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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #6002
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Any more info on asymptotic cases? I read about the group of 7 skiers from arklow, all recovered and never showed symptoms throughout. My minds been going down the doom route very fast this week and this stuff helps. A lot.

    Mass testing in Iceland revealed half the people who test positive were asymptomatic.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/coronavirus-testing-iceland


  • #6003
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    threeball wrote: »
    I fail to see how this is sustainable in the long run. Does the country self isolate for two years. No flights or ferries

    Everyone entering must stay 2 weeks in a government quarantine hotel room


  • #6004
    paddythere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    from_atozinc wrote: »
    Poor kid me hole. Was probably pre planned. “Here Domo, ill push you in to your man, righ’”
    Na, its never pre planned. Me and my mates used to do a fair bit of it back in the day and it was mainly a joke on the person getting pushed rather than the stranger


  • #6005
    Shelly66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Shelly66


    Mollycam wrote: »
    Have u been called yet ?

    I had a bad dose for 2 weeks 2 antibiotics and steroids breathless too no temp. Criteria changed for testing the day after my visit to gp. Gp not worrying rang me Tuesday paddy’s day I was fine , got sniffles again but not panicking


  • #6006
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    threeball wrote: »
    I fail to see how this is sustainable in the long run. Does the country self isolate for two years. No flights or ferries
    I think it's an example of the most extreme approach. Everyone should be learning what to do from S Korea and Singapore and learning what not to do in the case of Italy, Spain and Britain.


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  • #6007
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    BKtje wrote: »
    With regards to face masks (im no expert by the way, just what I've understood from reading up on it):

    Medical professionals wear them because they are CONSTANTLY surrounded by sick people (Covid 19 or other) and want to avoid compromising their immune systems and/or getting covid 19 (surgeons wear them to protect their patients). Higher doses of the virus (airborne) are more dangerous as was seen with the healthy frontline staff in china.

    Your average joe soap on the street does not need a face mask as the chances of catching it from walking by someone is minimal though of course they do offer some protection. The face mask joe Soap is wearing may be needed by a frontline staff at some point whose exposure is 100's or 1000's of times more than theirs. If ever there is a chronic shortage of face masks, having purchased and or worn one needlessly may actually have worsened the problem and , in extreme worst case scenarios, mean that if you ever do get sick there are fewer medical staff available as they fell ill due to lack of protection.

    Basically it's not that they don't protect you, it's just that the main vector for transmission in areas where there is little airborne particles is by touching a contaminated surface and then touching your face and are thus not really needed. It's a numbers game.

    Why sick people should wear masks I believe no one is debating?

    Once more this is just what I have understood from reading up on it and I am happy to be corrected but it makes sense.

    That's assuming everyone who wears a mask touches their face and that they are are wearing the paper or low grade ones. What about people who wear the proper ones with the seal and disposable gloves.
    Many joe soap have autoimmune disorders, heath problems and up in the upper age bracket and therefore at higher risk of complications if they get the virus. So if they wear proper masks etc are the not doing everyone a favour by protecting themselves by keeping themselves out of hospitals for as long as possible.
    People have to go out to the shops for essentials they cannot guarantee someone hasn't shed the virus onto some surface, you even said it there is a low risk but there is still a risk.

    If people are in that high risk category let them wear masks even if they are the low grade ones. Enough people worried as it and and even if a piece of paper gives them a bit of comfort let it.

    What would help more for front line staff would be practice social distancing, stay indoors while waiting for results, cover when coughing and stop bulk buying.


  • #6008
    Mollycam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 ✭Mollycam


    Friend of mine waiting since Wed am in Meath. Those on list since Mon been called today & tomorrow. 5 days at least....


  • #6009
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    paddythere wrote: »
    Na, its never pre planned. Me and my mates used to do a fair bit of it back in the day and it was mainly a joke on the person getting pushed rather than the stranger

    Well he can blame his mates for him receiving a dig.


  • #6010
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,611 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    No they wouldn't. Did you watch the briefing? He said giving the age info may identify the person.
    giving the age could easily identify that case that was live tweeted
    niallo27 wrote: »
    How the hell could it have had, the person was between 30-39, jesus that must have been your man johnny, he is between 30 and 39.

    source??


  • #6011
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    GiftofGab wrote: »
    Do you think it's ok to visit a friend tonight? I told her it's not safe but she wants to see me and wants to chance it. Have been staying in on my own all week. Have a family member showing symptoms which I told her about.

    Thwt would be big fat no from me.


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  • #6012
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    gabeeg wrote: »
    hahaha

    are you showing off about assaulting an innocent 14 year old who was pushed towards you?

    Didn't assault anyone, had my elbow sticking out to protect myself officer, EVERYONE is supposed to be practicing social distancing in these grave time.

    Maybe you're a parent of one of the types?


  • #6013
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    https://truepundit.com/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-severely-overreacting-to-coronavirus/

    In an analysis published Tuesday, Stanford’s John P.A. Ioannidis — co-director of the university’s Meta-Research Innovation Center and professor of medicine, biomedical data science, statistics, and epidemiology and population health — suggests that the response to the coronavirus pandemic may be “a fiasco in the making” because we are making seismic decisions based on “utterly unreliable” data. The data we do have, Ioannidis explains, indicates that we are likely severely overreacting.
    ...
    Due to extremely limited testing, we are likely missing “the vast majority of infections” from COVID-19, he states, thus making reported fatality rates from the World Health Organization “meaningless.”


  • #6014
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,752 ✭✭✭threeball


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Everyone entering must stay 2 weeks in a government quarantine hotel room

    So essentially yes is what you are saying. The country isolates for 2yrs, theres no normality if people are isolating in hotel rooms for 2 weeks. No tourism, no business visits. There'll be about 5 airlines left on the planet when this is done.


  • #6015
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    People on this thread arguing in favour of the suppression of data.

    That is insane.

    In that case why even discuss the pandemic except in the most vague terms - you don't have the full data and you don't even want to to have the full data


  • #6016
    no.8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭no.8


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote:
    It's bloody infuriating. My wife was fuming cos they don't have these types of lowlifes where she's from. We've just accepted it it seems.


    The story of the coughing cultured wan or the scrotes can't be verified for the rest of us, and i wouldn't advocate violence as a first resort, however, in acts like that (and with prisons letting offenders out / the current emergency situation....i would advocate public batterings.
    No space in prison, no time for the Gards or judiciary system to deal with them. Just let the community beat the **** out of them


  • #6017
    WicklowTiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭WicklowTiger


    J. Marston wrote: »
    The way I'm looking at it is 3 deaths from 683. A mortality rate of 0.43%.

    That's great in my book. It will increase but I'm confident we have a handle on things.

    Another way of looking at it: only 5 yet confirmed as recovered. So that's 675 unknown outcome, and that's only those tested positive.


  • #6018
    coastwatch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    Just 50% of the population?

    I was being deliberately optimistic for J. Marston


  • #6019
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,752 ✭✭✭threeball


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I think it's an example of the most extreme approach. Everyone should be learning what to do from S Korea and Singapore and learning what not to do in the case of Italy, Spain and Britain.

    S Korea and Singapore face the same issue. Repeat infections from external sources


  • #6020
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I think it's an example of the most extreme approach. Everyone should be learning what to do from S Korea and Singapore and learning what not to do in the case of Italy, Spain and Britain.

    And where are we in all of that? somewhere in the middle perhaps.


  • #6021
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    WicklowTiger wrote: »
    Another way of looking at it: only 5 yet confirmed as recovered. So that's 675 unknown outcome, and that's only those tested positive.
    Stats worldwide say 80% mild so you can expect the same here.


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  • #6022
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    threeball wrote: »
    S Korea and Singapore face the same issue. Repeat infections from external sources

    This has already happened in Hong kong.


  • #6023
    Blanco100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    are people claiming one of the fatalities is a 32 year old with no underlying conditions? seriously?


  • #6024
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Update to the stats I posted here with daily increasing averages added:-

    Total Cases: 683
    Daily Case Increase: 22.62%
    Daily Case Reporting Increase: -34.03%
    Mortality Rate: 0.54%
    Recovery Rate: 0.73%
    Poplulation Infected: 0.014%

    Average daily increase since day 1 (29/02/20): 42%
    Average daily increase last 10 days (since 11/03/20): 35.52%
    Average daily increase last 7 days (since 14/03/20): 33.91%

    Average daily confirmation of cases since day 1 (29/02/20): 52.64%
    Average daily confirmation of cases last 10 days (since 11/03/20): 45.57%
    Average daily confirmation of cases last 7 days (since 14/03/20): 41.67%


  • #6025
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Are they still giving the county by county breakdown?


  • #6026
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Seamai wrote: »
    Didn't assault anyone, had my elbow sticking out to protect myself officer, EVERYONE is supposed to be practicing social distancing in these grave time.

    Maybe you're a parent of one of the types?

    Yes because obviously if you disagree with violence you are a ragging scumbag with feral children.

    Obviously. Or maybe you are a bit of a scumbag yourself? Or more likely it never happened.


  • #6027
    deaglan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭deaglan1


    So today, here was my experience when I decided to get out of the house and go to a wilderness for a walk where I knew I would meet nobody. Got there by car. On my way I observed road workers talking and working in close proximity to one another; I saw walkers along the road, side-by side; I saw a bunch of cycling enthusiasts compressed together as they rode along; I saw a golf course car park full with cars and more worryingly full of golfers chatting away with little evidence of distance between them. With the Italians going through hell with no sight of abatement, it is really strange that we are not heeding their warnings about what social exclusion means..the social distancing measures are not really been adhered to here - there is a laxity and complacency in some quarters. Check out the live covid site..we currently lie number 23 out of 172 countries in numbers of cases, yet we have such a small population compared to many other countries. http://ncov2019.live


  • #6028
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    are people claiming one of the fatalities is a 32 year old with no underlying conditions? seriously?

    Don't know the age but the CMO did confirm two days in a row now. No reports of underlying conditions.


  • #6029
    Bigboldworld
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Bigboldworld


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    are people claiming one of the fatalities is a 32 year old with no underlying conditions? seriously?

    It’s confusing, i think the fact that they wouldn’t Mention the age of person and they also said there were no underlying conditions makes people think it was a younger person however some online news sources said it was an 88 year old lady, hard to know what to believe.


  • #6030
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    threeball wrote: »
    So essentially yes is what you are saying. The country isolates for 2yrs, theres no normality if people are isolating in hotel rooms for 2 weeks. No tourism, no business visits. There'll be about 5 airlines left on the planet when this is done.

    Maybe no civilian airlines at all. Military aircraft only.


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  • #6031
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,578 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    If there are any self isolating babes in here licking their lips gagging for some then please send me a PM, I've stocked up with far too much chocolate.


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