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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #9302
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    People have every right to tell others to keep a proper distance and they should not be forced to move because of the delinquency of others.

    Nobody has the right to tell anybody to do anything. She could have asked politely. Nobody is entitled to respect because of their age, earn it like everyone else.


  • #9303
    citysights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    People just need to hear the advise and we'll drastically limit the spread. Standing too close behind someone is no adhering to the social distancing that's been drilled into us. Old people will bear the brunt of this and there's a certain arrogance from younger people that there somehow immune, which seems to have come across in this particular confrontation. Young people will also spread this e ponwnrialky unless they cop the fcuk on. What happened to just respecting older people, virus or not?

    Have they no markings on the supermarket floor? I was in Tesco a few days ago very clear markings before till and after till when packing shopping. Security guard telling me exactly where to stand and doing same for everyone. Very well done, I pity that old person we are being told to socially distance so why isn’t everyone adhering??? Pure ignorance..


  • #9304
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,704 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Nermal wrote: »
    Widespread random testing in Iceland puts the number at 50%.

    https://cleantechnica.com/2020/03/21/iceland-is-doing-science-50-of-people-with-covid-19-not-showing-symptoms-50-have-very-moderate-cold-symptoms/amp/

    And that’s 50% of those who currently have it. We’ve to wait for an antibody test to find those who had it and didn’t know. That 50% is a lower bound and will move higher.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832/


  • #9305
    SteelyDanJalapeno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,390 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    is_that_so wrote: »
    That 15000 is an unmitigated total projection based on the model they are using not an actual number. As they get more data it will change, hopefully downwards.

    Yeah I understand that, but being realistic we were never gonna test 250k by the end of the month, so he probably gave a number that we knew we would never get too so they can spin a positive story from this at the end of the month, which I have no problem with


  • #9306
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Up to 20% who get the virus will have no symptoms (but can pass it to others same as people who have symptoms).

    The poster quoted 80%, I should have put that figure in my post.


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  • #9307
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »
    Yeah I understand that, but being realistic we were never gonna test 250k by the end of the month, so he probably gave a number that we knew we would never get too so they can spin a positive story from this at the end of the month, which I have no problem with

    Yeah, hopefully the opposite of a self-fulling prophecy. Throw that number out there to scare people into changing their behaviour so hopefully it won't get that bad.


  • #9308
    cosanostra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1241681019188719617?s=20


  • #9309
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    First figures for the day for Spain. +3,076 cases. Expect that to be a lot bigger by the end of the day.


  • #9310
    angeldelight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    There are people infected with the virus who are asymptomatic so wouldn’t know they have it but can spread it to others. One celebrity example is Idris Elba


  • #9311
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    cosanostra wrote: »
    I think people need to realise that there is currently 15k with the virus here and possibly 10 times that, the numbers waiting to be tested are massive, the numbers with no symptoms are massive and the number of people who have a slightly soar throat but aren't reporting it are massive.
    FB and other social media had people self-diagnosing for a bit over something and these types of speculative numbers can send people into a tailspin. From a medical perspective it doesn't matter how many seem to be infected , just the ones who really need attention. The virus outbreak will subside and we'll be armed with lot more data about how it might spread.


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  • #9312
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    PokeHerKing wrote: »
    The poster quoted 80%, I should have put that figure in my post.

    Varadker said vast majority will be at worst a mild illness.


  • #9313
    leavingirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭leavingirl


    cosanostra wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1241681019188719617?s=20

    Fergal Bowers. He is some journalist


  • #9314
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Nobody has the right to tell anybody to do anything. She could have asked politely. Nobody is entitled to respect because of their age, earn it like everyone else.

    Yep. That’s the spirit!

    OR

    Maybe he could have gone with she is probably nervous and afraid and acting out of very real genuine fear for her life and he could have stayed the f back.

    Honestly the fcuking entitlement.


  • #9315
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    blackcard wrote: »
    Wales, a similar size country to us, has had 5 more deaths, bringing their total to 12

    The population of Wales is only 3.1 million.


  • #9316
    tromtipp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tromtipp


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    Mild doesn't mean staying in bed. Mild symptoms doesn't mean you will be off your feet for a few days even.


    Mild in the context of this disease simply means not in need of hospitalisation. It might mean days or even longer in bed. More time again having to rest. Certainly 14 days in isolation. Potential long term complications.



    It can effect young people, and for men the at-risk age starts at 50.


    We all have to co-operate to keep each other safe.


  • #9317
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    What's the HSE briefing for?


  • #9318
    beolight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭beolight


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Who is most likely to be at risk of dying should they contract it?
    Legend me hole.

    Question that needs to be asked why was the older person in the shop in the first place?

    Tesco Dunne’s SuperValu Lidl Aldi etc all need to ramp up their delivery service (or be instructed by HSE to do do )its almost impossible to book delivery slots with Tesco now

    The local shop that has all but been wiped out by retail parks and the multiples needs to come back in some disguise to act as a ground zero contact point
    Communities/ neighbours etc need to start organising all elderly and vulnerable people need to be contacted and told stay at home and given a contact number to arrange any essential deliveries
    The shopping lists for the elderly and vulnerable need to be collected and then to coordinate with the Supermarkets for one drop off point for multiple deliveries and local volunteers to drop off at their doorsteps. Everybody interacting with them needs to be masked and gloved
    Same with medicines


  • #9319
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    Varadker said vast majority will be at worst a mild illness.

    I've no idea what Vradkars definition of mild illness is. But it's still a far cry from what you said. Which was 80% of people won't notice they have it.


  • #9320
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    According to Brendan O'Connor show, Wicklow County Council are closing car parks (and food outlets) at Glendalough due to 'social distancing issues'.


  • #9321
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    Yep. That’s the spirit!

    OR

    Maybe he could have gone with she is probably nervous and afraid and acting out of very real genuine fear for her life and he could have stayed the f back.

    Honestly the fcuking entitlement.
    We are entitled to feelings just not the right to act out on them! Remember if you are out you too are a risk to others. I think people need to apply some common sense to "calling others out".


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  • #9322
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Yeah, hopefully the opposite of a self-fulling prophecy. Throw that number out there to scare people into changing their behaviour so hopefully it won't get that bad.

    Or... thats the number they expect in the general population not the tested population.

    If so it is not that high. It's the potential "surge" after that which was worrying. Hopefully we have averted that.


  • #9323
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    tromtipp wrote: »
    Mild in the context of this disease simply means not in need of hospitalisation. It might mean days or even longer in bed. More time again having to rest. Certainly 14 days in isolation. Potential long term complications.



    It can effect young people, and for men the at-risk age starts at 50.


    We all have to co-operate to keep each other safe.

    It also might not mean any time in bed. The Irish Mirror has on its website a photo with armed police and a headline about Ireland getting closer to lockdown. Such fear mongering is unhelpful and is part of the information which notes number of cases and deaths while ignoring recoveries. As you have said, cooperate together to keep each other safe, social distancing and good hygiene are essential and should be our focus.


  • #9324
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    is_that_so wrote: »
    We are entitled to feelings just not the right to act out on them! Remember if you are out you too are a risk to others. I think people need to apply some common sense to "calling others out".

    He was obviously more of a risk to her, if she was older as reported.

    And what does not having the "right to act out on them" mean, that she should say nothing?

    Whole thing is probably a fantasy anyway.


  • #9325
    EmptyTree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭EmptyTree


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    Mild doesn't mean staying in bed. Mild symptoms doesn't mean you will be off your feet for a few days even. If you call and "reported" mild symptoms, a box is ticked for a person reporting mild symptoms but there is no scale within that box. 80% will barely notice it, those that do notice it and those that have been reported as being hospitalised for it, are starting to recover. Any new reported cases needs to be seen in this context.
    Assetbacked wrote: »
    Varadker said vast majority will be at worst a mild illness.

    Mild symptoms and asymptomatic are very different things.


  • #9326
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    is_that_so wrote: »
    We are entitled to feelings just not the right to act out on them! Remember if you are out you too are a risk to others. I think people need to apply some common sense to "calling others out".

    Honestly. I can’t comprehend the mentality that would either do what he did or defend it.

    I have young sons and I’d be so disappointed in them and myself for raising them if I thought they’d behave like this to anyone under today’s circumstances.


  • #9327
    cosanostra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    So the new test sites havnt come on board yet


  • #9328
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Almost 40 deaths in Indonesia and just 450 confirmed cases, likely a huge number going undetected in that country.


  • #9329
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    murpho999 wrote: »
    The Dutch are making a mess of this.

    Very complacent attitude about everything over there.


    "The Dutch government issued an NL-Alert with an “extreme warning” status on Sunday at 11:30 a.m., ordering people to keep a distance of 1.5 meters from each other, and to stay home if they have even a slight cold. The warning was sent to mobile phones around the country, with growing reports of thousands of people flocking to popular good-weather areas like the North Sea coast, wilderness paths, and nature areas."
    https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/22/nl-alert-urgently-warns-people-stay-home-crowds-flock-popular-areas
    "The country normally has 1,150 ICU beds, roughly 6.61 per 100,000 residents, of which half are normally used in emergencies, and 225 are used for elective care, including scheduled surgeries. Hospitals have suspended planned care to free up as many beds as possible, while Health Minister Hugo de Jonge says another 350 ICU space are able to be quickly made available."


  • #9330
    beolight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭beolight


    https://twitter.com/mjinko_ie/status/1241475275193552898?s=20


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  • #9331
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    According to Brendan O'Connor show, Wicklow County Council are closing car parks (and food outlets) at Glendalough due to 'social distancing issues'.

    I had an argument with a person about this ,state funded state owned and a tourist attraction.
    It should have been shot a week ago.
    You can't blame people going , the management of it were Prue greedy on this .
    I'm from Wicklow originally and know a person on the committee who look after it, they made a conscious decision to keep the area open.
    They will now try and blame the local authorities.


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