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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    But the money has to come from some sort of activity. Its not free. The concept of free money only really exists with the crypto currencies.
    You have it backwards. Crypto is proof of work. Fiat like £$€ is just printed out of thin air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,720 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Note:
    - mostly men
    - over 70?
    - very likely smokers, hard to tell

    There seems to be suggestions that CV is hitting men much worse than women (something to do with their respective immune systems).

    I've heard a theory that many of those who passed away in Italy were indeed heavy smokers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Actually felt my heart rate go up reading that article.

    I fear an heart attack might take me out over the virus, my anixety and stress levels are high


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    This is going to have untold mental health issues worldwide .

    Death of loved ones without funerals, isolation, loss of jobs, debt.... the list is endless.

    The longer this goes on the bigger these issues will become . Its like something out of a move only less believable.

    Take care of one another folks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Please tell me you're joking?

    Paper cash is just a receipt of what you have in your bank account no more. The important tradable item is not the physical cash its whats in your bank account.

    I should also have mentioned forged money, that would be eliminated too.

    I guess you like to flash the cash Tony? Show them you mean business.

    Seriously?
    So if you have 100 euro note or thousand of them in your hand that means you do have the same in your bank account?
    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,926 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Just watched the excellent Sky News report from inside the hospital at Bergamo in Lombardy, a horrifying sight of patients crammed in wearing oxygen helmets and masks, the conversion rate to pneumonia in sufferers at a bewildering level. Senior medics saying they've never been so stressed in their working lives, knowing that their best efforts are no longer enough. In that location half are recovering, half are dying. Hundreds each day.

    They call it 'apocalisse', the apocalypse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I fear an heart attack might take me out over the virus, my anixety and stress levels are high

    Ok, well you need to start taking action to prevent this. Get off this thread, get some fresh air, stop reading the news. It's our own responsibility to look after ourselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Strazdas wrote: »
    There seems to be suggestions that CV is hitting men much worse than women (something to do with their respective immune systems).

    I've heard a theory that many of those who passed away in Italy were indeed heavy smokers.
    The thing that looks dodgy about the video is that they are not laying on their stomachs which increases the survival rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Shocking stuff, they should play this on mainstream tv so people are aware of where this is going.

    Yes absolutely. I think more of this footage should be played. Some still people don’t understand how serious this is.

    I’m hearing people saying “just wash hands”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Note:
    - over 70?
    - very likely smokers, hard to tell
    Maybe you have some Sherlock Holmes skills to tell those people are smokers and you aren't just talking out your ass, but very few of them looked like they could be over 70.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Seriously?
    So if you have 100 euro note or thousand of them in your hand that means you do have the same in your bank account?
    :D

    You didn't understand him at all.

    100 Euro cash is just a way of accounting for part of your worth. The same as 100 Euro in numbers in your bank balance.

    He can give you that 100 Euro note. By handing it to you, you now have the 100 Euro added to your net worth. But that is the same, conceptually, as "transferring" that electronically to your "screen"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Seriously?
    So if you have 100 euro note or thousand of them in your hand that means you do have the same in your bank account?
    :D

    It originates from your bank account.
    Without a healthy bank account you have nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    The modern equivalent of that is stashing non-fiat across many electronic platforms, the idea being that they'll hardly all fail at the same time. Not sure there's much guarantee of that being true anymore though.

    I do not know. What you are talking about is rather speculation. I do not know of anyone who will put all his eggs in crypto basket. It is way too volatile. Good to make money but you may also lose your pants in a process.
    To me the modern equivalent is rather gold and silver - look at all the central banks recently buying as much as they could.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    There is zero reason to think it will not.

    We have to hope otherwise. That scenario, here, is catastrophic.


  • Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I work in an office with 10 other people. Is two meters really much use in an office when you are sat there all day beside people. We are about the 2m apart. I'm not really convinced its safe when we are all sat there for the day breathing the same air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Just watched the excellent Sky News report from inside the hospital at Bergamo in Lombardy, a horrifying sight of patients crammed in wearing oxygen helmets and masks, the conversion rate to pneumonia in sufferers at a bewildering level. Senior medics saying they've never been so stressed in their working lives, knowing that their best efforts are no longer enough. In that location half are recovering, half are dying. Hundreds each day.

    They call it 'apocalisse', the apocalypse.

    Italy really has been abandoned by the EU much like with the refugee crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    It originates from your bank account.
    Without a healthy bank account you have nothing.

    Nope. Not all cash comes from bank account. Bank account is a way to send or park their money for people and not a place of origin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    This is going to have untold mental health issues worldwide .

    Death of loved ones without funerals, isolation, loss of jobs, debt.... the list is endless.

    The longer this goes on the bigger these issues will become . Its like something out of a move only less believable.

    Take care of one another folks

    mental health has always been the poorer cousin of physical health

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    elperello wrote: »
    Sorry to hear about your difficulty.

    This thread is moving so fast things get overlooked.

    I'd say you will be better going through more official and informed channels of information.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-frontline-doctors-warn-of-delays-in-receiving-test-results-1.4207155?mode=amp

    The HSE didn't give any specifics on this when asked today. Frontline doctors had to take time out of their obviously busy schedules to tell the public it could be a week before they hear back about a positive test.

    Absolutely staggering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    martco wrote: »
    sorry re-posting this as it got a bit lost in the ocean of chat earlier no answers....

    I'm wondering does anyone know the ballpark turnaround times for testing??
    5 days now and still no HSE callback to come to test, anyone know the craic pls?

    My sister was diagnosed + referred by GP on Monday morning so nearly 5 days now
    apparently as a priority case as there's a child with Down Syndrome (immuno-comprimised) in the house
    she's worse now but holding steady at moment, if it goes another level we'll be calling 999
    there are 5 of them in lockdown in the house, Dun Laoghaire area

    still no HSE call to test

    I doublechecked with GP the referral was done

    Can anyone give me a steer on the testing timeframes at the moment please? I'm starting to wonder whats going on??

    thanks

    I thought with more test centres and test kits that the time would be reduced, try contacting your GP again and also HSE, quite a few seem to be waiting now for testing after GP referral some even from last week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭Nermal


    South Korea 157 new cases yesterday

    If this is WWII, the suppression strategy is appeasement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    It originates from your bank account.
    Without a healthy bank account you have nothing.

    Bertie Ahern operated fine without one for a while.
    Italy really has been abandoned by the EU much like with the refugee crisis.

    What should the EU do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,926 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I'm not sure if it's been posted yet but heard that the office of either the Taoiseach or Tanaiste ordered all civil servants to work with no preparations in place for dealing with covid-19. I was informed that anybody in the high risk category is excused but those with high risk family members residing with them, whether they be children or older relatives, have to go to work in an unsafe environment.
    How can this be happening?

    My wife is in the public service, thats not what she is seeing.

    Offices are closed to the public. Hand hygiene stations have been installed, social distancing being enforced. Remote working is in place where possible, usually no more than one third to one half of staff in any department. 2 metre minimum desk spacings and chairs being removed in offices and canteens. Non essential staff are being excused, but where necessary staff are being reassigned to contact tracing, emergency measures implementation and social welfare processing.

    Its not ideal but there's tons of services than must be maintained, there cannot be a mass excuse from working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    That is mostly the same thing. Cash is something you can have in your hand. Or mattress or burried in garden either way it is in your posession. Anything digital may not be always accessible or available. World will never get rid of cash.
    Not true I'm afraid, but you are guaranteed that you can always burn it for a little heat, as long as it stays dry.

    'In 1914, the exchange rate of the German mark to the American dollar was about 4.2 to one. Nine years later, it was 4.2 trillion to one.'

    Possibly the most extreme modern example, it began when government started creating money through borrowings.

    We have progressed in more recent times - to baseless bonds and 'buybacks'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Ok, well you need to start taking action to prevent this. Get off this thread, get some fresh air, stop reading the news. It's our own responsibility to look after ourselves.

    Exactly my thoughts. Social Media should not be a killer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,926 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    What should the EU do?

    Agreed, they need more medics, beds and equipment, but every EU nation is in the same boat to a greater or lesser extent. The shortage of ventilators and PPE is global.

    All the EU can do is restrict movement, lift procurement restrictions and make capital available through the ECB.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    Shocking stuff, they should play this on mainstream tv so people are aware of where this is going.

    Is it just me or do they all look old or very overweight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    You didn't understand him at all.

    100 Euro cash is just a way of accounting for part of your worth. The same as 100 Euro in numbers in your bank balance.

    He can give you that 100 Euro note. By handing it to you, you now have the 100 Euro added to your net worth. But that is the same, conceptually, as "transferring" that electronically to your "screen"

    I understand, I was merely pointing on how he phrased it as some people may understand it that way.
    My point is that cashless society is a way to tyranny. It is very easy to misuse all data generated by watching over every aspect of your life. Also "less bank robberies" argument does not hold water as cybercrime and possible rouge government restricting your access to your own money is no less scary and fairly common.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Nope. Not all cash comes from bank account. Bank account is a way to send or park their money for people and not a place of origin.

    Bank account or your wealth either way. Maybe i'm used to everything going through my bank account rather than physical cash transactions. Its how most of us get paid, money transferred in, no physical cash involved.

    Most people look to their bank account balance before deciding if they can afford something.

    I guess there's still some people who look under the mattress or in the biscuit tin. Why we continue to cater for these is beyond me.

    In my experience people who avoid the use of bank accounts usually have something to hide.

    The overall point is we don't need physical cash. Its largely an obsolete idea.


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