CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

blackcard · 20-03-2020 09:11PM

So you hear on the News that the government is encouraging people, especially young people, to carry out 'social distancing'. I am not sure that 'social distancing' is a cool enough or trendy enough expression so I think we should come up with something better.
#stayawayfromme
#bodyspacing
Or my favourite
#mindthegap
I could imagine that trending

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 09:11PM

A woman in Algeria has died today, her brother also died of coronavirus on Monday.

10000maniacs · 20-03-2020 09:14PM

I remember people here a few weeks ago saying it's being blown out of all proportion, and defending people going to Cheltenham.
But people in Italy are dying at the rate one every two minutes. There is too much complacency here. When people start dying here in Ireland at the rate of one a minute, will it make a blind bit of difference?

Quantum Erasure · 20-03-2020 09:15PM

Nermal wrote: »

https://truepundit.com/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-severely-overreacting-to-coronavirus/

In an analysis published Tuesday, Stanford’s John P.A. Ioannidis — co-director of the university’s Meta-Research Innovation Center and professor of medicine, biomedical data science, statistics, and epidemiology and population health — suggests that the response to the coronavirus pandemic may be “a fiasco in the making” because we are making seismic decisions based on “utterly unreliable” data. The data we do have, Ioannidis explains, indicates that we are likely severely overreacting.
...
Due to extremely limited testing, we are likely missing “the vast majority of infections” from COVID-19, he states, thus making reported fatality rates from the World Health Organization “meaningless.”

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/cmmm/2012/978901/

Table 1 shows the coverage probability of the CFR for each set of parameters. When estimating the CFR based on early epidemic data, the exponential growth rate appears to play a critical role in determining reliability. To attain the coverage probability greater than 90% with r=0.05, 0.15, and 0.25 per day, respectively, the latest times of observation, T, should be at least 80, 40, and 30 days with the reference CFR value of 0.5%. This indicates that the smaller the transmission potential is, the longer the time it would take to obtain a reproducible estimate of the CFR. Of course, the coverage probability converges to 95% with longer observation times. Given a larger CFR, the coverage probability converges earlier due to smaller sampling errors. However, the coverage probability appears to be more sensitive to variation in r than that in the CFR value.

PokeHerKing · 20-03-2020 09:15PM

Nermal wrote: »

https://truepundit.com/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-severely-overreacting-to-coronavirus/

In an analysis published Tuesday, Stanford’s John P.A. Ioannidis — co-director of the university’s Meta-Research Innovation Center and professor of medicine, biomedical data science, statistics, and epidemiology and population health — suggests that the response to the coronavirus pandemic may be “a fiasco in the making” because we are making seismic decisions based on “utterly unreliable” data. The data we do have, Ioannidis explains, indicates that we are likely severely overreacting.
...
Due to extremely limited testing, we are likely missing “the vast majority of infections” from COVID-19, he states, thus making reported fatality rates from the World Health Organization “meaningless.”

How is the collapse of one of Europes top tier health services unreliable data? If there is 10 times more cases than being reported and the mortality rate is closer to sub 1%, what difference does it make if that 1% still completely saturates health services the world over?

patnor1011 · 20-03-2020 09:15PM

GiftofGab wrote: »

Do you think it's ok to visit a friend tonight? I told her it's not safe but she wants to see me and wants to chance it. Have been staying in on my own all week. Have a family member showing symptoms which I told her about.

Sure, go ahead. It is called natural selection.
Or you may do her and everyone else favor and see her through whattsap.

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 09:15PM

10000maniacs wrote: »

I remember people here a few weeks ago saying it's being blown out of all proportion, and defending people going to Cheltenham.
But people in Italy are dying at the rate one every two minutes. There is too much complacincy here. When people start dying here in Ireland at the rate of one a minute, will it make a blind bit of difference?

