CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 20-03-2020 01:24AM

elperello wrote: »

Sorry to hear about your difficulty.

This thread is moving so fast things get overlooked.

I'd say you will be better going through more official and informed channels of information.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-frontline-doctors-warn-of-delays-in-receiving-test-results-1.4207155?mode=amp

The HSE didn't give any specifics on this when asked today. Frontline doctors had to take time out of their obviously busy schedules to tell the public it could be a week before they hear back about a positive test.

Absolutely staggering.

JP Liz V1 · 20-03-2020 01:24AM

martco wrote: »

sorry re-posting this as it got a bit lost in the ocean of chat earlier no answers....

I'm wondering does anyone know the ballpark turnaround times for testing??
5 days now and still no HSE callback to come to test, anyone know the craic pls?

My sister was diagnosed + referred by GP on Monday morning so nearly 5 days now
apparently as a priority case as there's a child with Down Syndrome (immuno-comprimised) in the house
she's worse now but holding steady at moment, if it goes another level we'll be calling 999
there are 5 of them in lockdown in the house, Dun Laoghaire area

still no HSE call to test

I doublechecked with GP the referral was done

Can anyone give me a steer on the testing timeframes at the moment please? I'm starting to wonder whats going on??

thanks

I thought with more test centres and test kits that the time would be reduced, try contacting your GP again and also HSE, quite a few seem to be waiting now for testing after GP referral some even from last week

Nermal · 20-03-2020 01:24AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

South Korea 157 new cases yesterday

If this is WWII, the suppression strategy is appeasement.

BonnieSituation · 20-03-2020 01:24AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

It originates from your bank account.
Without a healthy bank account you have nothing.

Bertie Ahern operated fine without one for a while.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Italy really has been abandoned by the EU much like with the refugee crisis.

What should the EU do?

Larbre34 · 20-03-2020 01:24AM

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm not sure if it's been posted yet but heard that the office of either the Taoiseach or Tanaiste ordered all civil servants to work with no preparations in place for dealing with covid-19. I was informed that anybody in the high risk category is excused but those with high risk family members residing with them, whether they be children or older relatives, have to go to work in an unsafe environment.
How can this be happening?

My wife is in the public service, thats not what she is seeing.

Offices are closed to the public. Hand hygiene stations have been installed, social distancing being enforced. Remote working is in place where possible, usually no more than one third to one half of staff in any department. 2 metre minimum desk spacings and chairs being removed in offices and canteens. Non essential staff are being excused, but where necessary staff are being reassigned to contact tracing, emergency measures implementation and social welfare processing.

Its not ideal but there's tons of services than must be maintained, there cannot be a mass excuse from working.

bekker · 20-03-2020 01:25AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

That is mostly the same thing. Cash is something you can have in your hand. Or mattress or burried in garden either way it is in your posession. Anything digital may not be always accessible or available. World will never get rid of cash.

Not true I'm afraid, but you are guaranteed that you can always burn it for a little heat, as long as it stays dry.

'In 1914, the exchange rate of the German mark to the American dollar was about 4.2 to one. Nine years later, it was 4.2 trillion to one.'

Possibly the most extreme modern example, it began when government started creating money through borrowings.

We have progressed in more recent times - to baseless bonds and 'buybacks'.

Kaisr Sose · 20-03-2020 01:28AM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Ok, well you need to start taking action to prevent this. Get off this thread, get some fresh air, stop reading the news. It's our own responsibility to look after ourselves.

Exactly my thoughts. Social Media should not be a killer.

Kermit.de.frog · 20-03-2020 01:28AM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1240794555672334346

Larbre34 · 20-03-2020 01:29AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

What should the EU do?

Agreed, they need more medics, beds and equipment, but every EU nation is in the same boat to a greater or lesser extent. The shortage of ventilators and PPE is global.

All the EU can do is restrict movement, lift procurement restrictions and make capital available through the ECB.

Logan Roy · 20-03-2020 01:29AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Shocking stuff, they should play this on mainstream tv so people are aware of where this is going.

Is it just me or do they all look old or very overweight?

patnor1011 · 20-03-2020 01:29AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

You didn't understand him at all.

100 Euro cash is just a way of accounting for part of your worth. The same as 100 Euro in numbers in your bank balance.

He can give you that 100 Euro note. By handing it to you, you now have the 100 Euro added to your net worth. But that is the same, conceptually, as "transferring" that electronically to your "screen"

I understand, I was merely pointing on how he phrased it as some people may understand it that way.
My point is that cashless society is a way to tyranny. It is very easy to misuse all data generated by watching over every aspect of your life. Also "less bank robberies" argument does not hold water as cybercrime and possible rouge government restricting your access to your own money is no less scary and fairly common.

tobefrank321 · 20-03-2020 01:30AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Nope. Not all cash comes from bank account. Bank account is a way to send or park their money for people and not a place of origin.

Bank account or your wealth either way. Maybe i'm used to everything going through my bank account rather than physical cash transactions. Its how most of us get paid, money transferred in, no physical cash involved.

Most people look to their bank account balance before deciding if they can afford something.

I guess there's still some people who look under the mattress or in the biscuit tin. Why we continue to cater for these is beyond me.

In my experience people who avoid the use of bank accounts usually have something to hide.

The overall point is we don't need physical cash. Its largely an obsolete idea.

ACitizenErased · 20-03-2020 01:30AM

I've been following this quite closely but have been struggling to explain how Italy got such staggering numbers? If the virus is spread through droplets, have they been going around coughing on each other? Surely means its airborne.

yellowlabrador · 20-03-2020 01:31AM

According to the independant, 25 percent of the dead in the UK are elderly Muslims. They are not isolating themselves from their family. Let's hope that the message gets through and it's also important that we make social isolation work

Stheno · 20-03-2020 01:32AM

Logan Roy wrote: »

Is it just me or do they all look old or very overweight?

Depends on your age

There are quite a few overweight people there but they dont all look 70 plus which is old to me

Tony EH · 20-03-2020 01:32AM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Please send me your screen digits.

Oh, I've far too much, it simply wouldn't fit on the screen dear boy.

Fakediamond · 20-03-2020 01:32AM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

It's horrific, like something out of a video game or a sci-fi movie. Really hope it gets nothing like that here.

That hissing sound is all the oxygen flowing :eek:

patnor1011 · 20-03-2020 01:33AM

bekker wrote: »

Not true I'm afraid, but you are guaranteed that you can always burn it for a little heat, as long as it stays dry.

'In 1914, the exchange rate of the German mark to the American dollar was about 4.2 to one. Nine years later, it was 4.2 trillion to one.'

Possibly the most extreme modern example, it began when government started creating money through borrowings.

We have progressed in more recent times - to baseless bonds and 'buybacks'.

Not valid example as inflation will affect digital money in the same way as it affect cash.
With possible excemption that in case of hyperinflation cash may really be the king as you can get a lot of heat from bales of money.

Kermit.de.frog · 20-03-2020 01:33AM

That fella who ate the bat is after pissing off a lot of people, hasn't he?

893bet · 20-03-2020 01:34AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I've been following this quite closely but have been struggling to explain how Italy got such staggering numbers? If the virus is spread through droplets, have they been going around coughing on each other? Surely means its airborne.

We are on the same trajectory as Italy. Make no mistake on that.

Yes it’s airborne. In droplets when you cough, sneeze or even breath. The droplets are heavy and don’t travel that far but can love on surfaces when the land and get picked up from there.

patnor1011 · 20-03-2020 01:35AM

Stheno wrote: »

Depends on your age

There are quite a few overweight people there but they dont all look 70 plus which is old to me

From what I understand - and from what evidence is out there this virus do not care about age but rather about state of your health.
You may be 70 and fit and survive with no problem and you may be 20 with sihtty diet and lifestyle and you may not get through.

Tony EH · 20-03-2020 01:35AM

bekker wrote: »

Cash is also just a digit on a central bank screen. cf revaluation, or more traditionally coin-clipping.

However. If I wish, I can withdraw my entire account in cash at the moment (well maybe not at the moment). In a cashless society, I couldn't. I'd be even more at the mercy of the bank than I am now.

fritzelly · 20-03-2020 01:36AM

Logan Roy wrote: »

Is it just me or do they all look old or very overweight?

A lot didn't look that old

Fakediamond · 20-03-2020 01:36AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Italy really has been abandoned by the EU much like with the refugee crisis.

I think we’ll be left to our own fate too, the richer countries will look after their own first. Ultimately, there’s a finite amount of equipment, medicines, oxygen. When demand outstrips supply, we’re at the very end of a long supply chain

Larbre34 · 20-03-2020 01:37AM

yellowlabrador wrote: »

According to the independant, 25 percent of the dead in the UK are elderly Muslims. They are not isolating themselves from their family. Let's hope that the message gets through and it's also important that we make social isolation work

If there is some religious or cultural reason why that should be so, then its their own poor look out. Really they are not stupid people, they get told the same as everyone else. If it persists, people not following protocols should be confined to their houses by the authorities, families and all.

tobefrank321 · 20-03-2020 01:37AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

I understand, I was merely pointing on how he phrased it as some people may understand it that way.
My point is that cashless society is a way to tyranny. It is very easy to misuse all data generated by watching over every aspect of your life. Also "less bank robberies" argument does not hold water as cybercrime and possible rouge government restricting your access to your own money is no less scary and fairly common.

The cash society leads to widespread tax evasion in many sectors. Its also how many criminal transactions are carried out. If you have nothing to hide then all your banking transactions should be transparent, unless some are illegal?

sheepsh4gger · 20-03-2020 01:38AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Not valid example as inflation will affect digital money in the same way as it affect cash.
With possible excemption that in case of hyperinflation cash may really be the king as you can get a lot of heat from bales of money.

You must be talking about Tehter as most currencies require proof of work.

Larbre34 · 20-03-2020 01:39AM

Fakediamond wrote: »

I think we’ll be left to our own fate too, the richer countries will look after their own first. Ultimately, there’s a finite amount of equipment, medicines, oxygen. When demand outstrips supply, we’re at the very end of a long supply chain

We actually manufacture quite a bit of high tech gear in this Country. If car builders converted to building bombers during the war, I don't think we're beyond making masks and ventilators.

Longing · 20-03-2020 01:40AM

South Korea 4 days in a row of steady rise in cases from 74 to 152.

sheepsh4gger · 20-03-2020 01:41AM

Tony EH wrote: »

However. If I wish, I can withdraw my entire account in cash at the moment (well maybe not at the moment). In a cashless society, I couldn't. I'd be even more at the mercy of the bank than I am now.

Depends how it's done, it's not necessarily the case. If you use a public blockchain then you own your digital cash, not a bank. (more less)

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