the economy how can they expect to sustain life? Social unrest would be insane, there'd be riots on the streets, and the aftermath would be a complete warzone.

    These measures are to try and stop the spread and minimize it, but it's not possible to continue for months...anyone thinking it is, isn't living in reality.

    What are the choices? Carry on as normal and let the virus loose on the American public? Have thousands upon thousands of deaths?

    Look, it's a sh1t situation but a lockdown works. And if everybody took the pain for a month or two, things would be under control. The problem is that you'll always get people who won't follow the rules and this screws it up for everyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    If, or more likely when, the UK goes into lockdown then so will we.

    With open borders then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    jamesf85 wrote: »
    If people think that a city like New York is going to shut down until June then they're crazy.

    If they shut down the economy how can they expect to sustain life? Social unrest would be insane, there'd be riots on the streets, and the aftermath would be a complete warzone.

    These measures are to try and stop the spread and minimize it, but it's not possible to continue for months...anyone thinking it is, isn't living in reality.

    I don't think you have adjusted to our new reality yet. We have a major global healthcare problem, if we don't adjust our behaviour to that then tens of millions and maybe more will die. Complete shutdowns will be necessary for a while in densely populated places like New York.
    Just look at what's going on in Italy and Spain if you don't understand why this is needed, the economy is going to have to wait. All monetary rules have been thrown out the window by the various major central banks anyway - they realise the global economy has just changed drastically for the foreseeable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Nearly a 50% increase in South Africa today


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭chasm


    Words fail me!

    "The Leader understands up to 80 youngsters had crammed into the property in the centre of town where a 21st birthday party was taking place despite repeated calls from government and HSE chiefs for members of the public to refrain from holding large gatherings.

    It's also believed a small bar had been set up at the back of the house and involved a family that are involved in an ongoing feud in Longford.

    The family, who are well known to gardaí, are also heavily involved in money laundering, drug dealing and violent crime."

    https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home/528325/exclusive-social-distancing-concerns-force-gardai-to-shut-down-longford-house-party-after-80-youngsters-attend-21st-birthday-bash.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    jamesf85 wrote: »
    If people think that a city like New York is going to shut down until June then they're crazy.

    If they shut down the economy how can they expect to sustain life? Social unrest would be insane, there'd be riots on the streets, and the aftermath would be a complete warzone.

    These measures are to try and stop the spread and minimize it, but it's not possible to continue for months...anyone thinking it is, isn't living in reality.

    Lock down means the essentials, food deliveries, pharmacies etc carry on. Not people travelling unnecessarily. Life can be sustained.

    New York is no different to any big city. Yes you risk riots etc. But governments have to choose the lesser of two evils. Wait until the death toll rises in NY..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Good story.
    In an act of international solidarity, Cuba has sent a brigade of more than 50 medics to Italy to help them in their fight against coronavirus.

    The Caribbean island, one of the world’s last remaining communist states, has a long history of sending medical assistance to countries in need.

    According to the Cuban news agency, Prensa Latina, the group arriving in Italy includes 36 doctors, 15 graduate nurses and a logistics specialist. They will work in a field hospital built in Crema, a city of about 34,000 people, located in the province of Cremona, Lombardy, the region hardest hit by the epidemic.

    Prensa Latina quoted the national coordinator of the Cuban Residents in Italy group as saying:



    https://twitter.com/CubaSolidarity/status/1241843897934000129?s=20

    https://www.facebook.com/100026738736081/videos/526936414874312/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    chasm wrote: »
    Words fail me!

    "The Leader understands up to 80 youngsters had crammed into the property in the centre of town where a 21st birthday party was taking place despite repeated calls from government and HSE chiefs for members of the public to refrain from holding large gatherings.

    It's also believed a small bar had been set up at the back of the house and involved a family that are involved in an ongoing feud in Longford.

    The family, who are well known to gardaí, are also heavily involved in money laundering, drug dealing and violent crime."

    https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home/528325/exclusive-social-distancing-concerns-force-gardai-to-shut-down-longford-house-party-after-80-youngsters-attend-21st-birthday-bash.html

    And do people think a lockdown would stop this from happening, quiet the opposite i would think. Illegal parties would e on the rise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    kowloon wrote: »
    Like everything, the few ruin it for the rest of us. Like that gob****e boasting about going to the pub in the earlier versions of the thread.

    That's me. Had a nice 4 pints last night too. Only 6 of us in the pub though, what difference is that to being at home with 6 people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R



    The chipper should have closed as soon as a crowd started to form , common sense works both ways.
    People would not have cued if it was closed.
    The same in glendalock yesterday the committee was advised to close a week ago.
    Funny how the food hall and cafe were open and that they are owned by committee members


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭jamesf85


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    Our reality has completely changed though.

    I understand. And I'd like if we locked down for as long as it takes. But I'm in a position to say that, I still have an income and so does my partner.

    The reality is 50-70% of our workforce are not in that position and their employers aren't in a position to pay them for that length of time with little to no incomings.

    High unemployment means high social welfare and very low taxes being paid. The country can't support our public service if there's no incoming tax and that affects hospitals too. Banks can't sustain it and there are no other countries in a position to help financially either.

    It's unfortunate but if the whole world finds itself in the same position at the same time then there will also be huge food shortages as there won't be any supply.

    This is just Ireland. A city like New York, where most people don't have good access to health care, no real welfare system and a huge reliance on the service industry for jobs, it will turn into a very toxic environment quickly. It simply cannot shut down till June or there will be total anarchy, army presence or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Lock down means the essentials, food deliveries, pharmacies etc carry on. Not people travelling unnecessarily. Life can be sustained.

    New York is no different to any big city. Yes you risk riots etc. But governments have to choose the lesser of two evils. Wait until the death toll rises in NY..

    Yes but do we know which will be the lesser of the two evils yet, is mass rioting, suicides, many deaths worse than the deaths that will come from this virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,922 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Lock down means the essentials, food deliveries, pharmacies etc carry on. Not people travelling unnecessarily. Life can be sustained.

    New York is no different to any big city. Yes you risk riots etc. But governments have to choose the lesser of two evils. Wait until the death toll rises in NY..

    In my experience New Yorkers behind the often gruff exterior are mostly sensible,pragmatic and basically decent.

    If they can get the essentials they will get through this ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    US2 wrote: »
    That's me. Had a nice 4 pints last night too. Only 6 of us in the pub though, what difference is that to being at home with 6 people.

    Are you serious?

    If you are home in your own house with your own family, then no problem.

    If you are going to the pub and there are 5 other people, you are risking spreading it to 5 other families or bringing it home to your own family.

    If you are inviting 5 others from outside of your family into your house for a few drinks, you sir are an idiot.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,196 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    US2 wrote: »
    That's me. Had a nice 4 pints last night too. Only 6 of us in the pub though, what difference is that to being at home with 6 people.

    This is basic shít. The 6 people in your house, you will be spending time in close quarters with them anyway because you live with them. The 6 people you spent time with in the pub are new people for you to spread the virus to, if you have it or for one of them to spread to you, if they have it. The idea is to limit social interactions to prevent it spreading.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,427 ✭✭✭endainoz


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Are you serious?

    If you are home in your own house with your own family, then no problem.

    If you are going to the pub and there are 5 other people, you are risking spreading it to 5 other families or bringing it home to your own family.

    If you are inviting 5 others from outside of your family into your house for a few drinks, you sir are an idiot.

    Please don't feed, ignore and move on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭bb12


    Overdosing on the chloroquine.. yes, Nigeria. Dosage.. unknown. Chloroquine antimalarial drug, worldwide usage. Synthetic form of quinine but you know this.
    Overdosed on tonic water... hardly.

    read a chinese scientific paper written from wuhan where they said the dosage of chloroquine has to be managed very carefully...very easy to overdose on it...think they recommend at most 1g per day taken in 2 doses...as little as 2g can kill you

    i don't think they put much quinine in tonic water anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    endainoz wrote: »
    Please don't feed, ignore and move on

    Yeah, I bit too quickly on that one. :o:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,922 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    US2 wrote: »
    That's me. Had a nice 4 pints last night too. Only 6 of us in the pub though, what difference is that to being at home with 6 people.

    If that is a serious question please get back to us.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    This is basic shít. The 6 people in your house, you will be spending time in close quarters with them anyway because you live with them. The 6 people you spent time with in the pub are new people for you to spread the virus to, if you have it or for one of them to spread to you, if they have it. The idea is to limit social interactions to prevent it spreading.

    It's a pity the retards who put up these posts don't have brain cells that have any chance of replicating as fast as the virus. Anyway, I'll let my wife know who's on the front line of a Dublin hospital that it's all a waste of time and she can come home. There's a retard outbreak as well a a virus outbreak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    The exhausted and bruised faces of Italian health workers caused by prolonged wearing of personal protective equipment.

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    Translation : To you all - Thank you.


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    I posted this last night and I am posting this again because it has come to my attention that some Irish student nurses are scheduled to take to the front line today, without pay !

    They are risking their own lives and the lives of their families... AND NOT BEING PAID !!!

    Absolutely scandalous !

    :mad:


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    chasm wrote: »
    Words fail me!

    "The Leader understands up to 80 youngsters had crammed into the property in the centre of town where a 21st birthday party was taking place despite repeated calls from government and HSE chiefs for members of the public to refrain from holding large gatherings.

    It's also believed a small bar had been set up at the back of the house and involved a family that are involved in an ongoing feud in Longford.

    The family, who are well known to gardaí, are also heavily involved in money laundering, drug dealing and violent crime."

    https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home/528325/exclusive-social-distancing-concerns-force-gardai-to-shut-down-longford-house-party-after-80-youngsters-attend-21st-birthday-bash.html

    I have some choice words that might raise a few hackles, I'll stop at "the law needn't apply to our culture boss".

    Abhorrent behaviour.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone got any ideas why Germany's death rate is so low? They have an extremely old population but their death rate seems much lower than the Dutch for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,277 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I hope most of us take heed of guidelines to stay home as much as you can and avoid other people. We can't go full lockdown here because the police are ineffective for the most part, many have zero respect for them and the abuse they receive is incredible. Imagine trying any crap with Spanish or Italian police, you'd know all about it that's for sure. They even look far more imposing than our lads.
    There was a video on Twitter last night of some kind of street party in Darndale, loads of teenagers etc dancing around. What could the police even do?
    Nevertheless, the more of us who do the right thing the less people are infected over time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Yeah screw them. Imagine not risking a car falling on someone. Cowards
    l knew someone would say that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Anyone got any ideas why Germany's death rate is so low? They have an extremely old population but their death rate seems much lower than the Dutch for example.

    Creative accounting I think it's called.

    If you have cancer and catch COVID-19 and die, the Germans are recording it as a death from cancer. They aren't recording things properly.

    Their figures can't be accurate as their death rate is about 80% less than anywhere else and their medical facilities aren't that much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,153 ✭✭✭Glebee


    US2 wrote: »
    That's me. Had a nice 4 pints last night too. Only 6 of us in the pub though, what difference is that to being at home with 6 people.


    This is going on in every town in Ireland. A back door opens. Anybody who says different is dilusional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Anyone got any ideas why Germany's death rate is so low? They have an extremely old population but their death rate seems much lower than the Dutch for example.

    They miles ahead on testing.

    Test -> Quarantine -> Contact Trace -> Quarantine

    Thats the only system that has worked todate


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Anyone got any ideas why Germany's death rate is so low? They have an extremely old population but their death rate seems much lower than the Dutch for example.

    Maybe the virus is subject to a high degree of mutation? :confused:


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