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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Snowbiee21 wrote: »
    Anybody else think a full lockdown is on cards?
    191 new cases today, and emergency rule is being passed tomorrow?
    There could be a bank run but I doubt it.
    If you're afraid then go to coinbase and then you have at least something other than Euro to use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,517 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    It's called helicopter money. It is an alternative to quantitive easing. Interest rates are rock bottom so QE isn't an option.
    Handing people money and having them spend it will keep businesses moving, manufacturers producing and people in jobs.

    Hong Kong have already carried this out and the Us is strongly considering it .

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/helicopter-money-a-direct-economic-shot-in-the-arm-for-all-citizens-1.4202171?mode=amp

    Why do we all need to work so??

    Just hand out money every now and then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,178 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    South Korea 157 new cases yesterday


    #stop!yourgoingthewrongway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Why do we all need to work so??

    Just hand out money every now and then.

    Money represents work how do you think food appears on the shelves in the supermarkets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭boardise


    They would need to release all prisoners to make room for those they would need to lock up.

    Hmm....Bit of a Prisoners Dilemma there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    video from inside italy hospital looks scary

    https://vimeo.com/398334975


    Shocking stuff, they should play this on mainstream tv so people are aware of where this is going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    bekker wrote: »
    Cash is also just a digit on a central bank screen. cf revaluation, or more traditionally coin-clipping.

    The idea that you need to make a withdrawal of cash to (for example) pay for a car or indeed anything is an idea whose day is almost done.

    Cash today is often the preserve of dodgy transactions, criminality, tax evasion or little old grannies who like the feel of a few notes in their purse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    video from inside italy hospital looks scary

    https://vimeo.com/398334975

    It's horrific, like something out of a video game or a sci-fi movie. Really hope it gets nothing like that here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    It's horrific, like something out of a video game or a sci-fi movie. Really hope it gets nothing like that here.

    There is zero reason to think it will not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,517 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Money represents work how do you think food appears on the shelves in the supermarkets?

    Yes but you can't just print it and hand it out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Shocking stuff, they should play this on mainstream tv so people are aware of where this is going.

    No point preaching to the converted here. It should be played to those kids at house parties who think its all a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    That is mostly the same thing. Cash is something you can have in your hand. Or mattress or burried in garden either way it is in your posession. Anything digital may not be always accessible or available. World will never get rid of cash.
    You can bury 1 bitcoin on a flash drive.
    I would be for using cash if it would be made from silver and gold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭martco


    sorry re-posting this as it got a bit lost in the ocean of chat earlier no answers....

    I'm wondering does anyone know the ballpark turnaround times for testing??
    5 days now and still no HSE callback to come to test, anyone know the craic pls?

    My sister was diagnosed + referred by GP on Monday morning so nearly 5 days now
    apparently as a priority case as there's a child with Down Syndrome (immuno-comprimised) in the house
    she's worse now but holding steady at moment, if it goes another level we'll be calling 999
    there are 5 of them in lockdown in the house, Dun Laoghaire area

    still no HSE call to test

    I doublechecked with GP the referral was done

    Can anyone give me a steer on the testing timeframes at the moment please? I'm starting to wonder whats going on??

    thanks


  • Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    South Korea 157 new cases yesterday


    #stop!yourgoingthewrongway




    Please tell me that #hashtag is in reference to this :D





    https://youtu.be/_akwHYMdbsM?t=25


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Why do we all need to work so??

    Just hand out money every now and then.
    Google 'cantillon effect'. Just some of us need to work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    That is mostly the same thing. Cash is something you can have in your hand. Or mattress or burried in garden either way it is in your posession. Anything digital may not be always accessible or available. World will never get rid of cash.
    The modern equivalent of that is stashing non-fiat across many electronic platforms, the idea being that they'll hardly all fail at the same time. Not sure there's much guarantee of that being true anymore though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,789 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Shocking stuff, they should play this on mainstream tv so people are aware of where this is going.

    I don't watch much tv and from what I've seen on the news reports its basically relaying the numbers and how clean the water is in Venician canals and no reality footage like that link or am I wrong
    If I'm right then they do need to start showing it - reality needs to hit home for a lot of people. Those people in the video didn't look old at all


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Sweet suffering God

    I've just seen the sky news article in the hospital

    God love them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,720 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Tony EH wrote: »
    A cashless society is a terrible idea. Always surprised at how willing some people are for it.

    If you have cash, you have a tradable item. You own your money. If you don't have cash, you are just digits on a screen, that are essentially owned by a bank.

    All cash money is backed by some bank as an IOU to trading people.

    It is worthless in a crash as in Africa when they had wheelbarrows of cash money to buy food


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,517 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Stheno wrote: »
    Sweet suffering God

    I've just seen the sky news article in the hospital

    God love them

    Who


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    South Korea 157 new cases yesterday


    #stop!yourgoingthewrongway

    Are we modelling our plan on there, that is still high no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,368 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    martco wrote: »
    sorry re-posting this as it got a bit lost in the ocean of chat earlier no answers....

    I'm wondering does anyone know the ballpark turnaround times for testing??
    5 days now and still no HSE callback to come to test, anyone know the craic pls?

    My sister was diagnosed + referred by GP on Monday morning so nearly 5 days now
    apparently as a priority case as there's a child with Down Syndrome (immuno-comprimised) in the house
    she's worse now but holding steady at moment
    there are 5 of them in lockdown in the house, Dun Laoghaire area

    still no HSE call to test

    I doublechecked with GP the referral was done

    Can anyone give me a steer on the testing timeframes at the moment please? I'm starting to wonder whats going on??

    thanks

    Sorry to hear about your difficulty.

    This thread is moving so fast things get overlooked.

    I'd say you will be better going through more official and informed channels of information.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭i57dwun4yb1pt8


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Are dead bodies of victims still contagious?


    NOW THEN , NOW THEN , NOW THEN ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    It's called helicopter money. It is an alternative to quantitive easing. Interest rates are rock bottom so QE isn't an option.
    Handing people money and having them spend it will keep businesses moving, manufacturers producing and people in jobs.

    Hong Kong have already carried this out and the Us is strongly considering it .

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/helicopter-money-a-direct-economic-shot-in-the-arm-for-all-citizens-1.4202171?mode=amp
    The probable flaw to the boost in economic activity thesis is the human instinct towards hording of the windfall till things return to normal, or else stashing for the really rain day perceived to be just over the horizon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭jbt123


    gmisk wrote: »
    The WHO say it isn't who would you believe?

    We won't get fooled again...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,059 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Why do we all need to work so??

    Just hand out money every now and then.

    But the money has to come from some sort of activity. Its not free. The concept of free money only really exists with the crypto currencies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    video from inside italy hospital looks scary

    https://vimeo.com/398334975
    Note:
    - mostly men
    - over 70?
    - very likely smokers, hard to tell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 C55


    niallo27 wrote: »
    All these people complaining about people not staying at home, how the **** do you know this if your stuck at home and not out and about.
    I’m sure they can see them through the window in their houses, or from their gardens, from their cars or from their walks alone. I’ve a lot of time on my hands to see them as I am temporarily laid off because of this crisis. Which part of stay at home do people not understand? I hated being at work these last few days as we were in close contact with the public for non essential hospitality so I’m glad we shut the doors. I’m not so ecstatic about the €203 funding per week but sure it’s better than nothing I guess! I’d prefer to stay inside as much as possible for 3 months if needs be then to risk my health or worse my loved ones. In fact I’d hate to infect anyone at all strange as it might seem to some people... I can understand people acting out if this goes on indefinitely but for some people to totally disregard the extraordinary measures we have been forced to implement is actually mind boggling. This is not a whim of our government saying we will tell them what to do we are in charge, it is potentially life saving advice. Kids were kids back in my day as well which wasn’t a million years ago but I would have gotten a swift kick up the backside if I couldn’t obey these restrictions for at least a few weeks. It’s just a week since school closed hardly enough time to be sick of tv, internet etc if they are keeping up with their schoolwork during the day. The people working for the essential services especially those on the frontline should be awarded for their bravery once this is all over.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,789 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I'm not sure if it's been posted yet but heard that the office of either the Taoiseach or Tanaiste ordered all civil servants to work with no preparations in place for dealing with covid-19. I was informed that anybody in the high risk category is excused but those with high risk family members residing with them, whether they be children or older relatives, have to go to work in an unsafe environment.
    How can this be happening?


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