It mainly affects older and sick people, so there will always be complacency. If this was SARS nobody would be out working in shops, nobody would be able to staff any shops, because nobody would put themselves at that risk unnecessarily

Rockbeast2 · 20-03-2020 09:15PM

Let's start a Boards vigilante group to protect the streets.

If we see a teenager wiping their nose with their hand...

WE ATTACK

If we see two teenagers standing in close proximity...

WE ATTACK

If we hear a teenager sniffle or cough out on the street...

WE ATTACK

There's a nation that needs to be protected here.

Who's with me?

Daz_ · 20-03-2020 09:15PM

Heard a large hotel in Dublin going to be used by HSE from next week.

cj maxx · 20-03-2020 09:16PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Asked to close which is not the same thing.

They're not being'asked' any more!

cj maxx · 20-03-2020 09:16PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Asked to close which is not the same thing.

They're not being'asked' any more!

jam_mac_jam · 20-03-2020 09:17PM

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

Let's start a Boards vigilante group to protect the streets.

If we see a teenager wiping their nose with their hand...

WE ATTACK

If we see two teenagers standing in close proximity...

WE ATTACK

If we hear a teenager sniffle or cough out on the street...

WE ATTACK

There's a nation that needs to be protected here.

Who's with me?

Obviously only if they are working class.

Duke of Url · 20-03-2020 09:17PM

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

Let's start a Boards vigilante group to protect the streets.

If we see a teenager wiping their nose with their hand...

WE ATTACK

If we see two teenagers standing in close proximity...

WE ATTACK

If we hear a teenager sniffle or cough out on the street...

WE ATTACK

There's a nation that needs to be protected here.

Who's with me?

Sign me up

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 09:17PM

Nermal wrote: »

https://truepundit.com/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-severely-overreacting-to-coronavirus/

In an analysis published Tuesday, Stanford’s John P.A. Ioannidis — co-director of the university’s Meta-Research Innovation Center and professor of medicine, biomedical data science, statistics, and epidemiology and population health — suggests that the response to the coronavirus pandemic may be “a fiasco in the making” because we are making seismic decisions based on “utterly unreliable” data. The data we do have, Ioannidis explains, indicates that we are likely severely overreacting.
...
Due to extremely limited testing, we are likely missing “the vast majority of infections” from COVID-19, he states, thus making reported fatality rates from the World Health Organization “meaningless.”

Nah this is just not true. A ninth passenger on the cruise died today, that is about 1.2% mortality rate and is by far the closest sample we have to any true mortality rate. When have nine passengers ever died on a cruise because of say a flu outbreak..? Never..nobody is over reacting to this, it is getting the reaction it that is needed

Mervyn Skidmore · 20-03-2020 09:18PM

wakka12 wrote: »

A woman in Algeria has died today, her brother also died of coronavirus on Monday.

Awful. I think there's a family in the USA where 4 members have died from the coronavirus.

maxpowers · 20-03-2020 09:18PM

Nermal wrote: »

https://truepundit.com/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-severely-overreacting-to-coronavirus/

In an analysis published Tuesday, Stanford’s John P.A. Ioannidis — co-director of the university’s Meta-Research Innovation Center and professor of medicine, biomedical data science, statistics, and epidemiology and population health — suggests that the response to the coronavirus pandemic may be “a fiasco in the making” because we are making seismic decisions based on “utterly unreliable” data. The data we do have, Ioannidis explains, indicates that we are likely severely overreacting.
...
Due to extremely limited testing, we are likely missing “the vast majority of infections” from COVID-19, he states, thus making reported fatality rates from the World Health Organization “meaningless.”

The true mortality rate will be very low. The mortality rate figures are very misleading.

bilston · 20-03-2020 09:18PM

wakka12 wrote: »

A woman in Algeria has died today, her brother also died of coronavirus on Monday.

Africa has to be a concern.

It's bad in Europe...and will get worse before.it hopefully gets better...but if this virus rips through Africa then they are in for a very tough time. And it will be worse for them because the developed world will be in a poor position to help them.

patnor1011 · 20-03-2020 09:18PM

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

Let's start a Boards vigilante group to protect the streets.

If we see a teenager wiping their nose with their hand...

WE ATTACK

If we see two teenagers standing in close proximity...

WE ATTACK

If we hear a teenager sniffle or cough out on the street...

WE ATTACK

There's a nation that needs to be protected here.

Who's with me?

I may consider it. If by attack you mean something like sniping from distance. I am too old for golf bat scenario.:D

fritzelly · 20-03-2020 09:18PM

Turtwig wrote: »

Don't know the age but the CMO did confirm two days in a row now. No reports of underlying conditions.

So yer wan on Twitter was full of BS

Plumbthedepths · 20-03-2020 09:18PM

jackboy wrote: »

Simon Coveney now encouraging us to confront young people in housing estates and street corners.

Best of luck with that, I assume Simon doesn't live in an estate?

gabeeg · 20-03-2020 09:20PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Nah this is just not true. A ninth passenger on the cruise died today, that is about 1.2% mortality rate and is by far the closest sample we have to any true mortality rate

Yeah. And what if a number of them die over the next few years due to being impaired by covid? How do you measure that?

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 09:20PM

maxpowers wrote: »

The true mortality rate will be very low. The mortality rate figures are very misleading.

1% under ideal hospital conditions, the cruise ship and South Korea
Far higher when health systems collapse, Italy, Hubei, Iran, Spain...soon to be UK Netherlands Belgium Switzerland USA

beolight · 20-03-2020 09:20PM

Shelly66 wrote: »

Unfortunately it’s not lockdown and whilst people have lost their jobs to limit social interaction this is not going to stop till we are ordered to stay home . Needs to happen sooner rather than later .

Agreed drove into Gullivers Retail Park Santry today car park was full people walking up in groups to the drive thru window ,construction workers having lunch everywhere in groups of 3 or 4 , teenage gangs wandering aimlessly around, kids on bikes zig zagging between people

I didn’t bother getting out of car to see what Lidl was like can only guess just left

walshb · 20-03-2020 09:20PM

patnor1011 wrote: »

So are all of the pubs. If you cant enjoy life without need of drinking alcohol for couple of days then good luck to you.

I agree... pubs should be closed

And most shops that don’t sell food as a necessity or requirement...

Take Avoca....still open....

What Username Guidelines · 20-03-2020 09:20PM

What’s the story with the 1.3x per day line this follows? If social distancing doesn’t actually work, and we do hit the estimated 15,000 cases by March 31st... if it keeps going beyond that it hits the entire population three weeks later, i.e. five weeks from now. Have I got my maths very wrong?

Blueshoe · 20-03-2020 09:21PM

Is it true that the government are contacting teachers to try and hire them to carry out contract tracing and general admin?
This is to be a paid role. Even though they are already being paid as it is.

JP Liz V1 · 20-03-2020 09:21PM

jackboy wrote: »

Simon Coveney now encouraging us to confront young people in housing estates and street corners.

That could be worse than the virus for some of us

Seamai · 20-03-2020 09:21PM

ziggyman17 wrote: »

when are the Chinese going to called out on this.........Their eating habits need to be looked at........The World is going to **** because of their disgusting eating habits..............

Not just what they eat, there was a video clip posted earlier on thread that looked at those markets and restaurants but also hygiene in general.
There was a warning on the post, wish I had heeded it, stomach churning it was, public toilets that looked spotless from outside but were filthy open cesspits swarming with flies.
If you were looking for the perfect breeding ground, look no further.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 09:22PM

gabeeg wrote: »

Yeah. And what if a number of them die over the next few years due to being impaired by covid? How do you measure that?

Then they'll die of whatever those conditions are and that's what will be measured.

Ralphyroo · 20-03-2020 09:22PM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Perhaps Meath ones are less crowded being in smaller towns?

The ones in donegal were closed last Saturday

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP