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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #3812
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The scientist (Dr Marr) who criticized the lab conditions was the person who said the chances of catching it this way unless you were very near an infected person was very low.
    Very low through aerosol transmission (except for if they sneeze or cough, which propels droplets at you. The droplets also land on objects and skin which can then be transferred via touch to the eyes, nose and mouth. They said the virus can likely survive more easily and longer with assistance from bodily fluids like saliva and mucus.


  • #3813
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    bekker wrote: »
    cf Latin novus

    What's this? Something novel made up by you?

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #3814
    Muir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Muir


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    Ok, don't ridicule this idea but seeing as we're hoping that older people will cocoon themselves, is there any such thing as a phone number that they can ring for a chat or something if they are lonely, particularly older people without family?

    We have Senior Line


  • #3815
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Cashless society means that you can forget about your privacy. Also you end up with paying transaction fees for every even trivial purchase.
    Cash is king.
    There are currencies with a private blockchain and coin-tumblers. You can have the digital equivalent of cash but banks probably won't do it because of KYS or whatever.


  • #3816
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Cashless society means that you can forget about your privacy. Also you end up with paying transaction fees for every even trivial purchase.
    Cash is king.

    Depends on the bank. I don't get charged for any transactions whereas there is a 12c tax on ATM withdrawals.


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  • #3817
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Because it’s not harmless to vulnerable people but we cannot shut down the world for a year... can we ?


    This is the UK model after they switched to supression:
    506275.JPG

    Current UK policy is a series of gradual relaxations and then clamping down again . So basically shutdown 2/3 of the time for the next 2 years, but with short periods in between.


  • #3818
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Request: Could all of those who are so selflessly concerned about the economy and other people's finances please post in 'Are we better off getting it now and out of the way?' https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062887


  • #3819
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    IamtheWalrus wrote: »
    I had thought this. But why is the WHO so alarmed if it's a relatively harmless virus.

    Because it is 'relatively ' harmless under normal circumstances . Because it is so infectious it means the circumstances change and hospitals are overwhelmed and rather than 1% of patients dying like in South Korea you get 4-9% of patients dying in Italy and Spain. And that is no bueno


  • #3820
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    What's this? Something novel made up by you?
    A hint that you try a bit of research. In all areas.


  • #3821
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,647 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Cashless society means that you can forget about your privacy. Also you end up with paying transaction fees for every even trivial purchase.
    Cash is king.

    A cashless society is a terrible idea. Always surprised at how willing some people are for it.

    If you have cash, you have a tradable item. You own your money. If you don't have cash, you are just digits on a screen, that are essentially owned by a bank.


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  • #3822
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    A lot of older people have no cards, save at home, or in the credit union or post office book, use only cash

    I think all banks have charges too, transaction fees etc.,


  • #3823
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Tony EH wrote: »
    You own your money.
    More like the central bank owns it. For example in India they banned the 20 note and everyone who had it stashed got their money cancelled.


  • #3824
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Axel Square Simulator wrote: »
    Very low through aerosol transmission (except for if they sneeze or cough, which propels droplets at you. The droplets also land on objects and skin which can then be transferred via touch to the eyes, nose and mouth. They said the virus can likely survive more easily and longer with assistance from bodily fluids like saliva and mucus.

    Thought her analogy of being able to smell somebodys exhaled cigarette smoke or ‘seeing’ condensed breath was good as an indicator. As ever, keep your distance from others is the rule still.


  • #3825
    Jeff2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,734 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Axel Square Simulator wrote: »
    Yeah Tony made it out today like they'd all just come sauntering back from their holibobs with coronavirus.

    That wouldn't surprise me one bit.

    The first in South was a Doctor returned to Ireland from holiday.


  • #3826
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    Depends on the bank. I don't get charged for any transactions whereas there is a 12c tax on ATM withdrawals.

    It also costs more for businesses to lodge and order change from banks than the equivalent in card fees.


  • #3827
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    spookwoman wrote: »
    That sky news article esp the vidoo is something that people need to watch
    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1240781787976085506?s=20

    I'd imagine under normal circumstances that's is a well resourced sophisticated hospital.

    Worrying.


  • #3828
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    PCI compliance requires credit card machines, say from Ingenico. This is so they don't send un-encrypted card numbers over a wire which allows for say malware skimming numbers.
    Most of these credit card machines have contactless built into hardware for maybe a decade now.

    I agree re contactless, most shops have them now.
    There's no real impediment to a cashless society, particurly when shopping. The benefits of going cashless far outweigh the costs. Not saying robberies would be reduced as you'd still have cyber crime but you'd no longer have atm machine robberies or similar and the huge costs around moving cash you have currently. Also criminal financial transactions are harder to trace when cash only is used.


  • #3829
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Tony EH wrote: »
    A cashless society is a terrible idea. Always surprised at how willing some people are for it.

    If you have cash, you have a tradable item. You own your money. If you don't have cash, you are just digits on a screen, that are essentially owned by a bank.

    Please send me your screen digits.


  • #3830
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    There are currencies with a private blockchain and coin-tumblers. You can have the digital equivalent of cash but banks probably won't do it because of KYS or whatever.

    That is mostly the same thing. Cash is something you can have in your hand. Or mattress or burried in garden either way it is in your posession. Anything digital may not be always accessible or available. World will never get rid of cash.


  • #3831
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,552 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Tony EH wrote: »
    A cashless society is a terrible idea. Always surprised at how willing some people are for it.

    If you have cash, you have a tradable item. You own your money. If you don't have cash, you are just digits on a screen, that are essentially owned by a bank.

    Can't beat the old roll of notes.

    Fist of cash is the only man for Done Deal.


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  • #3832
    vladmydad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    OMG :eek::( I need a panic room and xanax

    Actually felt my heart rate go up reading that article.


  • #3833
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    bekker wrote: »
    A hint that you try a bit of research. In all areas.

    abstract nonsense !

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #3834
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Actually felt my heart rate go up reading that article.

    I am not in the least afraid of death.

    I am terrified of pain and suffering if I was like that I would rather go quick and I am not joking.


  • #3835
    Snowbiee21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Snowbiee21


    Anybody else think a full lockdown is on cards?
    191 new cases today, and emergency rule is being passed tomorrow?


  • #3836
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Tony EH wrote: »
    A cashless society is a terrible idea. Always surprised at how willing some people are for it.

    If you have cash, you have a tradable item. You own your money. If you don't have cash, you are just digits on a screen, that are essentially owned by a bank.
    Cash is also just a digit on a central bank screen. cf revaluation, or more traditionally coin-clipping.


  • #3837
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Drink every time someone says "full lockdown".


  • #3838
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Snowbiee21 wrote: »
    Anybody else think a full lockdown is on cards?
    191 new cases today, and emergency rule is being passed tomorrow?

    I don't have a clue but Jesus that footage from Italy is chilling.


  • #3839
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Snowbiee21 wrote: »
    Anybody else think a full lockdown is on cards?
    191 new cases today, and emergency rule is being passed tomorrow?


    They would need to release all prisoners to make room for those they would need to lock up.


  • #3840
    moonlighting_1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭moonlighting_1


    video from inside italy hospital looks scary

    https://vimeo.com/398334975


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  • #3841
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Tony EH wrote: »
    A cashless society is a terrible idea. Always surprised at how willing some people are for it.

    If you have cash, you have a tradable item. You own your money. If you don't have cash, you are just digits on a screen, that are essentially owned by a bank.

    Please tell me you're joking?

    Paper cash is just a receipt of what you have in your bank account no more. The important tradable item is not the physical cash its whats in your bank account.

    I should also have mentioned forged money, that would be eliminated too.

    I guess you like to flash the cash Tony? Show them you mean business.


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