CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

ACitizenErased · 20-03-2020 01:30AM

I've been following this quite closely but have been struggling to explain how Italy got such staggering numbers? If the virus is spread through droplets, have they been going around coughing on each other? Surely means its airborne.

yellowlabrador · 20-03-2020 01:31AM

According to the independant, 25 percent of the dead in the UK are elderly Muslims. They are not isolating themselves from their family. Let's hope that the message gets through and it's also important that we make social isolation work

Stheno · 20-03-2020 01:32AM

Logan Roy wrote: »

Is it just me or do they all look old or very overweight?

Depends on your age

There are quite a few overweight people there but they dont all look 70 plus which is old to me

Tony EH · 20-03-2020 01:32AM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Please send me your screen digits.

Oh, I've far too much, it simply wouldn't fit on the screen dear boy.

Fakediamond · 20-03-2020 01:32AM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

It's horrific, like something out of a video game or a sci-fi movie. Really hope it gets nothing like that here.

That hissing sound is all the oxygen flowing :eek:

patnor1011 · 20-03-2020 01:33AM

bekker wrote: »

Not true I'm afraid, but you are guaranteed that you can always burn it for a little heat, as long as it stays dry.

'In 1914, the exchange rate of the German mark to the American dollar was about 4.2 to one. Nine years later, it was 4.2 trillion to one.'

Possibly the most extreme modern example, it began when government started creating money through borrowings.

We have progressed in more recent times - to baseless bonds and 'buybacks'.

Not valid example as inflation will affect digital money in the same way as it affect cash.
With possible excemption that in case of hyperinflation cash may really be the king as you can get a lot of heat from bales of money.

Kermit.de.frog · 20-03-2020 01:33AM

That fella who ate the bat is after pissing off a lot of people, hasn't he?

893bet · 20-03-2020 01:34AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I've been following this quite closely but have been struggling to explain how Italy got such staggering numbers? If the virus is spread through droplets, have they been going around coughing on each other? Surely means its airborne.

We are on the same trajectory as Italy. Make no mistake on that.

Yes it’s airborne. In droplets when you cough, sneeze or even breath. The droplets are heavy and don’t travel that far but can love on surfaces when the land and get picked up from there.

patnor1011 · 20-03-2020 01:35AM

Stheno wrote: »

Depends on your age

There are quite a few overweight people there but they dont all look 70 plus which is old to me

From what I understand - and from what evidence is out there this virus do not care about age but rather about state of your health.
You may be 70 and fit and survive with no problem and you may be 20 with sihtty diet and lifestyle and you may not get through.

Tony EH · 20-03-2020 01:35AM

bekker wrote: »

Cash is also just a digit on a central bank screen. cf revaluation, or more traditionally coin-clipping.

However. If I wish, I can withdraw my entire account in cash at the moment (well maybe not at the moment). In a cashless society, I couldn't. I'd be even more at the mercy of the bank than I am now.

fritzelly · 20-03-2020 01:36AM

Logan Roy wrote: »

Is it just me or do they all look old or very overweight?

A lot didn't look that old

Fakediamond · 20-03-2020 01:36AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Italy really has been abandoned by the EU much like with the refugee crisis.

I think we’ll be left to our own fate too, the richer countries will look after their own first. Ultimately, there’s a finite amount of equipment, medicines, oxygen. When demand outstrips supply, we’re at the very end of a long supply chain

Larbre34 · 20-03-2020 01:37AM

yellowlabrador wrote: »

According to the independant, 25 percent of the dead in the UK are elderly Muslims. They are not isolating themselves from their family. Let's hope that the message gets through and it's also important that we make social isolation work

If there is some religious or cultural reason why that should be so, then its their own poor look out. Really they are not stupid people, they get told the same as everyone else. If it persists, people not following protocols should be confined to their houses by the authorities, families and all.

tobefrank321 · 20-03-2020 01:37AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

I understand, I was merely pointing on how he phrased it as some people may understand it that way.
My point is that cashless society is a way to tyranny. It is very easy to misuse all data generated by watching over every aspect of your life. Also "less bank robberies" argument does not hold water as cybercrime and possible rouge government restricting your access to your own money is no less scary and fairly common.

The cash society leads to widespread tax evasion in many sectors. Its also how many criminal transactions are carried out. If you have nothing to hide then all your banking transactions should be transparent, unless some are illegal?

sheepsh4gger · 20-03-2020 01:38AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Not valid example as inflation will affect digital money in the same way as it affect cash.
With possible excemption that in case of hyperinflation cash may really be the king as you can get a lot of heat from bales of money.

You must be talking about Tehter as most currencies require proof of work.

Larbre34 · 20-03-2020 01:39AM

Fakediamond wrote: »

I think we’ll be left to our own fate too, the richer countries will look after their own first. Ultimately, there’s a finite amount of equipment, medicines, oxygen. When demand outstrips supply, we’re at the very end of a long supply chain

We actually manufacture quite a bit of high tech gear in this Country. If car builders converted to building bombers during the war, I don't think we're beyond making masks and ventilators.

Longing · 20-03-2020 01:40AM

South Korea 4 days in a row of steady rise in cases from 74 to 152.

sheepsh4gger · 20-03-2020 01:41AM

Tony EH wrote: »

However. If I wish, I can withdraw my entire account in cash at the moment (well maybe not at the moment). In a cashless society, I couldn't. I'd be even more at the mercy of the bank than I am now.

Depends how it's done, it's not necessarily the case. If you use a public blockchain then you own your digital cash, not a bank. (more less)

marilynrr · 20-03-2020 01:42AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I've been following this quite closely but have been struggling to explain how Italy got such staggering numbers? If the virus is spread through droplets, have they been going around coughing on each other? Surely means its airborne.

They kiss on the cheek when they greet each other

cnocbui · 20-03-2020 01:42AM

Larbre34 wrote: »

We actually manufacture quite a bit of high tech gear in this Country. If car builders converted to building bombers during the war, I don't think we're beyond making masks and ventilators.

Ventilators are already made in Galway and masks in Limerick.

ACitizenErased · 20-03-2020 01:42AM

marilynrr wrote: »

They kiss on the cheek when they greet each other

I'm convinced it has to be something like that that's causing the spread.

patnor1011 · 20-03-2020 01:43AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Bank account or your wealth either way. Maybe i'm used to everything going through my bank account rather than physical cash transactions. Its how most of us get paid, money transferred in, no physical cash involved.

Most people look to their bank account balance before deciding if they can afford something.

I guess there's still some people who look under the mattress or in the biscuit tin. Why we continue to cater for these is beyond me.

In my experience people who avoid the use of bank accounts usually have something to hide.

The overall point is we don't need physical cash. Its largely an obsolete idea.

That is the very precise argument they want to push through.
It’s not that I have something to hide. I have nothing I want you to see.
Everyone use bank account - me too. Point is that cash is giving you freedom to use it without someone instantly knowing when and what you do.
I bet nobody would be quite happy when they realize that scores of other people will know what you earn and where you spend it to the last cent which is what cashless really is.

V8 Interceptor · 20-03-2020 01:44AM

15 Italians who were in Ireland test positive for Coronavirus on return to Italy

https://gript.ie/15-italians-who-were-in-ireland-test-positive-for-coronavirus-on-return-to-italy/

15 Italians who were in Ireland for flight assistant training with Ryanair have Covid19. Some of them were under treatment in two hospitals in Dublin while others have been quarantined.

It is believed that they contracted the virus in Bergamo, near Milan, where the training began. Bergamo is the area with of the largest number
of Corona virus deaths in Italy. Ryanair daily direct flights from Bergamo (Orio al Serio) to Dublin were discontinued only on 10th March.

The group left Bergamo for Bari on 2nd March, when the whole Lombardy region was locked down, and they arrived in Dublin on Saturday 7th March.

rob316 · 20-03-2020 01:44AM

I use my debit card alot but cash is absolute king. Untraceable and when the banks meltdown it'll still work just fine.

tikkahunter · 20-03-2020 01:45AM

Fakediamond wrote: »

I think we’ll be left to our own fate too, the richer countries will look after their own first. Ultimately, there’s a finite amount of equipment, medicines, oxygen. When demand outstrips supply, we’re at the very end of a long supply chain

We produce ventilators in this country and bottle oxygen , we have also every top pharmaceutical plant operating on this Island.

rob316 · 20-03-2020 01:47AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I've been following this quite closely but have been struggling to explain how Italy got such staggering numbers? If the virus is spread through droplets, have they been going around coughing on each other? Surely means its airborne.

You clearly haven't so.

Oldest population around
Median infection age 63
Highly densely populated area (same as munster, 10m vs 1m people)
Spread undetected
and yes they kiss each other alot.

kowloon · 20-03-2020 01:47AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

There is a company from Derby who's test diagnoses in 10

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8118165/British-company-claims-created-coronavirus-test-detect-COVID-19-ten-minutes.html

I wonder if there's someone working on a nine-minute test.

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20-03-2020 01:48AM

Larbre34 wrote: »

My wife is in the public service, thats not what she is seeing.

Offices are closed to the public. Hand hygiene stations have been installed, social distancing being enforced. Remote working is in place where possible, usually no more than one third to one half of staff in any department. 2 metre minimum desk spacings and chairs being removed in offices and canteens. Non essential staff are being excused, but where necessary staff are being reassigned to contact tracing, emergency measures implementation and social welfare processing.

Its not ideal but there's tons of services than must be maintained, there cannot be a mass excuse from working.

its varying hugely from place to place

the instructions from dper are clear enough imo but local depts just do as they wish regardless.

some depts simply arent communicating at all, some have instructed staff to attend work under threat of disciplinary regardless of wfh capability or urgency of work, some places have told staff stay home regardless of there being work they can do remotely

some depts far, far better prepared for remote working than others.

therell be major inquests into how some depts have found themselves still in the 90s or how they just havent reacted since the whole thing broke.

line managers left in a rotten position in places.

unions hopeless also, maybe there'll be an article about it in the next forsa mag eh

Kermit.de.frog · 20-03-2020 01:48AM

https://twitter.com/DanRather/status/1240691981153480705

marilynrr · 20-03-2020 01:48AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm convinced it has to be something like that that's causing the spread.

There's a good chance it has played a big part in it. Also when they are kissing on the cheek where do they put their hands? maybe on the other persons arms or elbows or another part of their body and the virus is staying on the clothes and being spread that way when the person touches their own clothes or the next person touches them to greet them!

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP