CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Phoebas · 22-03-2020 01:11PM

pH wrote: »

Which part?

Where is the official announcement we're no longer following Leo's original strategy of 60% infected and 90,000 deaths?

Perhaps you can quote his new figures for total infected and deaths?

That's not the strategy - that's what happens without the strategy.

is_that_so · 22-03-2020 01:11PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

If a distribution issue is affecting people on the frontline from being equipped with PPE there is a shortage issue. They may have loads of stock but if they are not getting to the staff that need them this is an issue.

It doesn’t matter if it’s due to numbers or to distribution - the end result is still the same - some staff do not have them hence there is a shortage. This is happening not particularly to people in hospital but with other care workers coming into contact with people - they don’t have enough PPE

Eh, he said it was being addressed but rock on with the outrage.

Blueshoe · 22-03-2020 01:12PM

MipMap wrote: »

I'm guessing they are saying - we don't have enough Guards, no Army to speak of so enforcing a lockdown is not practical.

We will see in a few years when the documentaries come out

Shutting down all businesses except vital and necessary services does not require the army or Garda. The bill attached to that is just as frightening as the virus and will be here much much longer

It's a realistic type of conversation that could happen. There are people make these type decisions in wartime or during crisis. When morals are replaced with logic. The people who have to make that call are not the common man or woman.

CrabRevolution · 22-03-2020 01:13PM

BluePlanet wrote: »

40,000 people in Ireland waiting to be tested.
Wow

But hey, doing better than the Brits!

Well the UK have "solved" that problem by deliberately not testing the majority of cases.

noodler · 22-03-2020 01:13PM

Phoebas wrote: »

That's not the strategy - that's what happens without the strategy.

How is that not understood?

endainoz · 22-03-2020 01:13PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Do you think in a back room somewhere the taoiseach and all of his advisors have met and someone has said we can't shut down the economy. The virus won't last forever and there will be a much bigger problem afterwards.
Do you think someone might have said letting more people become sick and more dieing is a smaller price in the long run.
The good of many over the few. It's not unheard of and is part of human nature in a way.

I think you have no real input to this forum and have been wrong about most things you have said since the beginning.

Raconteuse · 22-03-2020 01:14PM

noodler wrote: »

Of course there are.

People bare hypochondriaca.

7% of tests have been positive so far.

Can you clarify your second sentence? Genuinely interested. I know predictive texting is a pain in the hole the way it prioritises mistaken words over real words.

otnomart · 22-03-2020 01:14PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

One of the main things that does differ between here and Italy is the median age of those hospitalised. In Italy it's 67, in Ireland so far its 44.

Indeed.
Do we have numbers on comorbidities for these younger patients ?
Were they hit by coronavirus when healthy ?
Or do they have cardiovascular diseases, diabetes ....?

Doctors room ghost · 22-03-2020 01:14PM

Some of the posters on here need to take a long hard look at themselves with some of the boll1xology they are posting.
Any bit of good news or optimism and they are straight in to knock peoples hopes and project their doom and bitterness on others.a cross between a doom merchant and a drama queen in the dna make up and they thriving on it.
The same ones are experts on the health services and practicing social distancing then and it only a new concept.sheep following sheep and they thinking they are the shepherd.afraid to die but afraid to live.
Drama queens the lot of them.do the people of this great country a favour and go outside and go for a walk and get some fresh air in to ye.bring yere tin foil hats along with the other nonsense Ppe crutches ye have adopted with ye if ye want.
Any fcuker sneering at another posters optimism should be removed from the thread and only allowed post in a drama queen, doom merchant,idiotic fool section that none of the rest of us can see.
What a time to be alive

woohoo!!! · 22-03-2020 01:14PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Good idea.
Let’s arm ourselves with a measuring tape.
And social distance the fook outta dis town.

Don't be silly. Use a cattle prod, much more effective.

gozunda · 22-03-2020 01:15PM

pH wrote: »

Which part?

Where is the official announcement we're no longer following Leo's original strategy of 60% infected and 90,000 deaths?

Perhaps you can quote his new figures for total infected and deaths?

It wasnt a 'strategy'. The figures outlined are a worse case scenario if the eejits and gob****es dont cop themselves on ...

is_that_so · 22-03-2020 01:15PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Some of the posters on here need to take a long hard look at themselves with some of the boll1xology they are posting.
Any bit of good news or optimism and they are straight in to knock peoples hopes and project their doom and bitterness on others.a cross between a doom merchant and a drama queen in the dna make up and they thriving on it.
The same ones are experts on the health services and practicing social distancing then and it only a new concept.sheep following sheep and they thinking they are the shepherd.afraid to die but afraid to live.
Drama queens the lot of them.do the people of this great country a favour and go outside and go for a walk and get some fresh air in to ye.bring yere tin foil hats along with the other nonsense Ppe crutches ye have adopted with ye if ye want.
Any fcuker sneering at another posters optimism should be removed from the thread and only allowed post in a drama queen, doom merchant,idiotic fool section that none of the rest of us can see.
What a time to be alive

I bet that felt sooo good!:D

noodler · 22-03-2020 01:15PM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Can you clarify your second sentence? Genuinely interested. I know predictive texting is a pain in the hole the way it prioritises mistaken words over real words.

Certainly and apologies.

People are hypochondriacs

Lillyfae · 22-03-2020 01:16PM

Raconteuse wrote: »

That poster was saying Irish people are really dirty and "Ireland is kill". Self loathing shyte.

I didn’t put too much thought into that tbh, so many posts here look a bit dyslexic I thought it was just another one

beolight · 22-03-2020 01:16PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

If a distribution issue is affecting people on the frontline from being equipped with PPE there is a shortage issue. They may have loads of stock but if they are not getting to the staff that need them this is an issue.

It doesn’t matter if it’s due to numbers or to distribution - the end result is still the same - some staff do not have them hence there is a shortage. This is happening not particularly to people in hospital but with other care workers coming into contact with people - they don’t have enough PPE

HSE have a responsibility to ensure that all care workers/Garda/volunteers etc coming into contact with elderly/ vulnerable from now on are equipped with PPE and that masks should be handed out to this eldery/vulnerable also to wear when they have to interact with health care works/ guards/ volunteers

Will this be the case?

If your checking on neighbours please wear a mask or scarf if you don’t have one

Seen a video from Spain of communities making their own mask and distributing them to elderly/ vulnerable

Sir Oxman · 22-03-2020 01:16PM

Varadkar playing failed election politics?
If true, this is the sign of an a*sehole, not a leader.
(Most of it is behind paywall)
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/varadkar-open-to-unity-government-without-sf-39064647.html

endainoz · 22-03-2020 01:17PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Some of the posters on here need to take a long hard look at themselves with some of the boll1xology they are posting.
Any bit of good news or optimism and they are straight in to knock peoples hopes and project their doom and bitterness on others.a cross between a doom merchant and a drama queen in the dna make up and they thriving on it.
The same ones are experts on the health services and practicing social distancing then and it only a new concept.sheep following sheep and they thinking they are the shepherd.afraid to die but afraid to live.
Drama queens the lot of them.do the people of this great country a favour and go outside and go for a walk and get some fresh air in to ye.bring yere tin foil hats along with the other nonsense Ppe crutches ye have adopted with ye if ye want.
Any fcuker sneering at another posters optimism should be removed from the thread and only allowed post in a drama queen, doom merchant,idiotic fool section that none of the rest of us can see.
What a time to be alive

Your the total opposite though, borderline complete denial. Common ground needs to be found, no point ignoring warnings and goading people who dont agree with you.

Raconteuse · 22-03-2020 01:17PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

They are not Latin. We have a pub culture.

This whole we are so different bull**** needs to stop. We are not.

I'm certainly not in denial - I'm furious at those in denial and those not practising the guidelines - but I think differing societies and environments can make some difference.

wakka12 · 22-03-2020 01:17PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Former Real Madrid president Lorenzo Sanz has died of Corona virus

I'm beginning to think there's something in the Latin gene pool, the death rate in Italy and Spain just doesn't stack up against most of the rest of the world, even the Chinese weren't hit like this were the case must have been in the 100's of 1000's

Funny I remember back in January people saying it was something about Asian race that was making them die/catch it in such large number, people even posting erroneous studies claiming the virus would have no effect on white people...
Much more likely right now is the Chinese figures are complete bull****. Very likely that deaths of patients with other comorbidities were listed as the COD instead of COVID 19, as the Chinese do with common flu. Now all the severe Chinese measures make complete sense, martial law, sealing people into their homes, halting the entire economy for months. You really think it's possible at all that more people have died in one Italian province in a few days than all of China in a 3 month epidemic?

Blueshoe · 22-03-2020 01:17PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Some of the posters on here need to take a long hard look at themselves with some of the boll1xology they are posting.
Any bit of good news or optimism and they are straight in to knock peoples hopes and project their doom and bitterness on others.a cross between a doom merchant and a drama queen in the dna make up and they thriving on it.
The same ones are experts on the health services and practicing social distancing then and it only a new concept.sheep following sheep and they thinking they are the shepherd.afraid to die but afraid to live.
Drama queens the lot of them.do the people of this great country a favour and go outside and go for a walk and get some fresh air in to ye.bring yere tin foil hats along with the other nonsense Ppe crutches ye have adopted with ye if ye want.
Any fcuker sneering at another posters optimism should be removed from the thread and only allowed post in a drama queen, doom merchant,idiotic fool section that none of the rest of us can see.
What a time to be alive

Feel free to post in the good times happy sunshine hug thread if you don't want to hear opinions different than your own.

is_that_so · 22-03-2020 01:17PM

https://twitter.com/Alhobishy/status/1241703892452347906

gozunda · 22-03-2020 01:18PM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Varadkar playing failed election politics?
If true, this is the sign of an a*sehole, not a leader.
(Most of it is behind paywall)
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/varadkar-open-to-unity-government-without-sf-39064647.html

A sign of someone with a serious amount of common sense to be fair ...

take everything · 22-03-2020 01:18PM

Very tense in this thread.
We need a distraction.

I'll make the sound of a barnyard animal and you all try to guess what it is?

cloudatlas · 22-03-2020 01:18PM

fits wrote: »

It’s a personal account from a doctor.

That isn't written as well as the account by the Italian surgeon and also contains images of hospitals in Italy not U.K. hospitals. Daily mail is not a good news source, never has been, never will be.

Sir Oxman · 22-03-2020 01:19PM

Coveney on Radio 1 saying they will come up with better schemes next week to help those who have lost jobs.
UK's announcement has kicked them up the arse I think.

22-03-2020 01:19PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Do you think someone might have said letting more people become sick and more dieing is a smaller price in the long run.
The good of many over the few. It's not unheard of and is part of human nature in a way.

You're a nasty piece of work. Some of us value elderly and vulnerable loved ones.

john_doe. · 22-03-2020 01:19PM

https://www.propublica.org/article/a-medical-worker-describes--terrifying-lung-failure-from-covid19-even-in-his-young-patients?utm_campaign=publishtweet&utm_source=social&utm_medium=twitter&fbclid=IwAR0PWKVN76lzCSsT8TxxWTaHVKAkqdNs5phyt8MtNT2BotMnC4qX-ojZdbA#179875

This is awful !

Naggdefy · 22-03-2020 01:19PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Nobody has the right to tell anybody to do anything. She could have asked politely. Nobody is entitled to respect because of their age, earn it like everyone else.

How does an elderly person earn respect during a brief encounter with a tool in a supermarket?

endainoz · 22-03-2020 01:19PM

take everything wrote: »

Very tense in this thread.
We need a distraction.

I'll make the sound of a barnyard animal and you all try to guess what it is?

Baby ox

Achasanai · 22-03-2020 01:19PM

pH wrote: »

Go listen to Varadkar's speech on the 9th March- expects 60% of the population infected, 3% fatality rate. That's the 'herd immunity' approach, here in Ireland announced by Leo.

Strangely though, even though the UK have officially changed their policy based on the Imperial College report of the 16th March, there has been no official announcement that we have done the same.

In fact many of the day to day announcements would suggest Ireland is currently following the 'herd immunity'/mitigation/'flatten the curve' approach.

My understanding is that the herd immunity is not the same as flattening the curve. Any of the charts I've seen regarding herd immunity is that you get an explosion of the curve initially but the payoff is that the disease dies down sooner after that.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP